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Thread: Jedi grind pre-CU and post-CU...............the thoughts of an old Jedi
Zephrin_B wrote:
This is slightly off topic. In fact it's not even about pre-CU vs post-CU. It's about pre-pub 9 vs post-pub 9. People deciding on getting Jedi post-pub 9 had but a simple task (aside from the badges)....pick a combat template and grind, grind, and grind some more (I fit into this category, being a casual player, only having mastered 6 professions at the time). Pre-pub 9 Jedi, of course, had it a bit different. They had to grind the right professions in order to unlock. Since most of them didn't know what these were (or at least the 5th and final to unlock), most of them wound up grinding 20+ professions to unlock (in fact of guild mate of mine ground 22 in 4 months before unlocking). I'm not exactly making an argument for which system is better, but there was one nice thing about knowing a pre-pub 9 Jedi. Since most of them had to grind out just about every profession to unlock, they understood more about the game than most of the playerbase. In fact, I used to think of the guild mate I mentioned as a kind of 'Yoda' since you could ask him a question about just about any aspect of the game or a profession and he would usually know the answer from memory (having been there, done that).
I'm not really going anywhere with this, other than to say that the average pre-pub 9 Jedi was, all in all, a more knowledgeable player (unlike me of course). And in general, they were more helpful as well. Oh well, enough of me. Have a good night.
The truth hurts.
This is the truth though, becuase you NEVER heard a newb Padawan ask, "How do I craft a Lightsaber"?
The old Jedi understood the entire game, unlike the Jedi today who barely know thier own profession, if even that.
/lollerskates 
THEsmuggla wrote:
I have 2 jedi. Yeah 2.
One i have unlocked prepub 9.....was hard to grind and hard to unlock...but really rewarding in the end!
The second i have unlocked 30 days ago and now i already have a FULL TEMP JEDI....so what remains of the jedi profession?
Its power? No not really...jedi are not that powerful believe me
Its coolness? Well, if you need to have a jedi in SWG to feel cool........you have some problems
Its exclusivity? No more......as you can see i grinded a full temp jedi in 30 days...chatting with 8/10 other jedi...smashing lairs without thinking.
Where is the old good SOLO grind on Endor ?
Where is thatunique feelinginspired by the fact that you were fighting in an hostile planet on your own?
Where is that sense of risk that made the grind exciting?
Where is the adrenaline given by a dot appearing on your radar?
No more emotions in being jedi, no more passion.............no more moral reward.
Because back in the days creating a jedi and grinding it out till full was the proof of your victory against the game itself, now its a mere extra pg that requires no effort.
Unlocking my second jedi gave me some emotion......then i realized how easy was to grind and how common was the process.......no more hiding, no more risk...no more EMOTIONS.
I hope SOE will nerf these spin groups so all of you new padawans can experience what being a Jedi really means.
-Comparative appendix
Post CU
Full-template grinding time: 28 days in spin groups
Max EXP gained in one playing day (8hrs): 3.2 Millions (!!)
BH encountered: 0
Pre CU
Full-template grinding time: 3 months and a half
Max EXP gained in one playing day (8hrs): 950k
BH encountered: 7
I dont think this game will be the new KOTOR in the future.
I am not angry for that.
I am angry with the new system because it does not give the right "emotional" reward for being a jedi...
Message Edited by THEsmuggla on 10-16-2005 01:23 PM
RebelArchAngel wrote:
Taborzoid2 wrote:
rhaws wrote:
Taborzoid2 wrote:
I agree with you completely, but there's a whole bunch of people here who have NO CLUE what you are talking about, and they don't care either.
They got thier Jedi (even though it's a sad replacement for what Jedi once was, and again, they'll never know what it was like when Jedi were both rare, AND POWERFUL), and that's all they care about.
I will say this though, there are others who feel exactly the same way you do, and at I guess at least we can say we got there when it actually meant something, and was actually fun to play.
I don't have any problem with all the new Jedi myself, but I do feel sorry for them, becuase they really missed out on a great gameplay system, before it got nerfed into oblivion.
Now it's just a mindless spingroup grind, that takes absolutely ZERO SKILL WHATSOEVER.
The days when Jedi was an actually an accomplishment, are long gone, and the saddest part is, the crybaby carebears beat the Devs into submission, and the Jedi profession right along with it.
