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Thread: Does anyone realize that the template that beats Jedi 9/10 times only requires 3 novice trees?

Saereth
Tue Sep 27, 2005 7:15 am
#53






Tripbacca wrote:

Oh so investigation 1 - 4 is easy then?


I suppose getting top or the range weapons/armour is too... no wait your thinking like a jedi you can MAKE your own weapon oh and you dont NEED armour.


Hmm what else....nah Im done.






ROFLMAO yes its easy, I ground investigation in 6 hours yesterday, all 4 boxes roflmfao. Getting ranged topped weapons/armor.. piece of cake, 2hr quest in kashyyk for an LD, get it all nicely sliced, pupped and adked with the assloads of money generated from npc bh missions that dropped those nice tapes for me, then put in a custom order for some perfect health moded recon armor 75% ab sliced, head over to my nearest BE for some enhancers/stims/clothing, grab some droids/good foods ...all in all I say it took a little less than a week to get nearly "capped" Bh wise. btw those weapons jedi can "Make" lol.. I've spent 150million on mine so far, and its nowhere near as good as the rifle I got in less than 2hrs on kashyyk. As for not NEEDING armor, well my bh armor makes me almost immune to armorbreak, and has no force cost what so ever when I get hit, It also doesnt take skillpoints to have it, I get it naturally with my profession. So all in all I'd pretty much have to say your argument is completely invalid.





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Saereth
Tue Sep 27, 2005 7:16 am
#54






IronChickenPro wrote:





Digitalalchemyzt wrote:
your smoking crack. no way u can get a full temp in 2 weeks unless youre just a loser with absolutely no job. i was out for about 3 months and grind all day with almost all top notch spin groups and got full temp...not possible unless...no no way..





You do realize that the XP in groups is probably not working right at the moment for Jedi. As a full-temp, I get 6-7K Jedi xp per kill when I'm in a group as opposed to the usual 1k that most of us have known and cursed. So spin groups, lack of vis in groups, and the xp "bug"...makes Jedi pretty damn easy to level nowadays. But I finished temp pre-CU so I know the pain of the "lengthy grind"...but maybe that's why I enjoy my Jedi more than most other players.




Uh no you dont lol, check your actual XP monitor and you'll see you're getting 1kish, it just displays incorrectly at the moment.





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myjedi
Tue Sep 27, 2005 7:27 am
#55






Haywood wrote:






p897t98 wrote:





Tarja- wrote:





Tripbacca wrote:

Oh so investigation 1 - 4 is easy then?


I suppose getting top or the range weapons/armour is too... no wait your thinking like a jedi you can MAKE your own weapon oh and you dont NEED armour.


Hmm what else....nah Im done.








one if the dumbest people ive ever seen lol. yes, investigation is easy, takes a few hours w/ an xp buff and jamming terminals. top of the line weapons and armor cost 10 mill tops, ONE premium cost 30 milll my one pearl is more expensive than your entire armor break sliced caped energy layered armor and caped weapon that cost 1 mill to make after you already get the easily looted high end components.


1 week tops to fully template, loot enough to sell to buy armor and loot some power cells and or casings.











RIS is 15 mil on my server, ADK all that. Cap pistol mods, CM and healing Mods. 10 mil on a decent Scatter, ADK that. Then you can start beating some Jedi





lets see I have Health Enhanced armor......3 mil......3 adks for head/chest and legs= 63 million.


E11 double capped Enhanced Carbine........ 2 million + ADK = 23 million


Proton Carbine .......................................1 Million + ADK = 21 Million


+25 Carbine Speed..................................2 Million (500k per +5)


+25 Carbine Defence...............................2 Million (500k per +5)


+25 Carbine Accuracy...............................2 Million (500k per +5) btw I got really lucky on these skill tapes


+25 General Ranged Accuracy.................2 Million (500k per +5)


+20 Terrain Negotion, +25 Healing Efficency, +25 Ranged Defense, +20 Melee Defense...........call it free.


Now that is about 115 million credits just so I can try and fight a Jedi. I would assume that food, drink, stim packs, enhancers, powerups, vehicles, droids, and the 75% armor break slice on all 7 pieces of armor ( which may costs as much as3million on Intrepid due to the limited shcok padding) are not included in this estimate.


What do you say to that.




Message Edited by Haywood on 09-26-2005 09:32 PM





premium pearl25 mill (need a min of 4 if all tune perfect which will never happen so say 8)


lightsaber speed tapes 50 mill (1 mill per point) gen melee included


lightsaber accuracy tapes 25 mill (500k per point) gen melee included


adk on saber 15 mill


top of the line resources to craft a saber 1-2 mill


top of the line sabercrafting tool 100k


putting a bh in his place priceless



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Haywood
Tue Sep 27, 2005 8:33 am
#56






AnknSkywlkr wrote:





Haywood wrote:


lets see I have Health Enhanced armor......3 mil......3 adks for head/chest and legs= 63 million.


