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Thread: Premium Pearls Clarification from Stratics HoC (Sept 21st)

Slash_DPC
Tue Sep 27, 2005 11:27 pm
#66

I'm putting my money on retune /sigh





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mave25
Wed Sep 28, 2005 12:22 am
#67






Baciacca wrote:





MasterGettingOnTerms wrote:
so.. r we losing them or not ?





NO we are not losing them.





Are you positive about that, the key word interim sort of tells me that, we can keep them until now, then lose them when the "new premiums" come out to put everyone in the same spot.



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TrogdorrtheBurninator
Wed Sep 28, 2005 12:44 am
#68


always willing to lend a helping idea...


lets think about possibilities SOE has.


1) keep current tuned crystals/pearls as is. ---- doing this will make the stats on sabers drasitcally change once a new system is implemented. we saw this with the CU with looted items. it will happen to sabers as well if they impliment a change.


2) un tune and re implement the drops. ----- the pearls that we destroyed due to bad tunes will still be gone and only those people that kept their tuned crystals/pearls regardless of post tune will have a benifit here... seems most fair since the pack rats used their storage space as either a display or a just in case. ---- this route seems most likely


3) create a spawn with the level required to drop these loots again. I.E. lvl 300 - 500 krayts. ------ this is stupid but more likely than option 1. the people hunting will have to have a full group of lvl 80's and then fight for the pearl. look forward to "lotto groups" on tat. and then also spawn camping/loot stealing


4) continue with option 2 but generate moreSPAWN POINTS other than the dune sea and the grave yard. so after the pearls/crystals are un tuned, the 2 points of spawn are not over camped.



With all of these options the devs know that putting the premiums back in will cause problems on tatooine with server stability.. the amount of jedi on all servers has more than tripled since the village launch, and krayts were camped to hell pre village too. the change though neccasarry is a difficult one and requires alot more thought than just how it will affect your weapon... im sure there are more options out there, but these are some of the most obvious ideas and very generalized


Edit* oh yea... to simplify interim a bit further.... interim = meantime "in the meantime" end quote

Message Edited by TrogdorrtheBurninator on 09-27-2005 01:01 PM



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Wed Sep 28, 2005 12:54 am
#69






Baciacca wrote:

Clarification to what is exactly ment by the following statement fromthe Stratics Chat logs found here: Click!






Premium Pearls Currently, Premium Pearls do not drop. We will bring them back into the game once we figure out a favorable implementation of these special items; there is not specific ETA for this change and all players that have the old Premium Pearls will get to keep them in the interim.






"interim" refers to the time between "now" and "when premium pearls return".





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jedibd
Wed Sep 28, 2005 5:04 am
#70




So you aren't saying they are gonna take the pearls out of my saber.. Good, we agree. If they nerf me, they nerf you. Then give us both a chance to better our sabers. They just might give us incentive to replace what we have ie; lower SAC, higher dmg etc. Waited and hoped for what? tell me please.






Actually what i meant was they may not take them uout but you may have to in orderfor your saber to work.Retune them then replace them.


You are much more optomistic thanmyself because frankly I dont trust SOE as far as i can chuck the Death Star.


Waited and hoped......I was refering to the CU and how it was/is a sham.It was suppoese to be an upgrade and players were asked for input.The whole thing was thrown out the window and replaced with the crap we have now.Lies were told and some people sat by "like sheep" and actually beleived that SOE had their best interest in mind.They said "well give them time" .So exactly how long do you wait and how many lies do you endure before you stand up and say "stop the insanity!!"


Again nothing SOE has done makes me beleive they will do the right thing.Even if they do its only a step in the right direction as they have 2 years worth of bungling to make up for.CustomerRelations is a great example of this issue.They think because Tiggs or TH come forward and say "we are checking into it" that everything is ok and it condones weeks of no communication about bugs that have been around forever and have a negative effect on paying customers game play.


Trust takes time and it seems that SOE doesnt have the time to make me trust them.






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jedibd
Wed Sep 28, 2005 6:06 am
#71

I would agree.


The thing that really chaps me is that they use vague double speak and there are still some people who don't see through it.They leave things so open for interpretation its just ridiculous.Then of course they leave you hanging and it just creates all types of issues.





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SalomonXsjado
Wed Sep 28, 2005 6:08 am
#72

Its definately hard to trust SOE will come through on this one, especially for those that have busted their ass to get a near perfect saber. To be honest it seems like it would be a motivation of trying to milk us jedi for subscriptions in any way they can.


I.E. making our near perfect tunes < that of what new premiums would tune....or making us retune our current pearls / crystals which in the end is just as bad unless they have an incredible chance to tune perfect.


So what do we have to look forward to when premiums come back? Months and months of seeking pearls to make a decent saber to pvp with? Seems all SOE is motivated by is money...better hope they dont screw up on this one.I can see a lot of vet jedi accounts canceled depending on how hard it is to aquire a premium pearl and to geta near perfect / perfect tune.


Its nice to level the playing field but I believe that the vets of the profession deserve the high ground on this one....




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Kev0r
Wed Sep 28, 2005 6:09 am
#73

I'm involved in project management for the UK Govt. You never make a positive statement in such a high visibility position; promise one thing, then are forced to deliver another....and you end up in a world of sh*t. Even if you make the right decision.


