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Thread: Jedi grind pre-CU and post-CU...............the thoughts of an old Jedi

Alvantes
Sun Oct 16, 2005 5:06 pm
#53


I hate to see so many of you bashing this guy who has made an exellent point,


Back in the day jedi were a rare occurance. If one came to where u were pvping, you either attacked him with your group or u ran for the hills. Jedi use to be a respectable profession. Someone who had ground 30 or so professions, who had searched across the planets collecting the POI's and getting aquainted witht he game through doing so. When the publish went live that moved the jedi system away from holo grinding and into the system we have today a lot of people started going for jedi, but alot gave it up when tehy realized the huge task ahead of them. It wasnt until the combat upgrade came along that the jedi population took such a gigantic leap.


Some people have said that grinding by yourself on endor doesnt help you better your knowlegde of the game. Im going to have to disagree with this. While i was solo grinding I learned more about this game than anyone possibly can now in an AoE group and previously afk grind groups in wookiee land. You learn how to use your template, how much you can handle, when to run, and when to stay and fight.


And the jedi grind wasnt easy, some said earlier that nothing had lightsaber resistance, but orginally there was no such thing as lightsaber, there were only acid, blast, cold, energy, heat, kenetic, and stun. And lightsabers didnt have an elemental damage. You also had to face the fact that jedi had no defence then too.


Everyone can see the main problem with SWG now, its all Jedi vs BH. The GSW is as good as dead, everyone is too busy FS grinding, jedi grinding or running bh missions for loot to sell.



Everyone should probly stand back and look at the situation as a whole, and how things use to be and are now, before they start flaming people and rasing havoc.



Alvantes Tyrrant


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SoloBacca1
Sun Oct 16, 2005 5:14 pm
#54

Man listen... With all the changes all the Nerfing we either have to get Respecs all time or Easy grind once they are done with Revamping it all and stop the balancing thingy then come with all of your hate to the Xps!




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Alvantes
Sun Oct 16, 2005 5:17 pm
#55

Jedi has taken a few hits since then. It use to be a lot stronger. But can u really have 75% of the server running around as an Alpha Class profession? New jedi are unable to make sabers nething close to those of the pre-cu knights, and the xp nerfing for jedi is a pain, but any full template jedi with a half way decent saber who knows what they are doing should be able to handle themselves against neone.



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Zephrin_B
Sun Oct 16, 2005 5:51 pm
#56






weeee wrote:
1.5 to 2 weeks is what it takes to grind to fulltemplate



Sure, if you're a mindless zombie with no life that wishes or can afford to play 8+ hours a day non-stop. Let's stop pretending that 2 weeks is the norm, shall we? People who grind full template in 2 weeks fall into one of two categories: AFK grinders, are the kind of people completely lacking social skills that most of us wouldn'twant to know in real life.




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Zephrin_B
Sun Oct 16, 2005 6:46 pm
#57

This is slightly off topic. In fact it's not even about pre-CU vs post-CU. It's about pre-pub 9 vs post-pub 9. People deciding on getting Jedi post-pub 9 had but a simple task (aside from the badges)....pick a combat template and grind, grind, and grind some more (I fit into this category, being a casual player, only having mastered 6 professions at the time). Pre-pub 9 Jedi, of course, had it a bit different. They had to grind the right professions in order to unlock. Since most of them didn't know what these were (or at least the 5th and final to unlock), most of them wound up grinding 20+ professions to unlock (in fact of guild mate of mine ground 22 in 4 months before unlocking). I'm not exactly making an argument for which system is better, but there was one nice thing about knowing a pre-pub 9 Jedi. Since most of them had to grind out just about every profession to unlock, they understood more about the game than most of the playerbase. In fact, I used to think of the guild mate I mentioned as a kind of 'Yoda' since you could ask him a question about just about any aspect of the game or a profession and he would usually know the answer from memory (having been there, done that).


I'm not really going anywhere with this, other than to say that the average pre-pub 9 Jedi was, all in all, a more knowledgeable player (unlike me of course). And in general, they were more helpful as well. Oh well, enough of me. Have a good night.





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dashx2525
Sun Oct 16, 2005 7:30 pm
#58

them youngsters just arent any good!!


lol jokes aside though i really dislike how i grinded for almost a year and only have half...HALF my template done then the CU hits and a guildy unlocks that very day actually, and he finished his template in a month, and even before i finished my other half.