E11 double capped Enhanced Carbine........ 2 million + ADK = 23 million


Proton Carbine .......................................1 Million + ADK = 21 Million


+25 Carbine Speed..................................2 Million (500k per +5)


+25 Carbine Defence...............................2 Million (500k per +5)


+25 Carbine Accuracy...............................2 Million (500k per +5) btw I got really lucky on these skill tapes


+25 General Ranged Accuracy.................2 Million (500k per +5)


+20 Terrain Negotion, +25 Healing Efficency, +25 Ranged Defense, +20 Melee Defense...........call it free.


Now that is about 115 million credits just so I can try and fight a Jedi. I would assume that food, drink, stim packs, enhancers, powerups, vehicles, droids, and the 75% armor break slice on all 7 pieces of armor ( which may costs as much as3million on Intrepid due to the limited shcok padding) are not included in this estimate.


What do you say to that.






I say if you bought a proton carbine instead of doing the quest, you're dumb.


I did not purchase it , I did the quest. It is still worth 1 million credits. I


And if your health enhanced armor only cost you 3 mil, you're a moron for spending 60 mil to ADK 3pieces.


Jedi do three attacks, Head, Torso and leg hit. Why waste the money to adk the entire set if arnir when the Bicpes and Arms are almost never hit.


And if you can't go out and loot some skill tapes instead of buying them all, you're lazy.


Now I am lazy because I got so many skill tape at a huge bargin. I looted a 2 Hand LS accuracy and sold it for 18 million and then I used that money to pick up the skill tapesthat needed, that is not lazy.


The only point you really make is that money is far too easy for you to, come by. Go ahead and try and manipulate the numbers all you want to try and make your point.


I have played since 2 weeks after launch, I do not think that is that odd that I have made 100 million credits in 2 years.


A Jedi could just as easily say:


"OMG, I had to spend 20mil per pearl for 15 flawless pearls to tune 4 decent ones for my saber and 20 million for a LS Experimentation suit and 80 million on CAs because we can't even use AAs and millions more on food and PSGs and stims so that I can stand up to the mean MBH/MCMs. What do you say to that?"


I know of too many jedi that have used good quality crystals to acheive damage numbers that areclose to with a PRE-CU saber, which slighly higher action cocts. Send me a PM and I can tell you who to talk to on INTREPID. Most guilds share one LS experimentation suit so that argument is out of the window.


and you would see an equal number of "Amen, brother!"s from Jedi and "Cry more n00b"s from BHs.


Here's a Kleenex. Wipe your nose and call Tanks so he can make life easier for you.


No one is crying but thanks for the sympathy. Just as Jedi say they have to spend a lot of credits to be competitve we BH have spent a large amount of money just to be able to compete against an average jedi. Of note I am not the FOTM MCM/MBH/RIFLE 4 so I need all the skills tapes and best weapons to complete.


Try to be constructive when you post please.






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Jacella
Tue Sep 27, 2005 8:45 am
#57

No more whining!





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Mistwaver
Tue Sep 27, 2005 9:22 am
#58



Mythrindir wrote:
umkay..as opposed to jedi which technically (very technically) requires none...and takes 2 weeks rather than 6 months.





Tell that to the ones who grinded pre-pub 9 who spent 6+ months grinding.

On TC with double xp I'm making around 2 million xp a day before I get sick of grinding. That's 1 million xp on regular rate. Still about what I was getting pre-CU, so yes, it can still take at least 2 months to grind a full template if you don't respecsploit.



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stefwright
Tue Sep 27, 2005 9:22 am
#59






Haywood wrote:





AnknSkywlkr wrote:





Haywood wrote:


lets see I have Health Enhanced armor......3 mil......3 adks for head/chest and legs= 63 million.


E11 double capped Enhanced Carbine........ 2 million + ADK = 23 million


Proton Carbine .......................................1 Million + ADK = 21 Million


+25 Carbine Speed..................................2 Million (500k per +5)


+25 Carbine Defence...............................2 Million (500k per +5)


+25 Carbine Accuracy...............................2 Million (500k per +5) btw I got really lucky on these skill tapes


+25 General Ranged Accuracy.................2 Million (500k per +5)


+20 Terrain Negotion, +25 Healing Efficency, +25 Ranged Defense, +20 Melee Defense...........call it free.