If they plan to let us keep the premiums we have, and tell us we can, then the post CU guys would be in uproar. Far better to not really tell us anything positive and just wait unti, the change happens.





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JediBaldy
Wed Sep 28, 2005 6:40 am
#74






SalomonXsjado wrote:

Its definately hard to trust SOE will come through on this one, especially for those that have busted their ass to get a near perfect saber. To be honest it seems like it would be a motivation of trying to milk us jedi for subscriptions in any way they can.


I.E. making our near perfect tunes < that of what new premiums would tune....or making us retune our current pearls / crystals which in the end is just as bad unless they have an incredible chance to tune perfect.


So what do we have to look forward to when premiums come back? Months and months of seeking pearls to make a decent saber to pvp with? Seems all SOE is motivated by is money...better hope they dont screw up on this one.I can see a lot of vet jedi accounts canceled depending on how hard it is to aquire a premium pearl and to geta near perfect / perfect tune.


Its nice to level the playing field but I believe that the vets of the profession deserve the high ground on this one....





This is how it should be - allow the pre CU Jedi to keep their pearls but before the FRS comes out, get the new premiums in game. The acquisition of these pearls should not be dependent on the current power of your saber - that would not be fair. It should be difficult but something that both pre and post CU Jedi can get. The results of the new tunes still need to be random to encourage diversity but 4 of these pearls need to be far better than 4 120 / -9 pearls. Everyone has a choice to stick with your current setup or upgrade. For those serious about the FRS, everyone will choose to upgrade to get the chance of a perfect weapon. By doing this we resolve the 2 main issues - saber damage and balance. You get out what you put in. Currently comparing pre to post CU pearl harvesting is like comparing apples to oranges. They need to be questable objects to give some meaning - critter drops is not the way. Just like Ahazi, Farstar also appears to be devoid of life around the Krayt POI - I have better luck hunting for crystals from FS npcs on dantooine TBH.


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SalomonXsjado
Wed Sep 28, 2005 6:57 am
#75

Im not even a vet jedi I unlocked just before the CU maybe a week or so since they launched it early....to be honest I have no sympathy for the jedi crying about having a crappy saber. My jedi grind was that of passion, I wanted to compete in the FRS, I wanted toplay a template that is fun and not the FOTM...etc.


I did my homework and hunted krayts during the boom, stored up my premiums for when I unlocked. For that I have a decent saber to pvp with today, its not perfect but hey I do well with it. There is no reason why people couldnt have done the same. The amount of krayts that were spawning at that time was kinda unreal, and you could get a pearl almost 1/5 loots.


None the less they deserve a chance to still make a good saber just like any other combat class has a chance to get a high end weapon. Problem is that our saber is pretty much our only "weapon" and if they screw up our pearls then maybe master powers will be FOTM soon...


Im not trying to flame, but the fact that there are two groups of jedi is what is kinda causeing an uproar here. One end you got the pre curb that have near perfect sabers with some post curb that planned for the future. Then thereare the ones that unlocked recently because of all that double xp and such, ones that are quiting because they have no way of getting a decent saber. Its almost like a catch 22 on what the devs should do, I think the stats should stay the same so they dont have to screw with all the pre expansion pearls / crystals. Improving the tuning chances for a perfect tune on premiums couldnt hurt, especially if they are super rare drops or quest items.






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majorslappy
Wed Sep 28, 2005 1:51 pm
#76


Why do BHs get loot drops for ranged weapon components that allow adding as much as 190 points of damage to a ranged weapon and in some cases multiple looted components can be used to up the damage of the weapon to well over 1000 max damage?


Then ask yourself, "Why are premium pearls not dropping and why do jedi have to tunepearls/crystals for a random result when BHs loot weapon components with 170-190 max damage additions?"



What is the purpose of this imbalance?




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Morwen
Wed Sep 28, 2005 2:06 pm
#77







Kev0r wrote:

I'm involved in project management for the UK Govt. You never make a positive statement in such a high visibility position; promise one thing, then are forced to deliver another....and you end up in a world of sh*t. Even if you make the right decision.


If they plan to let us keep the premiums we have, and tell us we can, then the post CU guys would be in uproar. Far better to not really tell us anything positive and just wait unti, the change happens.








It's not as if any decision they make is of earthshattering importance. It's a game for chrissakes. They should just make a decision, announce it and stick to it. I mean, everyone else is expected in business is expcted to be proactive andstick to their word, why should SoE be any different?


As for pearls, why worry about acapped saber when it's relatively much easier and cheaper to get a double capped gun that does 30% more damage which can then be speed sliced and pupped?

Message Edited by Morwen on 09-28-2005 05:11 PM

Ahtuuke
Thu Sep 29, 2005 8:45 am
#78






Baciacca wrote:

Clarification to what is exactly ment by the following statement fromthe Stratics Chat logs found here: Click!






Premium Pearls Currently, Premium Pearls do not drop. We will bring them back into the game once we figure out a favorable implementation of these special items; there is not specific ETA for this change and all players that have the old Premium Pearls will get to keep them in the interim.






"interim" refers to the time between "now" and "when premium pearls return".




yaa ok, so Premiums are coming back some day.. what about the totally random crappy tunes?? i mean if you cna get a tune for 15 -2 with a premium pearl .. theres something wrong! lol!!!!!!11




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