R.I.P. JEDI
Becuase imo, there are no "real" Jedi left, just the laughable excuse they call Jedi now.
/mourn
I suppose macro grinding out your holo professions took skill too...... or grenade chucking on baz niches. YAWN
If you'd actually gone through 32 professions, experienced perma-death, saber-TEF, skill loss, multiple BH, sabers that decayed, grinding solo, looking for buffs before you waled out the door, etc. etc.....
Your opinion would mean something to me.
But, since you don't know what you're talking about (becuase it's obvious you are regurgitating stuff that you only heard, or read second hand),
You're opinion is...well...garbage.
No nice way to say it really, but unless you actually did, what some of these people have, you have NO ROOM TO TALK,
Unless the point of your post was only to show your obvious ignorance, and if so, you did an excellent job.
/golfclap
my point proven... taking pixels of a fantasy game way too seriously bro... lighten up
You've proven no point at all sonny.
Just your own lack of intellect, and obvious poor command of the English language.
Keep trying though, you may yet get those synapses firing at a higher rate.
Good luck.
Etagnirps wrote:also precu u had them 2100 buffs, not anymore lol
what planet were you on? Think mine was minimum 28xx
Nah but seriously, bring back preCU, nerf the preCU armor and buff's a bit and we got an awsome game rite there, also maby just maby fix the cm mindpoison a bit, but not needed even if i was on the recivin end of them
Players shouldn't be punished by what was a dev decision. We all know it was a bad one at the that.
THEsmuggla wrote:
I have 2 jedi. Yeah 2.
One i have unlocked prepub 9.....was hard to grind and hard to unlock...but really rewarding in the end!
The second i have unlocked 30 days ago and now i already have a FULL TEMP JEDI....so what remains of the jedi profession?
Its power? No not really...jedi are not that powerful believe me
Its coolness? Well, if you need to have a jedi in SWG to feel cool........you have some problems
Its exclusivity? No more......as you can see i grinded a full temp jedi in 30 days...chatting with 8/10 other jedi...smashing lairs without thinking.
Where is the old good SOLO grind on Endor ?
Where is thatunique feelinginspired by the fact that you were fighting in an hostile planet on your own?
Where is that sense of risk that made the grind exciting?
Where is the adrenaline given by a dot appearing on your radar?
No more emotions in being jedi, no more passion.............no more moral reward.
Because back in the days creating a jedi and grinding it out till full was the proof of your victory against the game itself, now its a mere extra pg that requires no effort.
Unlocking my second jedi gave me some emotion......then i realized how easy was to grind and how common was the process.......no more hiding, no more risk...no more EMOTIONS.
I hope SOE will nerf these spin groups so all of you new padawans can experience what being a Jedi really means.
-Comparative appendix
Post CU
Full-template grinding time: 28 days in spin groups
Max EXP gained in one playing day (8hrs): 3.2 Millions (!!)
BH encountered: 0
Pre CU
Full-template grinding time: 3 months and a half
Max EXP gained in one playing day (8hrs): 950k
BH encountered: 7
I dont think this game will be the new KOTOR in the future.
I am not angry for that.
I am angry with the new system because it does not give the right "emotional" reward for being a jedi...
Message Edited by THEsmuggla on 10-16-2005 01:23 PM
What a waste of space...
Trying to blame half of the Jedi community rather than pushing for our profession...
If you dont see Jedi as friends, then delete your character.
Message Edited by MsNiL on 10-24-2005 10:37 PM
I dont see jedi pushing to ruin what I like about jedi as friends.
MsNiL wrote:
What a waste of space...
Trying to blame half of the Jedi community rather than pushing for our profession...
If you dont see Jedi as friends, then delete your character.
Message Edited by MsNiL on 10-24-2005 10:37 PM
Zekk- wrote:
ok first off i am a jedi, i unlucked 2nd week of CU and i am not full temp, you know why?
School, work, family.
I cannot grind 8 hours, its impossible, getting a good group isnt super easy at times.
Kudos you grinded a fulll temp in 30 days mine take 5 months cause i dont have the time.
cry me a river. I have the same and it took me over a year to grind jedi pre-cu and I never complained. I wish my jedi grind only took 5 months...