Now that is about 115 million credits just so I can try and fight a Jedi. I would assume that food, drink, stim packs, enhancers, powerups, vehicles, droids, and the 75% armor break slice on all 7 pieces of armor ( which may costs as much as3million on Intrepid due to the limited shcok padding) are not included in this estimate.


What do you say to that.






I say if you bought a proton carbine instead of doing the quest, you're dumb.


I did not purchase it , I did the quest. It is still worth 1 million credits. I


And if your health enhanced armor only cost you 3 mil, you're a moron for spending 60 mil to ADK 3pieces.


Jedi do three attacks, Head, Torso and leg hit. Why waste the money to adk the entire set if arnir when the Bicpes and Arms are almost never hit.


And if you can't go out and loot some skill tapes instead of buying them all, you're lazy.


Now I am lazy because I got so many skill tape at a huge bargin. I looted a 2 Hand LS accuracy and sold it for 18 million and then I used that money to pick up the skill tapesthat needed, that is not lazy.


The only point you really make is that money is far too easy for you to, come by. Go ahead and try and manipulate the numbers all you want to try and make your point.


I have played since 2 weeks after launch, I do not think that is that odd that I have made 100 million credits in 2 years.


A Jedi could just as easily say:


"OMG, I had to spend 20mil per pearl for 15 flawless pearls to tune 4 decent ones for my saber and 20 million for a LS Experimentation suit and 80 million on CAs because we can't even use AAs and millions more on food and PSGs and stims so that I can stand up to the mean MBH/MCMs. What do you say to that?"


I know of too many jedi that have used good quality crystals to acheive damage numbers that areclose to with a PRE-CU saber, which slighly higher action cocts. Send me a PM and I can tell you who to talk to on INTREPID. Most guilds share one LS experimentation suit so that argument is out of the window.


and you would see an equal number of "Amen, brother!"s from Jedi and "Cry more n00b"s from BHs.


Here's a Kleenex. Wipe your nose and call Tanks so he can make life easier for you.


No one is crying but thanks for the sympathy. Just as Jedi say they have to spend a lot of credits to be competitve we BH have spent a large amount of money just to be able to compete against an average jedi. Of note I am not the FOTM MCM/MBH/RIFLE 4 so I need all the skills tapes and best weapons to complete.


Try to be constructive when you post please.







the bit about jedi just using 3 moves is not correct what about powerhit and sabarthrow, lighting and a few others, do they not have a chance of hitting anywhere?



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Haywood
Tue Sep 27, 2005 10:19 am
#60






stefwright wrote:





Haywood wrote:





AnknSkywlkr wrote:





Haywood wrote:


lets see I have Health Enhanced armor......3 mil......3 adks for head/chest and legs= 63 million.


E11 double capped Enhanced Carbine........ 2 million + ADK = 23 million


Proton Carbine .......................................1 Million + ADK = 21 Million


+25 Carbine Speed..................................2 Million (500k per +5)


+25 Carbine Defence...............................2 Million (500k per +5)


+25 Carbine Accuracy...............................2 Million (500k per +5) btw I got really lucky on these skill tapes


+25 General Ranged Accuracy.................2 Million (500k per +5)


+20 Terrain Negotion, +25 Healing Efficency, +25 Ranged Defense, +20 Melee Defense...........call it free.


Now that is about 115 million credits just so I can try and fight a Jedi. I would assume that food, drink, stim packs, enhancers, powerups, vehicles, droids, and the 75% armor break slice on all 7 pieces of armor ( which may costs as much as3million on Intrepid due to the limited shcok padding) are not included in this estimate.


What do you say to that.






I say if you bought a proton carbine instead of doing the quest, you're dumb.


I did not purchase it , I did the quest. It is still worth 1 million credits. I


And if your health enhanced armor only cost you 3 mil, you're a moron for spending 60 mil to ADK 3pieces.


Jedi do three attacks, Head, Torso and leg hit. Why waste the money to adk the entire set if arnir when the Bicpes and Arms are almost never hit.


And if you can't go out and loot some skill tapes instead of buying them all, you're lazy.


Now I am lazy because I got so many skill tape at a huge bargin. I looted a 2 Hand LS accuracy and sold it for 18 million and then I used that money to pick up the skill tapesthat needed, that is not lazy.


The only point you really make is that money is far too easy for you to, come by. Go ahead and try and manipulate the numbers all you want to try and make your point.


I have played since 2 weeks after launch, I do not think that is that odd that I have made 100 million credits in 2 years.


A Jedi could just as easily say:


"OMG, I had to spend 20mil per pearl for 15 flawless pearls to tune 4 decent ones for my saber and 20 million for a LS Experimentation suit and 80 million on CAs because we can't even use AAs and millions more on food and PSGs and stims so that I can stand up to the mean MBH/MCMs. What do you say to that?"


