Jedi Archive

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Faelazao wrote:

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Ekic wrote:

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SageEidolon wrote:

Thank you for taking the time to post this.

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Yes, thanks.

What a joke pearls are atm

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I agree. Thank you for taking what must have been a large amount of your personal time to give us more data on pearl tuning. I don't understand why some jedi feel the need to attack you for it. I honestly don't understand.

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This guy takes the time to post hard data and he gets attacked and criticized. I don't get it?

Thanks for the data. It's depressing, but at least it supports what I have been able to tune good pearls to. I have one pearl in my saber, a pre-cu prem that post-cu is a 110, -0.29, -9... Almost perfect. My next best is a post-cu good crystal that tuned to 80/-0.19/-4. The other 2 are 52/55 dmg, -4. Yep, my saber sucks and I don't see it getting better anytime soon.

Message Edited by SumaTrig on 10-26-2005 10:20 AM

Trog Wrote;

by the % of "good tunes" you should have had 100 pearls first.... then if you got 0 to tune for 100-120 with -5 to -9 you could have shown the devs their %'s are clearly not working.... because we have been told that you do have a % chance to get a perfect tune.... and with a "good" that should still be more than 1%

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Statistically speaking there is not a great deal of difference when tuning 92 vs 100, and we cannot infer that tuning 100 crystals will give us 100% of all possible results. The chances of gettinga single120 damage pearl from a lot of 100 tunes hovers around0.003% (and if I did my math correctly, that means 1 pearl in every 3000 will tune at 120 damage). Getting a perfect tune is about as likely as winning Powerball. The good news is that most people can build a saber in the mid 500 tolow 600 damage range, but only after looting hundreds of crytals and pearls. The bad news is that damage may be decent while the speed and and FC are not. For a casual gamer, getting a good saber will require a great deal of luck.

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Bloodfin_Architect wrote:

Statistically speaking there is not a great deal of difference when tuning 92 vs 100, and we cannot infer that tuning 100 crystals will give us 100% of all possible results. The chances of gettinga single120 damage pearl from a lot of 100 tunes hovers around0.003% (and if I did my math correctly, that means 1 pearl in every 3000 will tune at 120 damage). Getting a perfect tune is about as likely as winning Powerball. The good news is that most people can build a saber in the mid 500 tolow 600 damage range, but only after looting hundreds of crytals and pearls. The bad news is that damage may be decent while the speed and and FC are not. For a casual gamer, getting a good saber will require a great deal of luck.

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you know, does anyone notice the amount of pearls/crystals people are tuning? I mean how long does it take you to get and tune 98 - 300 of them. If any jedi is getting 300 crystals in a months time, that is too many and because of that, I see why the tuning is so bad. If one could get 300 crystals in a months time (i'm assuming here) then why should we be able to tune them near perfect.

Also, there is the fact that the devs took out the flawless and premi's and just because they did, don't mean they adjusted the tuning ratio's. I don't recall them ever saying that they will never put flawless or premi's back in the game. If they don't then they need to adjust the good ones, if they do then as bad as I dont' want to say it, we must wait and hope to get lucky with the good tunes.

I haven't had a good tune in a long time. 3 hours in the graveyard solo, I get about 6 pearls mostly because I need to regen force. In a group, I know I could rack them up. So what I"m saying is that if there are gonna be loads of crates to kill and loads of pearls to loot, we should expect them to tune up to 100 damage maybe 1% of the time. If we want better tune rates on good pearls, then the drop rate will have to go down to something close to how legendary or exceptionalweapons dropped in the old days. So if a good was able to tune to 100+ damage and up to -9 FC like 10% of the time, then the drop rate of them should be like 1 in every 15 - 20 krayts killed, maybe more.

The devs are trying to get rid of a lot of jedi who can't take the current pressure, they don't want to give them 100+ damage pearls to encourage more people to become jedi.

What is sad is that I have several backpacks of unused pearls that are much better than these.

I am a pre-cu jedi and I am disgusted by what they did to the pearls/tunes. My saber is only 678 (all -9 w/varying damage) and I feel that my saber is a bit inadequate for the number of tunes i have made. I would have tossed all 200 tunes into the garbage bags. We are in a sad state of affairs.

Nice post, I have officially lost all hope...lol....so I need to go farm over 100 FAIR crystals to have high odds of getting at least 4 in the 80's - 90's range?

