Jedi Archive

Btw, you should have posted it like this:

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PedricCuff wrote:

Everything I highlight is total BS, and you need to get over yourself, Jedi:

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Paladon wrote:

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PedricCuff wrote:

Jedi and BH are the two profs that get the absolute most attention from the devs. Think about the Smuggler, Rangers, Commandos, and meelee profs that have never gotten any changes or tweaks to their profs.

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No argument there. Tell you what, how about we take out every change to Jedi and BH done since the CU?

THEN NEVER EVER

TOUCH JEDI AGAIN

YES! Give attention to the OTHER professions. No doubt at least 97% of Jedi would agree with you that we've gotten WAAAAAY too much attention:

• FRS removal


• Saber Block(anyone remember this one? Oh, yeah, it's going to be in the FRS...)


• PvE death xp loss removal(Supposedly, according to BH's this could have been gotten back in an hour anyway, so who cares?)


• Force Sap


• Avoid Incapacitation(Left-Right, andhere comes the uppercut)


• Heal Speed


• Force Speed


• Doctor Speed(Wait, the DOCTORS got hit with that one, too)


• Mind Costs


• Action Costs


• Force Costs


• XP nerf(hehehe)


• Ranged Defense


• Cloak


• LS required to be equipped when using force powers


• Stasis(youKNOW it's coming)


• Am I missing anything? Oh...we get robes with the new expansion. Robes, and 1 crystal with this and the last expansion each. I mean, we didn't have robes or special color crystals yet, did we?


• Names removed from terminals(yet multiple BH's in the same guild coincidentally ganging up at the same time, :smileyvery-happy


• Visibility in Groups(a CU requirement that took months to implement)

You forgot these:

• Speed Skill Mods not being applied


• Premium and Flawless Crystals and Pearls not dropping


• Knockdown with Impoved Saber Throw


• Cone knockdown with Advanced Saber Throw


• Dervish Damage


• Power Attack

Tell you what. If you like, I'm PERFECTLY WILLING to have all that taken back for all the professions that have suffered through this time of having the devs only work on Jedi/BH. Take it ALL back, every last bit, and fix all the other professions before they even THINK of LOOKING at Jedi again.

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PedricCuff wrote:

The investigation tree took me about two weeks of non-stop grinding in the summer (when I played like 8-15 hours a day, sometimes more).

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Invest I-IV typically takes me 1-3 days casually. "Learn to play your template"(to use the everpopular Jedi/BH comeback to any suggestion of balance).

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PedricCuff wrote:

1.5x more powerful is what you guys are.

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No, it's not. That's what the myth is.

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PedricCuff wrote:

You make up for the really powerful temp and the extra character by being hunted by other players

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No; that USED to make up for it, but with all the recent nerfs, it means nothing now.

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Bounty Hunterswrote:

If it's that bad quit.

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The same to every profession out there. Be a merchant with the rediculous vendor interface. Be a commando that does pathetic damage and agros everything in the area and have bad defenses against the masses coming at you. Be a smuggler; or a ranger; or a squad leader.

If it's so bad for THEM why haven't THEY quit? Smugglers have been complaining since DAY ONE. That's longer than Jedi have even been around. If it's that bad why don't THEY quit? If you were to ask one you'd probably get an answer that'd fit a Jedi or any OTHER profession person that still plays.

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I quit.

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Message Edited by Paladon on 10-09-2005 06:36 PM

Message Edited by Paladon on 10-09-2005 06:53 PM

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Paladon wrote:

YES! Give attention to the OTHER professions. No doubt at least 97% of Jedi would agree with you that we've gotten WAAAAAY too much attention:

• FRS removal


• Saber Block(anyone remember this one? Oh, yeah, it's going to be in the FRS...)


• PvE death xp loss removal(Supposedly, according to BH's this could have been gotten back in an hour anyway, so who cares?)


• Force Sap


• Avoid Incapacitation(Left-Right, andhere comes the uppercut)


• Heal Speed


• Force Speed


• Doctor Speed(Wait, the DOCTORS got hit with that one, too)


• Mind Costs


• Action Costs


• Force Costs


• XP nerf(hehehe)


• Ranged Defense


• Cloak


• LS required to be equipped when using force powers


• Stasis(youKNOW it's coming)


• Am I missing anything? Oh...we get robes with the new expansion. Robes, and 1 crystal with this and the last expansion each. I mean, we didn't have robes or special color crystals yet, did we?


• Names removed from terminals(yet multiple BH's in the same guild coincidentally ganging up at the same time, :smileyvery-happy


• Visibility in Groups(a CU requirement that took months to implement)

Tell you what. If you like, I'm PERFECTLY WILLING to have all that taken back for all the professions that have suffered through this time of having the devs only work on Jedi/BH. Take it ALL back, every last bit, and fix all the other professions before they even THINK of LOOKING at Jedi again.

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How about perma-death, saber tef... oh wait, listing those things would have made your argument look like crap. Nevermind then.

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AshleyB wrote:

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Paladon wrote:

YES! Give attention to the OTHER professions. No doubt at least 97% of Jedi would agree with you that we've gotten WAAAAAY too much attention:

• FRS removal


• Saber Block(anyone remember this one? Oh, yeah, it's going to be in the FRS...)


• PvE death xp loss removal(Supposedly, according to BH's this could have been gotten back in an hour anyway, so who cares?)