I know of too many jedi that have used good quality crystals to acheive damage numbers that areclose to with a PRE-CU saber, which slighly higher action cocts. Send me a PM and I can tell you who to talk to on INTREPID. Most guilds share one LS experimentation suit so that argument is out of the window.


and you would see an equal number of "Amen, brother!"s from Jedi and "Cry more n00b"s from BHs.


Here's a Kleenex. Wipe your nose and call Tanks so he can make life easier for you.


No one is crying but thanks for the sympathy. Just as Jedi say they have to spend a lot of credits to be competitve we BH have spent a large amount of money just to be able to compete against an average jedi. Of note I am not the FOTM MCM/MBH/RIFLE 4 so I need all the skills tapes and best weapons to complete.


Try to be constructive when you post please.







the bit about jedi just using 3 moves is not correct what about powerhit and sabarthrow, lighting and a few others, do they not have a chance of hitting anywhere?





Saber throw hits the legs, so I would call that a leg hit, power hit will hit some where in chest almost every time. The any torso attack can hit any one of 5 places, chest, bicpes or arms with most attacks hitting the chest. I have been pvping with the same set of armor for about 3 months. I have repaired the head and legs 5 times each before I had to get new and the chest I have repaired 3 times. I have not had to repair any of the arm armor and they are still have 50% condition. That is why I only bothered to ADK head, chest and legs.




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JeetBadwarrior
Tue Sep 27, 2005 10:30 am
#61

well I tell you just like the jedi told me way back in my mbh days.......when jedi had the you cant touch me with a range weapon noob pwn 1337 85% saber block....and I take great plesure in this without futher ado


" LEARN TO PLAY YOUR TEMP NOOB"



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Acip
Tue Sep 27, 2005 10:51 am
#62


are jedi and/or bh peeps star wars fans? do either of them enjoy the game or just spend their time arguing over crap they cant control or change?


if everyone suddenly aggreed completely with the jedi, what would be any different?

if everyone suddenly aggreed completely with the mbh, what would be any different?


answer : NOTHING


bottom line: you all have three choices, and three choices only...


Choice A - save the $14 a month and quit

Choice B - quit complaining and play the game

Choice C - keep complaining and take the fun out of the game (if no fun anymore, see choice A)


Sorry guys, but too many of you are taking choice C lately.



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Sorotia
Tue Sep 27, 2005 11:24 am
#63






Tripbacca wrote:

Oh so investigation 1 - 4 is easy then?


I suppose getting top or the range weapons/armour is too... no wait your thinking like a jedi you can MAKE your own weapon oh and you dont NEED armour.


Hmm what else....nah Im done.








um making one of my alts bh for the loot so far its been pretty easy just because you cant grind it out in like a hour like the other 3 tree's doesnt mean it hard.


hmmm lets see you get uber loot to make your weapons which are better than pearls in many ways you get uber loot you can sell and buy your armor.


bh is a slap in the face to everyone loot is so screwed up and bh's have it perfect have access to at least 90% of loot in the game if not more.
Haywood
Tue Sep 27, 2005 12:29 pm
#64






grayoberon wrote:
I'm waiting for someone to explain why jedi has to be balanced with the other professions.

They're jedi. They kick butt. Repeatedly, with grace and ease.

You want balance, line up a rebel jedi vs. an imperial.

I don't hear the CL 1 architects whining that they can't beat up on a jedi. Or a TKM. Or a novice marksman. If you want to compete against jedi, become one. If you don't, play WoW.

What part of "star wars" did you miss when you read the box in the store?





1st 2 years ago when I read the box Jedi was not a selling feature. We were told to just play the game and anyone could unlock. It was to be rare and very hard to obtain and the path was to be unknown. I would love to go back to those days when Jedi were only solo and if you wanted to see one you had to know the person and then maybe you could go to a private house or guild hall to see them. Most of the people that purchased this game wanted to play in the star wars universe which has a few token jedi.....not groups of 20 hanging out at star ports. What part of star wars episode iv, A NEW HOPE, did you read or see that had jedi every where, or pikeman or TKMs.


I also did play SHAMAN, STORMREAVER.






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Jedi_Paddowan
Tue Sep 27, 2005 12:47 pm
#65

Try not sounding like a closet fan and read the novels, jedi werent as rare as the movies made them seem. other point is, 2-4 weeks grinding to MBH does not compare to 3-6 months of grinding to jedi, period. credits or no credits dont matter. Ive not seen every BH that comes by all wearing the exact same armor or weapons, every BH that comes by is wearing somediff suit or combo armor, its how you use you gear folks, not how expensive it is, lol. The gear is irrelevent to the grinding procress. this thread is about the skills, not the equipment.
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