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jaryane
Mon Oct 17, 2005 12:02 am
#59


Another post on how hard it was for me then, and how easy it is for you now.Will people just stop whining about this crap!!


Sounds like how old people would say, " I had to walk 2 miles in the snow both ways with no shoes to school"


Let's get over the fact that there are a ton of jedi. Let's remember that after the game has been out for 3 years it was inevitable that there were going to be a lot of jedi.


I was playing for 2 or so years before I finally unlocked....I'm not full temp and I've been jedi for at least 3 or 4 months.



Just because you have no life and that you can play the game 8hrs a day, don't sit here and try and ruin it for people who can get on 2 hrs every other 2 or 3 days and grind hard.


Try going to school (and studying), get a full-time job, hang out with reallife friends, get a girlfriend (and if you have one that likes playing the game, take her out on a couple dates)


The only people that should be on this game 8hrs a day (full time job status) are people that literally have no life. (sorry, but it's true. I'm not trying to be offensive, but it's sad.You should try and get out more and stop complaining on how things get a bit easier.




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SVX007
Mon Oct 17, 2005 12:09 am
#60






weeee wrote:
1.5 to 2 weeks is what it takes to grind to fulltemplate





sure if your grinding 12+ hours a day, wich those of us who have lives aren,t or in the middle of double xp or a respec period wich we havent been for about 6 months now....






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OSWC
Mon Oct 17, 2005 12:41 am
#61

Oh how easliy the "Vets" forget the dizzy kd bug in Geo yea no spinning going on there or anything or endor 0,0. You assume some of us other Vets forgot about those things but we didn't. The fact is the new Jedi didn't create the system they have to play in so why point fingers be happy you have your uber saber and be done with it. These are the most pathetic posts on this board. Look at me I am uber and you aren't. I am better than you. My daddy can beat up your daddy. Get over yourselves there are more new Jedi than old Jedi deal with it. Like I said not the new Jedi's fault and not the old Jedi's fault you want to point fingers point it in the right direction.



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Summoner321
Mon Oct 17, 2005 12:41 am
#62






THEsmuggla wrote:



I have 2 jedi. Yeah 2.


One i have unlocked prepub 9.....was hard to grind and hard to unlock...but really rewarding in the end!


The second i have unlocked 30 days ago and now i already have a FULL TEMP JEDI....so what remains of the jedi profession?

Its power? No not really...jedi are not that powerful believe me

Its coolness? Well, if you need to have a jedi in SWG to feel cool........you have some problems

Its exclusivity? No more......as you can see i grinded a full temp jedi in 30 days...chatting with 8/10 other jedi...smashing lairs without thinking.



Where is the old good SOLO grind on Endor ?

Where is thatunique feelinginspired by the fact that you were fighting in an hostile planet on your own?

Where is that sense of risk that made the grind exciting?

Where is the adrenaline given by a dot appearing on your radar?



No more emotions in being jedi, no more passion.............no more moral reward.

Because back in the days creating a jedi and grinding it out till full was the proof of your victory against the game itself, now its a mere extra pg that requires no effort.


Unlocking my second jedi gave me some emotion......then i realized how easy was to grind and how common was the process.......no more hiding, no more risk...no more EMOTIONS.


I hope SOE will nerf these spin groups so all of you new padawans can experience what being a Jedi really means.





-Comparative appendix


Post CU

Full-template grinding time: 28 days in spin groups

Max EXP gained in one playing day (8hrs): 3.2 Millions (!!)

BH encountered: 0


Pre CU

Full-template grinding time: 3 months and a half

Max EXP gained in one playing day (8hrs): 950k

BH encountered: 7



I dont think this game will be the new KOTOR in the future.

I am not angry for that.

I am angry with the new system because it does not give the right "emotional" reward for being a jedi...










Message Edited by THEsmuggla on 10-16-2005 01:23 PM



*sigh* just another post CU jedi who thinks he is better than everyone because he did the holo grind. Get this in your head WE ALL PAY 15$ just like you so this whining is unjust and an insult to all of us who are post CU and who don't even have the pearls to get a nice 600+ dps saber. You need to grow up and see that this game is changing in some ways good some ways bad and if you don't like the way this game is going then you have every right to cancel your account and take your money elsewhere.




