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Thread: *** The Great Dark Force Wielder Template: MPowers/MEnhancer/Healer 4040 (Lord Vartonis Update)

SpaceLana
Sat Jun 18, 2005 11:41 pm
#79
After looking at the many possibilities in setting up my jedi, I heard somebody in one of my hunting groups mention this template. I studied it for quite awhile and figured out that I wasnt the type of person that liked doing pvp solo. Most of the time Im with my guildmates when any pvp is happening. The pursuit of personal glory really doesnt come into play when Im with a group. I would rather support my group with my abilities, but not leave myself to be dominated by BHs. This template is exaclty what I was looking for. Im so very glad you posted this as it shows me what my chosen template will produce. Thanks.
SWGHottie
Sun Jun 19, 2005 8:26 am
#80




SpaceLana wrote:

After looking at the many possibilities in setting up my jedi, I heard somebody in one of my hunting groups mention this template. I studied it for quite awhile and figured out that I wasnt the type of person that liked doing pvp solo. Most of the time Im with my guildmates when any pvp is happening. The pursuit of personal glory really doesnt come into play when Im with a group. I would rather support my group with my abilities, but not leave myself to be dominated by BHs. This template is exaclty what I was looking for. Im so very glad you posted this as it shows me what my chosen template will produce. Thanks.





I am really glad i could be of help. Did you change to this template after reading this, or did you respec to this template and then discovered this post that told you more about it? If you change to it, make sure you understand all the limitations forst. Read my original post and all the replies and clickys provided in the thread. It is a LOT of fun, and it seems like you have a playstyle similar to mine that is compatible with this. I just want to make sure you understand the current problems with the template before making it your final choice.





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Awik
Sun Jun 19, 2005 9:13 am
#81


I started out as MPowers/MDefender/4004Enhancer when CURB went live,12hrs later respecto MP/ME/4040...haven't dropped it since. First day of PvPing with it, I've stasis 6 dark jedi and /strut, then FR3 away. They had no idea what happened, lol. One of them even respec about half an hour later, to this template. I'm curious how this template will work against each other when the FRS goes live. If the bonus stays the same, dark jedi will benefit more from Powers, while the light jedi with this template (me will benefit more from Enhancer and Healing.


Anyways, good stuff on this post. There are things I do from your post and some few stuff I do myself, like Cloaking/FR3 and just heal and transfer force to ur group for kicks.

Message Edited by Awik on 06-19-2005 11:14 AM



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Baracous
Sun Jun 19, 2005 9:58 am
#82

First of all excellent post!!! 5 *'s for you!


One thing I have yet to see mentioned as a bad/ugly for master powers is the fact that more than 1 MP in a group is about useless. There is a MP in our Guild that loves powers, and he fits in well with the others in our group, but if you have 2, then half of their offense is "shared". Imagine the outrage if only 1 MLS could dervish at a time.... well choke is not stackable even with seperate MPs landing them. This at least "seems" to be the way it *should* be since choking can only do so much harm over time, but it hurts MP templates in a group.


Quick question, are you per chance a Wanderhome character? If so, we need to talk.





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SpaceLana
Sun Jun 19, 2005 1:30 pm
#83
Actually Im a pretty new jedi and decided to work my way toward this template about a week ago. I used a character builderas well asroamed the Jedi and BH forums to check out my possible advantatges and disadvantages. This post caught my eye yesterday and has greatly increased my understanding of my already chosen template. As of me unlocking 2 weeks ago, Im a :


Enhancer 3-0-0-0

Powers 0-0-0-2

Healer 3-0-0-0


With Master Rifleman and Novice BH. I want to keep my CL up above 60 so Im dropping my regular skills in such a way that I can maintain a high CL level and still defend against BHs till I can get Cloak/FR2. As for the respec, Ill be keeping that option indefinitly. Even if it does pop up quitea lot.
hackspaz
Sun Jun 19, 2005 1:40 pm
#84
The original post is excellent.

I wish that Master Powers was able to do the same damage as MLS so that you could, if you wished, exchange one for the other.

The only problem then, as I see it, is a practical disadvantage in that LS's need to be crafted and those precious pearls earned, looted or bought.

Perhaps Master Powers too should - if they were brought up to the speed, power and force cost of MLS - be dependent on pearls or crystals somehow (perhaps they might have to wear them in a belt or a necklace or somesuch).



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AfeeElandra
Mon Jun 20, 2005 1:03 am
#85




Grozurr wrote:

first off, i'm a rebel, and when i get jedi (not there yet but starting to examine temps) i have to say this looks like the kind of temp i might take. And who says only dark jedi can use this sort of thing


onward...


i've been looking at the master powers side of thing but can't really for the life of me figure out the big advantage of full powers over partial. The temps i'm looking at mainly are master rifleman/menhancer, powers 0400 (for cloak) or this sort of temp, MP/ME/Healer-4-something. What i'm wanting to know is what would be the big reason to go to master powers? from what i've looked at ME seems to be the cooler of the two, with the self-rez ability, the force drain, meditate and channel. I know i can just imagine the shock on someone's face when i all of the sudden get up after being killed, cloak, run off and meditate for awhile while i heal up and such.


so my question is this: what would be the big motivation to pick up master powers in place of my rifle (or carbines might be an option, who knows)? i can only think of too-cool situations where i cloak, drop to the ground, let off a sniper shot and cloak again before anyone gets to me.



Thanks


Grozzer Agoutt


Kauri







You lose xp from using the MEnh ability (50k apparently).

If all you want is cloak then that does stand alone. If you want lightning, then the accuracy boosts at master help a lot, though if you keep rilfe the general ranged bonuses do stack. ATM the other abilities are only partly usable. In group play MPow is great, I think every group can benefit from a MPow/MEnh template. Pub 19 will decide it for me though - MPow or MLS.


I suppose that if you keep rifle then you will want heal 3000, powers 0400- it would work.



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-Fade-
Mon Jun 20, 2005 1:05 am
#86

Great guide


It definitely rocks in group settings...but I had a lot of trouble trying to solo even non-jedi (with healings abilities).






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Eeloominath
Mon Jun 20, 2005 4:03 am
#87
Thanks for the rather extensive article. This template is exactly what i had in mind for my char, and i believe, my choice wasn't so wrong after all. It is definitely non-FOTM (which i like) and fits well with groups. (But please, next time try to use the Return-Key more often, so the large sections become readable *G*)
Epak
Mon Jun 20, 2005 1:57 pm
#88
what's the "best" order to grind this template from padawan? I'm group grinding, and was thinking:

3000 healer
0400 powers
0002 enhancer
3002 enhancer
4000 healer
4004 enhancer
master enhancer
master powers
4040 healer




kotea/wave

AfeeElandra
Tue Jun 21, 2005 2:36 am
#89

Personally, I would get to MLS and respec to MPowers......







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KessRith
Wed Jun 22, 2005 2:21 am
#90

great post, i went Mpowers from day 1 of the CU and never looked back. had a lot of people telling me that you "need sabers" but powers is just too much fun.


doesnt stop me wanting a banes heart though



oh and u gave away our battle tactics to everyone LOL can people not read this post please so u know how to beat us now





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AfeeElandra
Wed Jun 22, 2005 2:34 am
#91

Checking Pub 19 notes... looks like this temp. will be even better.


I hope FA2 is a sustainable and useful tool to give us 6000 armour rating.


I will be interested to see how sap is changed, if its not worth it now where to spend the points?





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