HardwiredXMan Wrote:

you know, does anyone notice the amount of pearls/crystals people are tuning? I mean how long does it take you to get and tune 98 - 300 of them. If any jedi is getting 300 crystals in a months time, that is too many and because of that, I see why the tuning is so bad.

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The tunes used in my test were done by a number of people, including myself. Those 300+ tunes came from roughly a dozen tuners. I cannot tell you how long it took the OP to gather 98 pearls. If you play everyday and manage to loot just 3 pearls or crystals that's still 90 in one month. Out of those 90, you might average one decent tune as the OP did or get nothing useful. Many people I know seem to have terrible luck with tunes. Again, I can't tell you the experience of other players and only my own. More often than not, I can spend the same 3 hours you did hunting krayts and get absolutely zero (0) pearls. In fact, having hunted somewhere around 100 krayts in groups and solo, I've managed to get a pearl only twice and neither tunedabove 60 damage. I estimate that over 4 months, I've personally harvested around 500 crystals (and 2 pearls). Out of all those tunes, my best is 97 -3FC -0.03 speed. Many would not call that a good tune. I don't have a single pearl in my saber.

I disagree that drop rates need to be even tighter because of the abundance of drops. Every piece of evidence suggest, if anything, that the drop rates should be much higher. You yourself state you haven't had a good tune in a long time. To me, running around for hours killing the same thing over and over agian to gather a few crystals and pray that they will tune well is just another form of boring, unproductive grinding that keeps people from exploring other aspects of the game.

And I am going to repeat this point until I am blue in the face, because no one outside of the Bria server, including the devs, seems to get the point:

RANDOM KRAYTS ARE NOT SPAWNING ON BRIA...AT ALL.

Are we getting through yet?

Message Edited by Iakimo on 10-27-2005 01:25 AM

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OSWC wrote:
I seriously think these testing results and the ones done by others should be put in the Devs face because these are hard facts that pearls need to be fixed. This is not a whine post this is just for posting results please don't flame my hard work there are plenty of other posts to flame away on. I am just providing data.

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OSWC wrote:

Not Good.

Out of 92 Pearls I got one I could use and it isn't great. 99 -8 -.16 WOW. Side note everyone of these were personally farmed by myself I didn't buy one of these so this represents alot of time hunting Krayts only those of you that know how long it takes to get 92 pearls really knows what I am talking about. Anyway of the 200+ pearls I have tuned the 4 I use are 2 crystals and 2 pearls 109 -5(crystal), (99 -8 replaced a 87 -9), 97 -8(crystal) and 88 -9. So for all the pre cu jedi that say oh you just have to go out and tune a lot of pearls I would venture to say after you tuned over 200 pearls that your stats look a LOT better than mine. I unlocked pre-cu just because I didn't know what the cu was going to bring and in fact was just happy playing without Jedi but I am competitive person and don't like getting slapped around. So I want my Jedi to atleast compete with a BH or another Jedi and with these pearls it just isn't happening. Oh well doesn't look like SOE is going to fix it anytime soon so I guess I will just have to suck it up or play my alt.

Dmg/FPC I decided not to post speed but will include in the averages.

88 -3

54 -3

87 -2

34 -2

50 -2

33 -4

30 -3

30 -4

57 -6

64 -2

56 -2

36 -6

63 -3

41 -6

35 -6

34 -2

45 -4

36 -4

40 -3

43 -3

56 -4

78 -2

40 -3

58 -2

42 -5

46 -4

53 -2

72 -5

38 -7

47 -7

37 -9

42 -4

41 -5

89 -3

56 -5

34 -3

35 -3

40 -3

37 -3

49 -3

73 -3

53 -6

28 -2

58 -8

29 -6

80 -2

58 -2

65 -3

54 -2

40 -3

47 -4

81 -5

55 -6

68 -6

50 -3

49 -3

63 -4

82 -3

34 -3

32 -8

54 -4

44 -2

37 -5

35 -6

65 -5

47 -5

70 -6

46 -3

41 -2

66 -3

38 -8

59 -3

34 -3

51 -3

39 -4

30 -3

57 -2

23 -2

21 -2

53 -3

22 -8

33 -3

47 -3

62 -6

45 -5

33 -2

36 -3

44 -4

55 -3

99 -8

Averages

Dmg/FPC/Speed

49.02/-3.929/-.14043

SOE FTW!

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