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Thread: Does anyone realize that the template that beats Jedi 9/10 times only requires 3 novice trees?

xkarvastorx
Tue Sep 27, 2005 1:10 pm
#66






Tripbacca wrote:

Oh so investigation 1 - 4 is easy then?


I suppose getting top or the range weapons/armour is too... no wait your thinking like a jedi you can MAKE your own weapon oh and you dont NEED armour.


Hmm what else....nah Im done.







investigation 1-4 is easy (relatively speaking)I did it in a matter of 3 days. It took me 6 months to grind for jedi and another 6 to finish it. Im not saying I agree with the op only saying that grinding a bh is in noway comprable to grinding a jedi.



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MsNiL
Tue Sep 27, 2005 1:13 pm
#67





Mythrindir wrote:
umkay..as opposed to jedi which technically (very technically) requires none...and takes 2 weeks rather than 6 months.



Six lines, that takes ~3,5 months to grind, plus 2-4 months of padawan grinding.




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Jediknight2k1
Tue Sep 27, 2005 1:18 pm
#68






TraceAntilles wrote:


Isn't it pathetic how a template that only requires three novice trees, one in medic, marksman and scout, is somehow able to match a fight with a Jedi template that takes at least 6 months just to get and even longer to complete???


There is something awfully sick about that and definitely unbalanced.






It still requires 2 elite professions to master to stand a chance against Jedi.


If you are losing alot to MCM/MBH then you need to learn how to pvp against them.





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Haywood
Wed Sep 28, 2005 12:32 am
#69






Sorotia wrote:





Tripbacca wrote:

Oh so investigation 1 - 4 is easy then?


I suppose getting top or the range weapons/armour is too... no wait your thinking like a jedi you can MAKE your own weapon oh and you dont NEED armour.


Hmm what else....nah Im done.








um making one of my alts bh for the loot so far its been pretty easy just because you cant grind it out in like a hour like the other 3 tree's doesnt mean it hard.


hmmm lets see you get uber loot to make your weapons which are better than pearls in many ways you get uber loot you can sell and buy your armor.


bh is a slap in the face to everyone loot is so screwed up and bh's have it perfect have access to at least 90% of loot in the game if not more.






Sooryto day but a post cu lightsaber has a higher min damage than any player weapon and you can get an additional 120 elemental damage which does not take the damage reduction for pvp.


I would would love to have a weapon with 550 min -650 max and 120 elemental damage.....I would NEVER lose to a jedi if I had this weapon.






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Nathanielstarr
Wed Sep 28, 2005 12:38 am
#70






Haywood wrote:





Sorotia wrote:





Tripbacca wrote:

Oh so investigation 1 - 4 is easy then?


I suppose getting top or the range weapons/armour is too... no wait your thinking like a jedi you can MAKE your own weapon oh and you dont NEED armour.


Hmm what else....nah Im done.








um making one of my alts bh for the loot so far its been pretty easy just because you cant grind it out in like a hour like the other 3 tree's doesnt mean it hard.


hmmm lets see you get uber loot to make your weapons which are better than pearls in many ways you get uber loot you can sell and buy your armor.


bh is a slap in the face to everyone loot is so screwed up and bh's have it perfect have access to at least 90% of loot in the game if not more.






Sooryto day but a post cu lightsaber has a higher min damage than any player weapon and you can get an additional 120 elemental damage which does not take the damage reduction for pvp.


I would would love to have a weapon with 550 min -650 max and 120 elemental damage.....I would NEVER lose to a jedi if I had this weapon.







Don't forget that most Jedi have aura and that means that we hit for our minimum damage. Then throw in force armor and we're doing half our minimum damage. That's about what 200 damage at best? Jedi are still much stronger
WookieOgre
Wed Sep 28, 2005 12:55 am
#71






Nathanielstarr wrote:

Don't forget that most Jedi have aura and that means that we hit for our minimum damage. Then throw in force armor and we're doing half our minimum damage. That's about what 200 damage at best? Jedi are still much stronger






That is the mistake people who don't know the rules make. You only hit at your minimum if your Accuracy sucks. What does ForceArmor have to do with making you hit your min damage? Force Aura by itself I can counter just with my 309 accuracy and taking pyro (205 accuracy).