• Force Sap


• Avoid Incapacitation(Left-Right, andhere comes the uppercut)


• Heal Speed


• Force Speed


• Doctor Speed(Wait, the DOCTORS got hit with that one, too)


• Mind Costs


• Action Costs


• Force Costs


• XP nerf(hehehe)


• Ranged Defense


• Cloak


• LS required to be equipped when using force powers


• Stasis(youKNOW it's coming)


• Am I missing anything? Oh...we get robes with the new expansion. Robes, and 1 crystal with this and the last expansion each. I mean, we didn't have robes or special color crystals yet, did we?


• Names removed from terminals(yet multiple BH's in the same guild coincidentally ganging up at the same time, :smileyvery-happy


• Visibility in Groups(a CU requirement that took months to implement)

Tell you what. If you like, I'm PERFECTLY WILLING to have all that taken back for all the professions that have suffered through this time of having the devs only work on Jedi/BH. Take it ALL back, every last bit, and fix all the other professions before they even THINK of LOOKING at Jedi again.

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How about perma-death, saber tef... oh wait, listing those things would have made your argument look like crap. Nevermind then.

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Message Edited by Paladon on 10-09-2005 06:29 PM

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Paladon wrote:

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AshleyB wrote:

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Paladon wrote:

YES! Give attention to the OTHER professions. No doubt at least 97% of Jedi would agree with you that we've gotten WAAAAAY too much attention:

• FRS removal


• Saber Block(anyone remember this one? Oh, yeah, it's going to be in the FRS...)


• PvE death xp loss removal(Supposedly, according to BH's this could have been gotten back in an hour anyway, so who cares?)


• Force Sap


• Avoid Incapacitation(Left-Right, andhere comes the uppercut)


• Heal Speed


• Force Speed


• Doctor Speed(Wait, the DOCTORS got hit with that one, too)


• Mind Costs


• Action Costs


• Force Costs


• XP nerf(hehehe)


• Ranged Defense


• Cloak


• LS required to be equipped when using force powers


• Stasis(youKNOW it's coming)


• Am I missing anything? Oh...we get robes with the new expansion. Robes, and 1 crystal with this and the last expansion each. I mean, we didn't have robes or special color crystals yet, did we?


• Names removed from terminals(yet multiple BH's in the same guild coincidentally ganging up at the same time, :smileyvery-happy


• Visibility in Groups(a CU requirement that took months to implement)

Tell you what. If you like, I'm PERFECTLY WILLING to have all that taken back for all the professions that have suffered through this time of having the devs only work on Jedi/BH. Take it ALL back, every last bit, and fix all the other professions before they even THINK of LOOKING at Jedi again.

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How about perma-death, saber tef... oh wait, listing those things would have made your argument look like crap. Nevermind then.

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How about Jedi wearing Full Composite? Sure, I'll trade in Innate armor for what everyone else is using,

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And while we're on the subject of Pre-CU(not specifically what I was addressing earlier, but when in Rome), how about Lightsaber damage type and medium AP?

Message Edited by Paladon on 10-09-2005 06:29 PM

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yep il wear my 6.5k adk, 75% armor break sliced R.I.S anyday.

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AshleyB wrote:

Way to completely shift the topic.

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Did you mean to hit the post button like a year ago or something? Some CM or Smuggler or Enhancer put a root/daze on you?(that's a new effect that the CU introduced,btw; kind of a neat one, heh)

Lets not forget that back then there was also no village, so a person could just delete one Jedi and start a new Jedi. The second slot was your "Jedi Slot"(now you have to spend a minimum of 18 weeks at the village if you start a new character that you want to be a Jedi).

Jedi are the most powerful combat class in the game. Period. End of story. Stop your **edit**ing whining.

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PedricCuff wrote:
Stop your...whining.

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Message Edited by Paladon on 10-09-2005 08:02 PM

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PedricCuff wrote:
Jedi are the most powerful combat class in the game. Period. End of story. Stop your **edit**ing whining.

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not sure how long you have been playing or what newb server you play on, but jedi are far from the most powerful class.

Irony is this thread itself.

Sorry, but before I was master pike I had a speed sliced proton rifle that would out damg 90% of the lightsabers I've seen.. Jedi can be the most powerful with a great saber, but I haven't seen many glow sticks that did outstanding damg. Still even with a super glow stick Jedi are no where near as powerful as they should be.. Jedi in this game are a joke. I don't know how long it takes to make a full temp Jedi from scratch, but it's too much work for what you guys get.. I say bring on the Power. I want to it. This just isn't Star Wars with all of these wet noodle Jedi

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LandonRyuu wrote:

Good post, it would still allow for a Jedi hunting profession, but that profession would be as difficult to obtain and take as much dedication as Jedi, on the other hand it would be nearly equal to the Jedi profession and still Force related, which would stop this "non-Force Sensitive BHs owning full template Jedi" nonsense.

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Jedi are mortal. Jedi died in the thousands in the clone wars, dozens if not almost a hundred of them died on Geonosis. Some Jedi died at the hands of droids, some at the hands of mere clone troopers. As a person that has followed the Star Wars mythology my whole life I do not know wherepeople get this jedi=god thing. Some Jedi were incredible.....Vader, Yoda, Mace Windu, Obi Wan Kenobi, but they were out of the ordinary, they were the best Jedi that ever lived. They also trained their whole lives (except Vader but he's the choosen one) and your Jedi was trained by some second hand Jedi a few years ago (if not only months).So anywayeven Jedi masters like Ki Adi Mundi were no match to 4 or so clone troopers and he was on the council.