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Thread: [Jedi Guide]: Crafting the perfect Lightsaber for Dummies

perfavorebasta
Fri Jun 24, 2005 12:43 pm
#79

it's because you titanium alluminium sucks. On Flurry we have a better one and we can go up to 97% in efficiency that is 95SAC, 48FC.



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perfavorebasta
Fri Jun 24, 2005 12:45 pm
#80

Small question to someone who is about to unlock Jedi and preparing to craft my first Saber. When you create the training saber should the best resources on the server be used or do I need to wait until I have some skill in saber for Experimentation? Someone on my server sells backpacks of each of the resource 2k each resource in the pack that he generates from Vet awards. With 2k each of the resources do I have enough to play around with it or should I look for something else until I have higher skill in sabers?


Saber resources are like a drug. You start using 2k of each and you can't stop ... so you will consume your bank account looking for more and more ...


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Techlepper
Fri Jun 24, 2005 12:47 pm
#81

This rocks. Printed it out to go over when I get home from work

I've done this all before but it was a long time ago. Kudos on an awesome guide!





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Gorthu
Fri Jun 24, 2005 2:59 pm
#82






ManofSteel8830 wrote:


Gorthu Wrote:






You can only get the most points possible by being Master Light Saber. But that does not affect you using your ADK and pearls. Once you make the LS and apply your adk to it...your pearls will be protected from decay in the LS. So, if you want to craft the best LS possible with the best resources, you need to be MLS. If you don't want to be MLS, then you just craft the best LS you can at the skill you have. Remember, you can always get your ADK back later if you make a better LS







So I should go ahead and tune my Pearls foro use in whatever LS I'm using until I'm MLS- remove the pearls from the old, destroy it to get the ADK back and then craft the new with my full alotment of experimentation points? (Is that ten?)


Follow up question:


Is there a certain jedi skill that will help me get the best chance for good or great tunes on these Pearls? They are worth alot and could really help and I want the best chance.What Jedi skills, if any, increase the chance of getting helpful if not great or perfect tunes?





You won't get 10 points of experiementation until you are MLS. I think I got only 7 or 8 at xxx4 ls. You can use your best pearls now in any LS with an ADK and they are protected. And yes, you remove your pearls from the LS BEFORE you destroy it to get your ADK back.


Tuning...as far as i know...there is no specific skill you can do to increase your chance on the tunes. I don't know for sure when the stat's are determined, if it is at time of tune, or when the pearl was spawned. I would guess it is when the pearl is spawned.


Gorthu
Fri Jun 24, 2005 3:09 pm
#83






Iawalein wrote:




Gorthu wrote:





MsNiL wrote:





Panther5150 wrote:


As a professional saber crafter I applaud your guide. I would however update it to include SAC. On bria, I have heard tales of the 94 SAC but the best I have achieved is 95. As a 10 point smith, that leave me one exp point to put into damage which using the best resources on server gets me to 244 damage. Anyway, from all the sabers I have made (all using best resources) that appears to be the best stats you can get without using the village rewards.


Anyway, the bottom line is, it is helpful to newer crafters to identify the SAC costs as they start rather high before experimenting down AND i have found that even when I get FC of 48 I sometimes still have an SAC of 98-100.





Special Action Cost...


If you do a Dervish, which would be the most expensive attack you can do, a max experimented saber vs a no experimented saber will make a 1-2% difference max, which is regenerated in less than a second.


Ofcourse, this might have a minor effect on a MLS, but very minor on non-mls. Check the specials cost and see that its only dervish that costs alot of action/force, and the cases in which Dervish is truly useful is not too common.


Opinion?






Well, if you talking about FORCE COST here, you have no clue what you are talking about. If you are talking about action, same thing. I am MLS and I can tell you, it takes more then a second to regenerate the Action (took 13% of my pool) and FORCE COST which it takes about 55 or so. And if i could regen 55 force in less then a second duringcombat, My force pool would seldom run dry.








He was talking about SAC, and he's talking about a percentage difference. If your attack used 13% of your action, he was stating that there would be a 1-2% difference overall. This would mean that your attack with the lower SAC saber would be something like 11-12% (I assume, rather than 1-2% of 13% which would still be 13%...).

He was stating that this additional 1-2% would be regenerated quickly, not the ENTIRE 13%. A saber will never be able to get low enough on SAC to allow the ENTIRE attack to be regenerated in a few seconds (even the default strike uses more action that can be regenerated between hits).

As for the ADK, remove all crystals then click on the saber to get the radial menu. There should be an option to destroy the saber. When you destroy it, you'll get your ADK back for re-use. If you didn't remove your crystals/pearls, they will be destroyed with the saber!

Message Edited by Iawalein on 06-24-2005 10:55 AM



My misunderstanding on the SAC. I don't worry much about that anyway. When you craft your LS and do experimentation, i'm more focused on lowering the FC as much as possible. FC is more important to me in my play style then SAC. Plus, I find that any saber i craft that I can get the FC down to 48 or 49 on, the SAC is usually at 96. That 48 / 49 is raw saber, no pearls. I end up with FC 9 with my pearls and I notice a big impact to my force pool between a FC 9 and FC 10 saber. This also may be due to my style of play. When I used experiementation to go for damage, I had less then a 10 point spread. I think what I will do is make some LS focusing all my experimentation on damage and see how it compares to LS with focus on reducing FC. With all the changes that are continually being made, I think re-evaluation is in order on a regular basis.

ManofSteel8830
Fri Jun 24, 2005 5:28 pm
#84


So, and finally...is there a special way or place I should be sitting in order to tune mypearls or is it the same no matter what?

Message Edited by ManofSteel8830 on 06-24-2005 05:29 PM

AfeeElandra
Mon Jun 27, 2005 8:29 am
#85


If SAC cost is marginal, I guess the only reason to exp. on efficiency is to get FC down. Would a damage only saber be useful, given that action is the real limiter and its been said that the SAC differential is not noticable?


I use a pre CURB saber and haven't tried making new ones really......





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sniper-666
Fri Jul 01, 2005 5:53 am
#86

Any changes in this guide after publish 19 ?



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Quiet420
Fri Jul 01, 2005 6:20 am
#87

speed is more important than efficiency now....best to craft one of each tho
Valkryn
Wed Jul 06, 2005 5:31 am
#88






Quiet420 wrote:
speed is more important than efficiency now....best to craft one of each tho





Even if I'm MLS?
Anarkya
Wed Jul 06, 2005 5:52 am
#89

For some reason, i am not able to do experimentation...


I tried 10 crafting station and 10 lightsaber crafting and the same result..


I am MLS so I know i am suppose to have it.


Anyone else not able to do experimentation?





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Valkryn
Wed Jul 06, 2005 1:17 pm
#90

I have had that bug on my crafting station. I went and used anothers and his worked for me.
AZFisher
Thu Jul 07, 2005 9:21 am
#91


I have a few questions, if I may.


Does it matter which LS you build? Single, Double, etc? Any advantage to a certain type?


These resource veteran rewards. Are they only for current resources? Or can you obtain a non-current resource and get 10k of it?


Since efficiency is not as important as it used to be, how should I allocate experimentation points now?


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