200 damage at best, rofl. How about have you collected some Accuracy mods? Do you use Accuracy food? Do you use the /aim skill in Rifles for the additional 240 accuracy? I mean fine you say you hit for 200 at best, what kind of weapon do you use lol.


Jedi defensesare no different than a Melee toon. You whine and complain about Jedi when regular melee toons are actually stronger than Jedi. They can actually wear armor and get it sliced where a Jedi can not. Not to mention they can pick up superior healing, something no Jedi can match.
Tarja-
Sat Oct 01, 2005 3:10 pm
#72






Haywood wrote:






p897t98 wrote:





Tarja- wrote:





Tripbacca wrote:

Oh so investigation 1 - 4 is easy then?


I suppose getting top or the range weapons/armour is too... no wait your thinking like a jedi you can MAKE your own weapon oh and you dont NEED armour.


Hmm what else....nah Im done.








one if the dumbest people ive ever seen lol. yes, investigation is easy, takes a few hours w/ an xp buff and jamming terminals. top of the line weapons and armor cost 10 mill tops, ONE premium cost 30 milll my one pearl is more expensive than your entire armor break sliced caped energy layered armor and caped weapon that cost 1 mill to make after you already get the easily looted high end components.


1 week tops to fully template, loot enough to sell to buy armor and loot some power cells and or casings.











RIS is 15 mil on my server, ADK all that. Cap pistol mods, CM and healing Mods. 10 mil on a decent Scatter, ADK that. Then you can start beating some Jedi





lets see I have Health Enhanced armor......3 mil......3 adks for head/chest and legs= 63 million.


E11 double capped Enhanced Carbine........ 2 million + ADK = 23 million


Proton Carbine .......................................1 Million + ADK = 21 Million


+25 Carbine Speed..................................2 Million (500k per +5)


+25 Carbine Defence...............................2 Million (500k per +5)


+25 Carbine Accuracy...............................2 Million (500k per +5) btw I got really lucky on these skill tapes


+25 General Ranged Accuracy.................2 Million (500k per +5)


+20 Terrain Negotion, +25 Healing Efficency, +25 Ranged Defense, +20 Melee Defense...........call it free.


Now that is about 115 million credits just so I can try and fight a Jedi. I would assume that food, drink, stim packs, enhancers, powerups, vehicles, droids, and the 75% armor break slice on all 7 pieces of armor ( which may costs as much as3million on Intrepid due to the limited shcok padding) are not included in this estimate.


What do you say to that.




Message Edited by Haywood on 09-26-2005 09:32 PM




to that i say your an idiot and bought 100% of your stuff looting none of the components. 6 mil+looted components is enough to buy the required stuff kill jedi, pre nerf belts, bandos, shirts=no decay for your tapes. decay isnt even a huge issue since i never die.



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hamhamthe3rd
Sat Oct 01, 2005 3:21 pm
#73

i would just like to say that it doesnt take +100 million credits to beat a jedi.
wildcat84
Sat Oct 01, 2005 3:27 pm
#74


Tripbacca wrote:

Oh so investigation 1 - 4 is easy then?

I suppose getting top or the range weapons/armour is too... no wait your thinking like a jedi you can MAKE your own weapon oh and you dont NEED armour.

Hmm what else....nah Im done.






Yes, it is easy. Just boring. I grinded MBH on my alt, and did it all via missions. It took me a few days vs 6 months to get my Jedi, and 2 more to finish template.

Not to mention, while grinding MBH (after the mission revamp) I collected several million credits worth of loot, something you don't get in the Jedi grind.

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Haywood
Sun Oct 02, 2005 7:34 am
#75






Tarja- wrote:








RIS is 15 mil on my server, ADK all that. Cap pistol mods, CM and healing Mods. 10 mil on a decent Scatter, ADK that. Then you can start beating some Jedi





lets see I have Health Enhanced armor......3 mil......3 adks for head/chest and legs= 63 million.


E11 double capped Enhanced Carbine........ 2 million + ADK = 23 million


Proton Carbine .......................................1 Million + ADK = 21 Million


+25 Carbine Speed..................................2 Million (500k per +5)


+25 Carbine Defence...............................2 Million (500k per +5)


+25 Carbine Accuracy...............................2 Million (500k per +5) btw I got really lucky on these skill tapes


+25 General Ranged Accuracy.................2 Million (500k per +5)


+20 Terrain Negotion, +25 Healing Efficency, +25 Ranged Defense, +20 Melee Defense...........call it free.