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Buffaholic
Mon Oct 17, 2005 2:47 am
#63







Srider_Killarney wrote:





THEsmuggla wrote:



I have 2 jedi. Yeah 2.


One i have unlocked prepub 9.....was hard to grind and hard to unlock...but really rewarding in the end!


The second i have unlocked 30 days ago and now i already have a FULL TEMP JEDI....so what remains of the jedi profession?

Its power? No not really...jedi are not that powerful believe me

Its coolness? Well, if you need to have a jedi in SWG to feel cool........you have some problems

Its exclusivity? No more......as you can see i grinded a full temp jedi in 30 days...chatting with 8/10 other jedi...smashing lairs without thinking.



Where is the old good SOLO grind on Endor ?





If u liked it that much, why don't u just do that then?

All u pre pub whatever are really uber in one area:WHINING!

So please, do us all a favour and shut your cakehole and accept that u are all relics from a forgotten time.

You are not better then post CU jedi.

You do not deserve jedi more than post CU jedi.

You are not more respected than post CU jedi.

You did not work harder for jedi than post CU jedi. (well maybe not entirely true but I don't give a fukc! )


Oh and if u want emotions? Delete your pre pub this and that jedi, that should give u some emotions if that's what u want.


Message Edited by Buffaholic on 10-17-2005 11:48 AM

Message Edited by Buffaholic on 10-17-2005 01:39 PM




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Praastep
Mon Oct 17, 2005 4:03 am
#64






Buffaholic wrote:






Srider_Killarney wrote:





THEsmuggla wrote:



I have 2 jedi. Yeah 2.


One i have unlocked prepub 9.....was hard to grind and hard to unlock...but really rewarding in the end!


The second i have unlocked 30 days ago and now i already have a FULL TEMP JEDI....so what remains of the jedi profession?

Its power? No not really...jedi are not that powerful believe me

Its coolness? Well, if you need to have a jedi in SWG to feel cool........you have some problems

Its exclusivity? No more......as you can see i grinded a full temp jedi in 30 days...chatting with 8/10 other jedi...smashing lairs without thinking.



Where is the old good SOLO grind on Endor ?





If u liked it that much, why don't u just do that then?

All u pre pub whatever are really uber in one area:WHINING!

So please, do us all a favour and shut your cakehole and accept that u are all relics from a forgotten time.

You are not better then post CU jedi.

You do not deserve jedi more than post CU jedi.

You are not more respected than post CU jedi.

You did nor work harder for jedi than post CU jedi. (well maybe not entirely true but I don't give a fukc! )


Oh and if u want emotions? Delete your pre pub this and that jedi, that should give u some emotions if that's what u want.


Message Edited by Buffaholic on 10-17-2005 11:48 AM





Spoken like a true 12 year ol.....errrrr......Jedi.



my signature was innapropriate
Buffaholic
Mon Oct 17, 2005 4:14 am
#65






Praastep wrote:





Buffaholic wrote:






Srider_Killarney wrote:





THEsmuggla wrote:



I have 2 jedi. Yeah 2.


One i have unlocked prepub 9.....was hard to grind and hard to unlock...but really rewarding in the end!


The second i have unlocked 30 days ago and now i already have a FULL TEMP JEDI....so what remains of the jedi profession?

Its power? No not really...jedi are not that powerful believe me

Its coolness? Well, if you need to have a jedi in SWG to feel cool........you have some problems

Its exclusivity? No more......as you can see i grinded a full temp jedi in 30 days...chatting with 8/10 other jedi...smashing lairs without thinking.



Where is the old good SOLO grind on Endor ?





If u liked it that much, why don't u just do that then?

All u pre pub whatever are really uber in one area:WHINING!

So please, do us all a favour and shut your cakehole and accept that u are all relics from a forgotten time.

You are not better then post CU jedi.

You do not deserve jedi more than post CU jedi.

You are not more respected than post CU jedi.

You did nor work harder for jedi than post CU jedi. (well maybe not entirely true but I don't give a fukc! )


Oh and if u want emotions? Delete your pre pub this and that jedi, that should give u some emotions if that's what u want.


Message Edited by Buffaholic on 10-17-200511:48 AM






Spoken like a true 12 year ol.....errrrr......Jedi.






Not yet, my birthday is in 2 weeks




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