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Thread: Cloak may be nerfed according to Helios
Heban-Otold wrote:
They need to give us a respec if they do something like this. I understand perhaps not for the BHs, but we would need one because of the time and amount of exp it takes. If this were to happen, it would ruin my template. It's centered around cloak.
IBeDaMaster wrote:
Wouldnt mind cloak being moved to master, but then mls should get something, maybe another advanced hit besides adv. saber throw and derverish. Right now the only things i see bad about cloak are the exploits(attacking while cloaked), people pvp healing, and running through things like the vette untouched. Why should it be moved to master anyways?
You see this guy ^^^^^ ????
This is my enemy on my server. Do I cry nerf because he plays his template? NO! I thank him for showing up to play the damn game when you keep screwing his template over ever two weeks or less.
Fivo Asia
To preface, I'm not Master Powers (heck, I don't have a drop of powers in my template). I'm asking this question ONLY to see if powers users would accept this compromise (not that I have any say in this nerf, AT ALL):
Cloak clouds the minds of your enemy, making them think you're not there, through your use of the force around you and your enemy. This is how I understand it. Please correct me if my impression is off.
Now then, would you as a cloaker accept:
Cloak will not work on inorganic (IE droids) targets, NOT snare you, allow you to heal yourself but NOT forcerun (which takes concentration to use, supposedly), only burstrun like anyone can do.
I'm hearing the arguments from people complaining about cloakers looting Vettes and the DWB. I see the change in effectiveness against droids solving this problem.
I'd love to hear from the cloakers out there. NOT the BH, NOT the MDef that feel others should suffer like us (I'm an MDef, too, and HATE the self snare rule), nor anyone else that cannot discuss this matter rationally. Thanks in advance.
Naeho wrote:
LandonRyuu wrote:
Ranger revamp before Smugglers eh? And I bet this is what the Live team is working on instead of bringing back the FRS LoL.
Didnt smugglers get a revamp to their slicing a while back?
And to all the cloakers, the use of terminals and looting stuff while cloaked was bound to get nerfed.
And how do you know the snare for cloak just makes u move at walking pace (like Mace Windu in Episode 2)
Your all jumping aboard before you even know this has being confirmed, this could all just be BS to get
us to moan and whine.
And why should u be abel to claok while rooted, its obvious someone know ur there in that case. And it
gets boring staring at a root animation which appears to be attached to nothing.
It's not BS dude, the code has already been written by Helios. Blixtev Confirms it on the next page. Blixtev also said that the way cloak works now was NEVER intended.
That also means the Jedi Correspondent was misinformed or didn't know what he was talking about.
WOW....bring back SON-G so we can actually know what the hell is going on. We don't even have a corrospondent anymore
Arcturius wrote:
To preface, I'm not Master Powers (heck, I don't have a drop of powers in my template). I'm asking this question ONLY to see if powers users would accept this compromise (not that I have any say in this nerf, AT ALL):
Cloak clouds the minds of your enemy, making them think you're not there, through your use of the force around you and your enemy. This is how I understand it. Please correct me if my impression is off.
Now then, would you as a cloaker accept:
Cloak will not work on inorganic (IE droids) targets, NOT snare you, allow you to heal yourself but NOT forcerun (which takes concentration to use, supposedly), only burstrun like anyone can do.
I'm hearing the arguments from people complaining about cloakers looting Vettes and the DWB. I see the change in effectiveness against droids solving this problem.
I'd love to hear from the cloakers out there. NOT the BH, NOT the MDef that feel others should suffer like us (I'm an MDef, too, and HATE the self snare rule), nor anyone else that cannot discuss this matter rationally. Thanks in advance.
MLS/MP/Heal 4040 here. Your idea is already how I use cloak now. Certainly I would agree to this. I think many Jedi would.
Unfortunately, that's not what they are proposing. They want to make cloak essentially like Rifleman's cover. Tney want to keep us from healing ourselves. They want to snare us so we can't get away.
The healing nerf crippled my template already. This one proposed change makes my template completely unviable. I thank Sweet Lordy Jesu5 that I still have my token respec.
Or are they getting rid of that, too?
Something everyone (except the DEVS) probbly knows, but hasn't really said...
If you snare a cloaked person, then why would theyeven cloak in the first place?
I mean, if you cloaked vs a BH, and he saw you, wouldn't he just go over and stand on your spot till you used all your force up, re-appeared, then kill you?
Like I said, I think THIS is what people should be getting into the DEVS heads.
You dont really get the point do you?
This is all part of the muchly deserved Ranger Revamp which has taken years tocome to pass. Force Cloak is being fixed not nerfed, to fit in with the proper game mechanics for radar removing abilities.
Maybe you prefer to play a broken game, but a lot of people prefer the fact that SOE seem to be actually addressing the problems with the game at the moment, in a manner they have failed to do before.