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Thread: [Discussion] Removal of XP loss upon BH death?
Nuttynoah wrote:well.....this post (thread) certainly has brought a lot of pathetic selfish players out of the woodwork.NO CAPTAIN, I SEE NO SHIPS JUST HARDSHIPS **R.I.P SWG 26/04/2005**
Must be your first time reading the jedi forums?
Jacella wrote:
I want jedi to have an obsticle to finish their templates. I want some jedi to quit because jedi is too hard. I want some jedi to not log in their jedi because they FEAR something. I want jedi to become a shadow if it's former glory and for the wussy wimps that whine endlessly about everything to just give up on their jedi and play one of these other professions that they say id better than jedi. I want the jedi population to decrease so that those of us that have worked darned hard to become good and strong players can regain some level of respect unstead of having every other profession think we are nothing but whiny babies who want an insti-i-win button.
That is the truth!
silversaber wrote:
No one earns the right to kill others enjoyment in this game. No one.
- It kills my enjoyment of the game when I see Jedi everywhere like cockroaches.
- It kills my enjoyment of the game when new Jedi level up in a joke of a system while I had to crawl up like a slug.
- It kills my enjoyment of the game when the timeline that was sold to all of us in the beginning is ripped to shreds so new players can get the "Jedi experience" without any risk whatsoever.
So technically you are griefing me. Stop it.
silversaber wrote:
LOL and you say your NOT a griefer?
You admit that you ENJOYdestroying other players gameplay?
No one earns the right to kill others enjoyment in this game. No one.
Just because others play a Jedi or any other profession thier way and not yours does NOT justify griefing in any way in this game.
They wonder why PvP is so limited in this game.
Look in the mirror for the answer.
Message Edited by silversaber on 09-07-2005 01:15 PM
How is enjoying the role of a profession griefing?
Jedi is a pvp profession, that's not a style, but a fact.
Jedi fighting en masse in starports and gank squads has ruined pvp
Wonder why jedi are as effective as a fishnet condom, look in the mirror yourself
SunSpy wrote:
silversaber wrote:
No one earns the right to kill others enjoyment in this game. No one.
- It kills my enjoyment of the game when I see Jedi everywhere like cockroaches.
- It kills my enjoyment of the game when new Jedi level up in a joke of a system while I had to crawl up like a slug.
- It kills my enjoyment of the game when the timeline that was sold to all of us in the beginning is ripped to shreds so new players can get the "Jedi experience" without any risk whatsoever.
So technically you are griefing me. Stop it.
If playing this game the way the Devs have intended it is griefing you, then you have a really serious problem on your hands.
Its NOT our fault that the Devs have changed the rules so muchon how Jedi are created and leveled in game.
It is NO excuse to destroy the gameplay of other just because you dont like the way the Devs have created the game and set the rules.
We are onlyplaying the game the way the Devs intended. Thats the ONLY way we can play this game.
Iether accept this and learn how to actually enjoy the game with others as it is, or quit because the Devs are NOT going to all of a sudden remove all the Jedi in the game because YOU dont like it.
Thank you for finishing the arguement and supporting the Bounty Hunter perspective. Have a nice day
silversaber wrote:
If playing this game the way the Devs have intended it is griefing you, then you have a really serious problem on your hands. You mean like BH's that enjoy their job?
Its NOT our fault that the Devs have changed the rules so muchon how Jedi are created and leveled in game. You mean like the way BH's do their job?
It is NO excuse to destroy the gameplay of other just because you dont like the way the Devs have created the game and set the rules. You mean like how BH cause xp loss?
We are onlyplaying the game the way the Devs intended. Thats the ONLY way we can play this game. You mean like how BH's play the game and cause xp loss?
Iether accept this and learn how to actually enjoy the game with others as it is, or quit because the Devs are NOT going to all of a sudden remove all the Jedi in the game because YOU dont like it. Like how the Dev's won't get rid of xp loss?
Jacella wrote:
silversaber wrote:
LOL and you say your NOT a griefer?
You admit that you ENJOYdestroying other players gameplay?
No one earns the right to kill others enjoyment in this game. No one.
Just because others play a Jedi or any other profession thier way and not yours does NOT justify griefing in any way in this game.
