Jedi Archive

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Ilias_Lightstar wrote:
Think about others who simply dont want or dont have the time or the luxury to grind through 30+ professionsin order to unlock, yet they WANT to become a jedi so bad."

Sorry but they still won't want or won't have the time or luxury to obtain a Jedi. Mere want won't give people a Jedi, that's not what the new system is for.

There will still be hard work and long hours that need to be put into SWG to obtain a Jedi. This isn't the let's hand everyone a Jedi char it's a revamp to make obtaining Jedi "more fun".

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Ameno wrote:

As you can read, he said he did infact "unlock" after pub9, meaning he's in limbo like most of the other people. anyone that didn't grind out professions to unlock and is going to have go to through the new quest is SOL. far as i'm concerned, they didn't want to waste time before or couldn't, why should they be handed what everyone else worked VERY hard for?

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People that are currently grinding and working for it like me, on my 31st and 32nd professions, we either unlock or we get kicked in the ass with the new quest we don't know, but i know for one thing i'm not stopping my grind until i see my message.

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And i assume by your regged date that you are just now new to the game right?

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Re: comments

You didn't work for anything, fellow. You were sitting in front of your computer playing a game. I understand what you are getting at: that your time investment is important to you. But to pass off your choices in time management as the worthier path, than that of the person who only has 5-8 hours a week to play a computer game must be too lazy to merit a shot at a Jedi is almost patently ludicrous enough to keep from being insulting.

Re: comments

Not necessarily. I was lucky enough to get into the beginning of Beta 3 and have the time to test and enjoy it up and almost through the closing of it. I picked the game up againin June, feeling optimistic based on following the forums off and on since Beta 3,using thefree fourteen days, and on relogging into the forums after registering my copy of SWG at the end of that period. Strangely, it wasn' t until revisiting the forums after regging that my registration date changed. A good number of my friends came back to this game largely because of the free-fourteen day trial and the changes they've heard about on the forums or the finally impending JTL expansion. Their registration dates reflect very little of their experience with the game, so your assumption has fair potential for being false.

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oldmanpanda wrote:

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Seshemw wrote:
You should take a look at the text strings ripped from the game files on swgexplorer. It looks like several of the quests are of the nature of 'Great, you helped us by doing this one time. We need you to do it 100 times, get cracking'. Possibly with a limit of one iteration per day (or game day) and possibly with the limitation that only ONE of these quests can be active at a time (so no doing repeat 95 of quest#1, and doing part of quest#2 while waiting for repeat 96).

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eh...the word DEVELOPMENT comes to mind

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Development comes to mind?? I fail to see how that word is applicable to what appears (in one case) to be:
'here's a waypoint, please investigate for hostiles, and wipe them out if they're there'
'thank you for defeating the hostiles'
'I'm sorry, but you have to repeat this quest 99 more times before I will reward you'

That's under mindless repetition.

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Ameno wrote:

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ThorsAnvil wrote:

the Dev's said that anyone opening between patch 9 and 10 will be in game as just completing the padawan trials.

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Link?

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http://starwarsgalaxies.station.sony.com/content.jsp?page=Jedi%20Archives%20Volume%203

So is this a 100% YES that our current Jedi slot will be the character slot that gets the conversion? Or will it be our Main slot? Is it safe to level my Main slot to a full Regular Skills template without worrying about having to drop any skills for Jedi skills after Publish 9?

If you already have an existing Jedi character, your existing JEDI slot will remain the Jedi slot and your main character will remain as it is. So yes, you may continue to level your main any way you wish.

Will my Main slot be FS? Or will I have to redo all the quests if I want him to be Force Enhanced too?