Now that is about 115 million credits just so I can try and fight a Jedi. I would assume that food, drink, stim packs, enhancers, powerups, vehicles, droids, and the 75% armor break slice on all 7 pieces of armor ( which may costs as much as3million on Intrepid due to the limited shcok padding) are not included in this estimate.






to that i say your an idiot and bought 100% of your stuff looting none of the components. 6 mil+looted components is enough to buy the required stuff kill jedi, pre nerf belts, bandos, shirts=no decay for your tapes. decay isnt even a huge issue since i never die.






Many of the items I looted buta point of fact here. I have 5 ADKs and so that is one from my account and the other 4 I had to buy. Right now on intrepid that is a min of 80 just mil for ADKS. Many of the items I looted, as a MBH there was tons to be had, but a lot of those skill tapes were not carbine specific. What is a MBH/MCARBS going to do with a +15 2 Hand LS Accuracy. Would I be an idiot to keep that or perhaps sell it for 18 million and buy the skill tapes that I needed.


As far as the guns went, I did loot the proton carb and the powercells for the Enhanced E11, but my point is they are still worth a few bucks.


If you looted all the perfectly premiums perals that tuned to max damage, lowest action costs, would saber be worth 0, since that is what you paid for it? I sugest you would say that it would be 100 mil min, even though that is not what you paid that is what it is worth.




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SVX007
Sun Oct 02, 2005 7:51 am
#76



rizzacathon wrote:
a decent spin group can grind out paddy to master in less then 3 weeks. the village point is a valid one though. does take 18 days and a 3 week break between each day to do village.





At how many hours a day though.




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Azino
Sun Oct 02, 2005 7:56 am
#77






Mythrindir wrote:

/emote searches ebay.com

/emote clicks

/emote is now a jedi!
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I'd buy a pre-CU Jedi from e-bay if I could transfer the pearls over... :S



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Haywood
Mon Nov 07, 2005 8:34 am
#78






Tarja- wrote:








RIS is 15 mil on my server, ADK all that. Cap pistol mods, CM and healing Mods. 10 mil on a decent Scatter, ADK that. Then you can start beating some Jedi





lets see I have Health Enhanced armor......3 mil......3 adks for head/chest and legs= 63 million.


E11 double capped Enhanced Carbine........ 2 million + ADK = 23 million


Proton Carbine .......................................1 Million + ADK = 21 Million


+25 Carbine Speed..................................2 Million (500k per +5)


+25 Carbine Defence...............................2 Million (500k per +5)


+25 Carbine Accuracy...............................2 Million (500k per +5) btw I got really lucky on these skill tapes


+25 General Ranged Accuracy.................2 Million (500k per +5)


+20 Terrain Negotion, +25 Healing Efficency, +25 Ranged Defense, +20 Melee Defense...........call it free.


Now that is about 115 million credits just so I can try and fight a Jedi. I would assume that food, drink, stim packs, enhancers, powerups, vehicles, droids, and the 75% armor break slice on all 7 pieces of armor ( which may costs as much as3million on Intrepid due to the limited shcok padding) are not included in this estimate.






to that i say your an idiot and bought 100% of your stuff looting none of the components. 6 mil+looted components is enough to buy the required stuff kill jedi, pre nerf belts, bandos, shirts=no decay for your tapes. decay isnt even a huge issue since i never die.






Many of the items I looted buta point of fact here. I have 5 ADKs and so that is one from my account and the other 4 I had to buy. Right now on intrepid that is a min of 80 just mil for ADKS. Many of the items I looted, as a MBH there was tons to be had, but a lot of those skill tapes were not carbine specific. What is a MBH/MCARBS going to do with a +15 2 Hand LS Accuracy. Would I be an idiot to keep that or perhaps sell it for 18 million and buy the skill tapes that I needed.


As far as the guns went, I did loot the proton carb and the powercells for the Enhanced E11, but my point is they are still worth a few bucks.


If you looted all the perfectly premiums perals that tuned to max damage, lowest action costs, would saber be worth 0, since that is what you paid for it? I sugest you would say that it would be 100 mil min, even though that is not what you paid that is what it is worth.




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