They wonder why PvP is so limited in this game.
Look in the mirror for the answer.
Message Edited by silversaber on 09-07-200501:15 PM
How is enjoying the role of a profession griefing?
Roleplaying is never a valid excuse for griefing. It wasn't for any other MMORPG, its not for this on.
Jedi is a pvp profession, that's not a style, but a fact.
This would be true IF...IF Jedi was open to PvP 24-7. As it is now, that is only true WHEN a Jedi builds enough visibility. If a Jedi is carefull, he can avoid PvP altogether by no accrueing visibility, and that makes it a PvE profession too.
Jedi fighting en masse in starports and gank squads has ruined pvp
That is ONE of the things that has ruined PvP, but not the only one. If they removed Jedi from PvP altogether, participation in PvP would NO increase because the griefers would just float to the next most effective FOTM profession. If its not Jedi, then it will become another profession altogether.
Wonder why jedi are as effective as a fishnet condom, look in the mirror yourself
LOL you think that one up your self? Shows how little you know after all. Each and every change to the Jedi profession has been done without MY approval. I would have done things entirely differently.
Jacella wrote:
Thank you for finishing the arguement and supporting the Bounty Hunter perspective. Have a nice day
silversaber wrote:
If playing this game the way the Devs have intended it is griefing you, then you have a really serious problem on your hands. You mean like BH's that enjoy their job?
Its NOT our fault that the Devs have changed the rules so muchon how Jedi are created and leveled in game. You mean like the way BH's do their job?
It is NO excuse to destroy the gameplay of other just because you dont like the way the Devs have created the game and set the rules. You mean like how BH cause xp loss?
We are onlyplaying the game the way the Devs intended. Thats the ONLY way we can play this game. You mean like how BH's play the game and cause xp loss?
Iether accept this and learn how to actually enjoy the game with others as it is, or quit because the Devs are NOT going to all of a sudden remove all the Jedi in the game because YOU dont like it. Like how the Dev's won't get rid of xp loss?
lol
Jacella wrote:
Thank you for finishing the arguement and supporting the Bounty Hunter perspective. Have a nice day
silversaber wrote:
If playing this game the way the Devs have intended it is griefing you, then you have a really serious problem on your hands. You mean like BH's that enjoy their job?
Its NOT our fault that the Devs have changed the rules so muchon how Jedi are created and leveled in game. You mean like the way BH's do their job?
It is NO excuse to destroy the gameplay of other just because you dont like the way the Devs have created the game and set the rules. You mean like how BH cause xp loss?
We are onlyplaying the game the way the Devs intended. Thats the ONLY way we can play this game. You mean like how BH's play the game and cause xp loss?
Iether accept this and learn how to actually enjoy the game with others as it is, or quit because the Devs are NOT going to all of a sudden remove all the Jedi in the game because YOU dont like it. Like how the Dev's won't get rid of xp loss?
Fugitron wrote:
There has been alot of comments latelyabout completely removing XP loss from the BH system. This thread is to discuss the "possibility" and PROs and CONs if this did occur. Pleasetry to keep flaming down and to stay on-topic. BHs are welcome to give constructive input.
Some following questions to consider when discussing:
JEDI:
- Do you beleive the BH system currently is effectively stopping the growth of jedi (as intended) ?
- If XP loss was removed would you feel as much "tension" when losing to a BH ?
- If this occured do you beleive the grind would now be "too easy", "just right", or still "too hard" ?
- Does XP loss now (or even when grinding) make you "show off" less ?
BOUNTY HUNTER:
- What is the main motivation for hunting player jedi (please be honest) ?
- Do you beleive its fair that jedi are the only profession in the game that loses something upon (BH) death ?
- If they took away jedi XP loss would you hunt as many jedi as you do now ?
- If XP loss remains do you beleive BHs should be punished for losses or consecutive losses ?
Remember PLEASE try to stay on task and try not to flame eachother - someone will disagree with you - agree to disagree. Maybe if we have enough good input we might be stickied (at least for a bit)
Ok im gunna reply but i want it known that I dont like the XP loss system at all... IMO the only systems that will truely work are Skill Loss, or Blue Glowy.
First off lets get it out right away that Jedi should have a death penalty,so taking it away is out of the question.
