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Thread: Pub 10 spoiler thread *small update on holocrons*

Ameno
Mon Aug 09, 2004 6:16 pm
#79






ThorsAnvil wrote:





Ameno wrote:





ThorsAnvil wrote:

the Dev's said that anyone opening between patch 9 and 10 will be in game as just completing the padawan trials.






Link?




http://starwarsgalaxies.station.sony.com/content.jsp?page=Jedi%20Archives%20Volume%203



So is this a 100% YES that our current Jedi slot will be the character slot that gets the conversion? Or will it be our Main slot? Is it safe to level my Main slot to a full Regular Skills template without worrying about having to drop any skills for Jedi skills after Publish 9?

If you already have an existing Jedi character, your existing JEDI slot will remain the Jedi slot and your main character will remain as it is. So yes, you may continue to level your main any way you wish.


Will my Main slot be FS? Or will I have to redo all the quests if I want him to be Force Enhanced too?

Yes, you're main slot will be force sensitive, but it will be at a Padawan level with all of your original skills intact. You may choose to develop your Main Slot up through Jedi Knight. If you develop this main character up through Jedi Knight, you will have to sacrifice your regular professions. If you want to develop your second slot as your Jedi Knight, you may choose to do all of the Force Sensitive Quests over again thereby unlocking the slot. By completing the Force Sensitive quests you can make your second slot Force Sensitive also. You may even choose to develop your second slot as a full status Jedi knight. You may even choose to develop both of your slots as Jedi if you wish. There are many possible combinations, but because there is a quest based system in place now, your main slot must be the starting point of Jedi character development after Publish 10.



You need to read between the lines, but if your opened, the pre patch 9 people will be able to have 2 jedi. and the post patch 10 will be at padawan. all new jedi's post patch 10 are jedi mains.




its not written in stone, because sony can change at there will of course.






Ah well that sucks, so much for RPing a different personality


Edit: oh ya Thors, thanks, most informitive post in the whole thread , but with the way SOE changes things its like walking across a thin bridge of jello

Message Edited by Ameno on 08-09-2004 09:19 PM



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HemiKeeroc
Mon Aug 09, 2004 8:55 pm
#80

Some of those npcs look like they took real-life scans of Swedish techno stars and dressed them in noob clothes. I mean, what the hell is going on here?



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Tactical_Dave
Mon Aug 09, 2004 10:34 pm
#81


I've re-read the Jedi Archives many times now, and have decided that they don't answer the question of what happens to the 'tweenies' who unlock between Pubs 9 and 10. Since I just unlocked 3 days ago (prof 29), I am interested to figure out the context in these archives. I can't determine if it is talking about those who didn't unlock by Pub9 or those who unlocked before Pub10. It's too vague, and can be taken either way depending on your point of view. As it says in the Archive, "There are many possible combinations, but because there is a quest based system in place now, your main slot must be the starting point of Jedi character development after Publish 10".


The quest-based system won't be in effect until after Pub10, though, right? So does that mean Those who unlock before then will have their second slots be Padawans, and not their main character?



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Ralgur
Tue Aug 10, 2004 12:42 am
#82






Ameno wrote:


rofl, that's funny.


As you can read, he said he did infact "unlock" after pub9, meaning he's in limbo like most of the other people. anyone that didn't grind out professions to unlock and is going to have go to through the new quest is SOL. far as i'm concerned, they didn't want to waste time before or couldn't, why should they be handed what everyone else worked VERY hard for?


Right now for all we know is that, by unlocking we spared ourself 1 step out of the big quest adventure, and are probably falling into another unseen trap. which may or may not be worse than what we just came out of, as for anyone else well they get to start from square one...nothing you can do about it. publish10 IS about the people that got screwed out of their slot and are currently waiting, as well as the people who have waited for these so called "quest to FS".


People that are currently grinding and working for it like me, on my 31st and 32nd professions, we either unlock or we get kicked in the ass with the new quest we don't know, but i know for one thing i'm not stopping my grind until i see my message.


Edit: Oh yeah i almost forgot, the people that did unlock after pub9 between pub10 might have just gotten dropped into another brain killing grind..its not hop and skip off to Jedi. until we/they get info the begining of the FS won't truely matter to us. Only thing i can truely say on it is, that i hope its as hard as grinding all 32 professions......time wise....difficulity wise....whatever.

Message Edited by Ameno on 08-07-2004 09:25 AM





If I see one more moron talk about how much *work* it is to grind professions... I hope the new quest system is only as hard as grinding 32 professions. Supposedly the new quest system will take at least 3 months. I could EASILY grind 32 professions in that time frame or less and I have a full time job.


Buncha f'in whiny ass babies keep spouting off how hard ya had it grinding. Give me a friggin break. I'm so damn sick of hearing this moronic load of horse biscuits.


I bet you don't have a real job do you? One where you spend at least 9 or 10 hours a day doing something just to make a living. When you do, you'll know w/t/f a real grind is really about. Until then, you're just a whiny ass, snot-nose sounding kid who thinks he's special because he plays the game and grinds professions.


