Jedi Archive

Lets see (and this is just for jedi not the entire game)

Pre CU

Pro's
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- PVE damage output alot higher (but then this was due to behind the scenes upgrades and not standard damage)
- Using lower specials than your max.
- Mpowers animal attcks/controls.
- 85% saberblock
- Combat queue made life easier to keep track of fights

Cons
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- Melee tore through us like butter
- 60% LS resist PSG's
- Everyone forced to use polearm saber to compete
- First KD/Dizzy usually won
- Warcry/Warcry2 abuse
- Needing to get buffed before stepping out of your house
- Melee stacked BH
- MLS and Heal 4004 were must have professions so less diversity available.
- CM BH with 1300 tick poisons
- BH with Dot weapons
- BH with Exceptional weapons
- Forced Solo grind

Post CU

Pro's
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- MLS Heal 4004 no longer required allowing more diversity (just because people are lazy and like FOTM's doesnt mean they couldnt use them)
- Perma 3k HAM
- BH fights usually 1 on 1
- No visibility from groups
- Ranged more prominant
- Able to wear PSG's
- Innate jedi armour
- Powers now has decent force costs
- Force armour is worth a damn
- General use stims
- Jedi specific CA's

Cons
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- Weapons/Specials have SAC cost as well as force
- Loss of LS toughness
- Loss of ability to use lower level specials

pre-cu by far.

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TEHMOUSSE wrote:
i'd just like to get some numbers guys,
would you rather have pre cu back as it was right before cu came, and fix that old system, or keep CU ?

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How about we get Jedi back to pre-9 AND we take out these ridiculous "exceptional" weapons as well as the stupid 1k poisons.

Do that, and I agree this would be a much better game.....at least to me, not sure about the BH's coming after me lol.

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cmreeves wrote:

Pre CU FTW.

This system sucks, Jedi is asweak as a Master Marksman. We have sabers that are made out of paper mache. This is a freaking JOKE. SOE what are you thinking. If you are screwing us over to extend the longevity of the game, I would say that you bought yourself a year max before this game totally dies.

This is not a whine, these are the facts!!!

Message Edited by cmreeves on 09-06-2005 04:22 PM

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Correct answer for the win.

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hraka wrote:

I would rather have the old system even with the bugs, even with the buffs, even with the armor. It was so much faster paced and much less boring.

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pre-CU my old SWG was cool, this cu is big bullsh!t and why ?

there is nothing else to do just.. xpgrind xpgrind and no fun, no way of have fun, you can't do this, you can't do that... that's what is CU and it is not balanced as they promissed... and.. they forgot that players want to have fun, not just xpGrind...

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Oblox wrote:
Lets see (and this is just for jedi not the entire game)

Pre CU

Pro's
-----

- PVE damage output alot higher (but then this was due to behind the scenes upgrades and not standard damage)
- Using lower specials than your max.
- Mpowers animal attcks/controls.
- 85% saberblock
- Combat queue made life easier to keep track of fights

Cons
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- Melee tore through us like butter
- 60% LS resist PSG's
- Everyone forced to use polearm saber to compete
- First KD/Dizzy usually won
- Warcry/Warcry2 abuse
- Needing to get buffed before stepping out of your house
- Melee stacked BH
- MLS and Heal 4004 were must have professions so less diversity available.
- CM BH with 1300 tick poisons
- BH with Dot weapons
- BH with Exceptional weapons
- Forced Solo grind

Post CU

Pro's
-----

- MLS Heal 4004 no longer required allowing more diversity (just because people are lazy and like FOTM's doesnt mean they couldnt use them)
- Perma 3k HAM
- BH fights usually 1 on 1
- No visibility from groups
- Ranged more prominant
- Able to wear PSG's
- Innate jedi armour
- Powers now has decent force costs
- Force armour is worth a damn it was very good pre cu too
- General use stims
- Jedi specific CA's

Cons
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- Weapons/Specials have SAC cost as well as force
- Loss of LS toughness
- Loss of ability to use lower level specials

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Message Edited by Sarelak on 09-07-2005 08:51 AM

I will reply in a way that most will relate to (this does not include specific things like the old kd/dizzy problem...that could have been tweaked...everything can be tweaked) The prolem is the combat "FEEL" is buggy and slow now....the old feel was quick and crisp by comparison and the combat window was really cool.

NOW:

Slow

You never know what special is queued up next or if it even took

Most of the time your KD'd and don't even know it. Then when your toon falls down, your actually not KD anymore

Speeds seem horribly slow in general with the cooldown timers,then sometimes theyquicker. Being buffed in both cases.

You can't change shift quickly, cuz there is some kind of queue of specials you picked, but you can't stop and shift gears, you just have to wait and die or not get the incap you wanted. Sometime 5 seconds or more, just so you can now do something different.

I like PRE CU....I can see my specials queued up and when I change my mind, I can stop the queue, and layout a different strategy and actually see it take place.

Message Edited by KeeferKman on 09-07-2005 02:06 PM

I enjoyed the Pre CU era. Might miss cloak from Post CU times but am willing to give that up and I am a major cloaker big time. And a few things like visibility in a group was a nice fix that coulda been done with the pre CU.

I miss the Pre CU animals and NPCs. Animals were a set HAM type and toughness in missions or in the wild. The NPCs had unique character names given them and they would interact with a Player more based on Faction points. Its nice having an NPC help me. Now a days they just stand around doing nothing.

I feel I miss the old crafting days, and I dislike the level system. Some of the changes shoulda been added to the pre CU system is all I can reckon and some of the Post CU changes should never have been done. Then take the result of both those things and mix them.

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TEHMOUSSE wrote:
i'd just like to get some numbers guys,
would you rather have pre cu back as it was right before cu came, and fix that old system, or keep CU ?

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stop asking for the love of god!!!

PreCU