Yes, you're main slot will be force sensitive, but it will be at a Padawan level with all of your original skills intact. You may choose to develop your Main Slot up through Jedi Knight. If you develop this main character up through Jedi Knight, you will have to sacrifice your regular professions. If you want to develop your second slot as your Jedi Knight, you may choose to do all of the Force Sensitive Quests over again thereby unlocking the slot. By completing the Force Sensitive quests you can make your second slot Force Sensitive also. You may even choose to develop your second slot as a full status Jedi knight. You may even choose to develop both of your slots as Jedi if you wish. There are many possible combinations, but because there is a quest based system in place now, your main slot must be the starting point of Jedi character development after Publish 10.

You should take a look at the text strings ripped from the game files on swgexplorer. It looks like several of the quests are of the nature of 'Great, you helped us by doing this one time. We need you to do it 100 times, get cracking'. Possibly with a limit of one iteration per day (or game day) and possibly with the limitation that only ONE of these quests can be active at a time (so no doing repeat 95 of quest#1, and doing part of quest#2 while waiting for repeat 96).

Personally I think the most informative piece of information for us post-9-pre-10-ers is the actuall message that we obtain when we unlock:

"You begin to feel attuned to the force. Your Force Sensitive abilities will be unlocked after Publish 10"

Now note that this says "abilities" - under the new unlock method - this would place us at exactly the same point as a player who unlocks using the new route. i.e. Jedi Initiate - exactly the same as if a current jedi dropped all their jedi skills (I think)

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Ralgur wrote:

If I see one more moron talk about how much *work* it is to grind professions... I hope the new quest system is only as hard as grinding 32 professions. Supposedly the new quest system will take at least 3 months. I could EASILY grind 32 professions in that time frame or less and I have a full time job.

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I'm afraid I'm not that good, LOL Took me a freakin' year to master Tailor. (Though I did have holocrons to distract me for awhile, so mostly my fault. Did get a little progress though. 6 professions, 3 of which were elite.) But I definitely see where you're coming from. I hate it when people refer to the game as "work". I remember back in beta days where "work" was used to justify selling your character or items on ebay.

People, it'sa freakin' video game. At the same time it is a virtual world, meaning, like in the real world, you have to learn to make your own fun. If a video game is "work" to you, then go find something else to do and leave us kiddies playing "pretend" alone.

There's plenty of things to do and enjoy in-game. Why, only a week ago I got this weird idea to distribute kitchen masters hats to everybody who passed by me. I seem to see them a lot every time the guild goes PvPing now. LOL

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murphy7 wrote:

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Ameno wrote:

As you can read, he said he did infact "unlock" after pub9, meaning he's in limbo like most of the other people. anyone that didn't grind out professions to unlock and is going to have go to through the new quest is SOL. far as i'm concerned, they didn't want to waste time before or couldn't, why should they be handed what everyone else worked VERY hard for?

...

People that are currently grinding and working for it like me, on my 31st and 32nd professions, we either unlock or we get kicked in the ass with the new quest we don't know, but i know for one thing i'm not stopping my grind until i see my message.

...

And i assume by your regged date that you are just now new to the game right?

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Re: comments

You didn't work for anything, fellow. You were sitting in front of your computer playing a game. I understand what you are getting at: that your time investment is important to you. But to pass off your choices in time management as the worthier path, than that of the person who only has 5-8 hours a week to play a computer game must be too lazy to merit a shot at a Jedi is almost patently ludicrous enough to keep from being insulting.

Re: comments

Not necessarily. I was lucky enough to get into the beginning of Beta 3 and have the time to test and enjoy it up and almost through the closing of it. I picked the game up againin June, feeling optimistic based on following the forums off and on since Beta 3,using thefree fourteen days, and on relogging into the forums after registering my copy of SWG at the end of that period. Strangely, it wasn' t until revisiting the forums after regging that my registration date changed. A good number of my friends came back to this game largely because of the free-fourteen day trial and the changes they've heard about on the forums or the finally impending JTL expansion. Their registration dates reflect very little of their experience with the game, so your assumption has fair potential for being false.

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Message Edited by Ameno on 08-09-2004 09:15 PM

Message Edited by Ameno on 08-09-2004 09:22 PM