Yeah, you're a real trooper. Here's a turd cookie for you.
ThorsAnvil
Tue Aug 10, 2004 12:45 am
#83


blah tripple post.

Message Edited by ThorsAnvil on 08-09-2004 03:47 PM



Understand JEDI EXP (exp based on normalized kills)

Master Elite Prof 3,891,000 exp / 4200 exp = 926 Rancors for Master Elite anything
Master LightSaber 15,280,000 exp / 1000 exp = 15280 Rancors for Master LS
ThorsAnvil
Tue Aug 10, 2004 12:46 am
#84


its too vague because of at the time they wrote those archieves, the concept of "pre 10, post 9" jedi wasnt an issue.


the simple fact after reading the archives, and reading the dev chats. they said, anyone who hasnt opened, will be given credit for there progress.


Because your slot is opened, your a jedi.


And then the last part applies. your main will be at the end of the trials Intact, and you will need to choose your jedi skills.



Understand JEDI EXP (exp based on normalized kills)

Master Elite Prof 3,891,000 exp / 4200 exp = 926 Rancors for Master Elite anything
Master LightSaber 15,280,000 exp / 1000 exp = 15280 Rancors for Master LS
ClopagaO
Tue Aug 10, 2004 3:08 am
#85

Well just to all you people who think we all have no life, this is mine:

I started playing SWG on and off on Bria when the game started. When Infinity lauched (I'm from the UK) I started playing there, where it took me about 7 months to master 30 professions and unlock (one week "too late").

Other than playing the game, I am a full-time student, studying for a PhD, I am in a long term (cohabitting relationship - with a non-gamer), I play semi-professional football (soccer), I represent my county in athletics (both of which require huge amounts of training), I am an amateur film critic (which entails at least 10 movie viewings a week), I also spend lots of time with my off-line friends outside of all these things.

You shouldn't be so judgemental, just because you think something it doesn't always mean that you are right.

Plus I'm female, so stick that in your pipe and smoke it - I read somewhere that women are less likely to unlock or something (by that I'm not implying discrmination from SOE btw )




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Ameno
Tue Aug 10, 2004 3:12 am
#86

There you have it.


And btw, work is a state of mind.


I'm currently "working" on japanese, so i can be a future translator or something else of my choosing, as well as game design.



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I stand between the darkness and the light.
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Seshemw
Tue Aug 10, 2004 3:25 am
#87

Perhaps the person above would prefer a synonym. Use 'effort'. Those of us who have put in the effort, etc, in place of 'work'. Because however easy the folks who think those who haven't unlocked make 32 professions out to be, there IS significant effort, and we've seen dev claims that that effort will be recognized.

Sophistry about the exact word used when the intent behind the word is extremely clear is pretty silly, but have your fun if you want.



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Ameno
Tue Aug 10, 2004 3:33 am
#88

Well.. whatever works for you, anyways i'm done on this post. someone wake me up when they put in the new goodies.



Name:Tatsu
Master of Combat and the ways of the Force.
-Enlightened 8/12/04-
I am grey. I stand between the candle and the star.
I stand between the darkness and the light.
___________________________________________
?ire rains upon those who stand before me..

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stanbize
Tue Aug 10, 2004 3:58 am
#89

have anyone given any thoughts to Apprentice points? if hologrinding stops, it would be 10 times harder to get apprentice points and it will not be a surprise to see more spammers yelling for their purchase at starports.
DarthOren
Tue Aug 10, 2004 4:52 am
#90






Seshemw wrote:
You should take a look at the text strings ripped from the game files on swgexplorer. It looks like several of the quests are of the nature of 'Great, you helped us by doing this one time. We need you to do it 100 times, get cracking'. Possibly with a limit of one iteration per day (or game day) and possibly with the limitation that only ONE of these quests can be active at a time (so no doing repeat 95 of quest#1, and doing part of quest#2 while waiting for repeat 96).





If there's a timer, many players will leave the game, including probably me.
MutantSquirrel
Tue Aug 10, 2004 5:36 am
#91






murphy7 wrote:


Re: comments


You didn't work for anything, fellow. You were sitting in front of your computer playing a game. I understand what you are getting at: that your time investment is important to you. But to pass off your choices in time management as the worthier path, than that of the person who only has 5-8 hours a week to play a computer game must be too lazy to merit a shot at a Jedi is almost patently ludicrous enough to keep from being insulting.







You can learn in Physics 101 that Workequals Forcemultiplied bydistance. I assure you, I have pushed my keys on my keyboard and button on my mouse a helluva lot more than the average SWG gamer in my pursuit of my jedi. So, yes, fellow ... I DID work for it ... if you want to get so technical.


It's not that you're "too lazy to merit a shot at a Jedi" ... you just don't want it bad enough to put the time into it. If you only have 5-8 hours a week to play ... put those into pursuing a jedi. Sure you won't be a jedi until 2006, but how bad do you want it? Oh, I see, having your fun in the game now is more important than your fun in the end. Well enjoy your fun now, but I don't want to hear you complaining when I'm having my fun kickin' your ass and your 19 buddies' in your group.





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