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Thread: Why you cant beat BH/CM

DoddsySnach
Thu Sep 22, 2005 12:20 pm
#53

im pretty sure, just lemme think

erm

yeah


you can beat a BH/CM

Knockdown is your friend



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Cibila
Thu Sep 22, 2005 12:27 pm
#54

What if your fighting a Jedi with a perfect saber and his corresponding CA and foods. I bet it will be a good fight. How well prepared you are is everything and how good your equipment is makes a huge difference too

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kgabin
Thu Sep 22, 2005 12:30 pm
#55

im mls menh 4004 healer i have no prob with em



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requiemforadream
Thu Sep 22, 2005 1:07 pm
#56

heh I am master powers 3204 enh 0040 def and 4040 healer

I kill any bh efficiently. I use sap and choke and shoot at them with my kinetic damage wepaon.

they go out of mind under a min

so easy, it is even not fun
CarikJosadsu
Thu Sep 22, 2005 1:36 pm
#57



Here what i do.Follow. Amour break/blind/dizzy/stun/bleed macro. Root as needed.Leg/body/head hit. Repeat the previous. Advanced saber throw for the KD. Power hit. Blah Blah Blah. DB. /love corpse of said dead BH.


Have a nice day.

Message Edited by CarikJosadsu on 09-22-2005 01:37 PM

allproucando
Thu Sep 22, 2005 1:48 pm
#58






Atobe wrote:






allproucando wrote:

Everyone...


You guys are overlooking one main problem... The armorbraek reduction up to 75 percent. It kills the jedi ability to do the damage and couple that with the debuffs from CM, it's a wonder that some of us are able to even survive the fight. I have beaten a few of them before but it is so damn tough because of their suits and debuffs. I eat food and have speed on to try to eliminate the debuffs and as well, have a really good saber dps.


It is the armorsuit with 75 percent armorbreak reduction is what kills us and then they add insult to injury by adding the CM's debuffs. As well, their heal timer is better than ours. Total bs.






Your points are valid with regard to AB reduction-sliced armor, but force choke bypasses all armor, I don't care how goodits AB reductionis.

Message Edited by Atobe on 09-22-2005 04:16 PM




Very true



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cmreeves
Thu Sep 22, 2005 2:37 pm
#59




I have a question for the Jedi in here that have given me some awesome advice pertaining to my template and how to bring down the CM/BH. In your opinion, what mitigates more damage Improved FA or Improved Aura. If I had to I would grind up to Improved Aura, but I need to knowif itis worth it to drop Improved FA for Improved Aura.




Message Edited by cmreeves on 09-22-2005 02:37 PM

Message Edited by cmreeves on 09-22-2005 02:38 PM

Orthell
Thu Sep 22, 2005 2:42 pm
#60



DoddsySnach wrote:
im pretty sure, just lemme think

erm

yeah


you can beat a BH/CM

Knockdown is your friend




I can beat MOST of them, but recently I found the few I couldn't beat are using known exploits on top of all this.

But have you encountered the hardcore ones we described earlier with 7k+ energy resist AB sliced armor, 8-12 buffs stacked (no joke) using capped weapons?

I am REALLY good with my KD timing, but these I couldn't damage enough before my force pool was gone. I know one of them used the cooldown timer bugs for sure along with 2 other exploits. But the other seemed clean, and I couldn't get an AB to stick and wasted alot of force trying to take him down. That combined with him healing over 1k every 2 seconds makes then hard to take down. I know the trick is to outlast their mind, but didn't work with them, and playing too defensive wasn't helping. And I hate using powers 0400 to avoid the death, but I did to stay alive.

But I am still open on this, I've taken some really good ones down with ease, but maybe these were totally legit instead of exploiting macro killers. I've adapted my combat logs so I can now identify those using the exploit and I'll start taking names.







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Gully311
Thu Sep 22, 2005 3:02 pm
#61






Orthell wrote


I can beat MOST of them, but recently I found the few I couldn't beat are using known exploits on top of all this.

But have you encountered the hardcore ones we described earlier with 7k+ energy resist AB sliced armor, 8-12 buffs stacked (no joke) using capped weapons?

I am REALLY good with my KD timing, but these I couldn't damage enough before my force pool was gone. I know one of them used the cooldown timer bugs for sure along with 2 other exploits. But the other seemed clean, and I couldn't get an AB to stick and wasted alot of force trying to take him down. That combined with him healing over 1k every 2 seconds makes then hard to take down. I know the trick is to outlast their mind, but didn't work with them, and playing too defensive wasn't helping. And I hate using powers 0400 to avoid the death, but I did to stay alive.

But I am still open on this, I've taken some really good ones down with ease, but maybe these were totally legit instead of exploiting macro killers. I've adapted my combat logs so I can now identify those using the exploit and I'll start taking names.




This explains a lot, I was playing for weeks with no BH attacks, and now I've got MBH/MCMs all over me constantly. They are very tough to beat. I've had to run for the first time after blowing through all my Force... twice, and his mind had not budged, and I threw a slew of dmg at him, even with my Nerfbat LS.


Something has to be done. I say we scream for a CM nerf. They're overpowered (again) anyway.



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magneto2
Thu Sep 22, 2005 3:12 pm
#62

all u guys yelling at me, about u shouldnt have to go powers to kill one temp....that wasnt my point, i was discussing with someone about powers, its no my fault u cant kill BH with your temp...i cant kill jedi with mine :-P


its all about what u want to do and be good at






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SiNNaTaS
Thu Sep 22, 2005 3:20 pm
#63



magneto2 wrote:

all u guys yelling at me, about u shouldnt have to go powers to kill one temp....that wasnt my point, i was discussing with someone about powers, its no my fault u cant kill BH with your temp...i cant kill jedi with mine :-P

its all about what u want to do and be good at






True true. I was talking with a guildy about moding my template and after about an hour of looking at different templates I finally came to the conclusion that you know what screw it.. I like my template and I play it to be a friken tank.

But your post of MPowers dont have a problem with bh/mcm did IMO come across to in the way of if you want to kill them go powers. So hence my post back to you. But due to your recent post I will just say I think maybe I read to much into your first post.



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magneto2
Thu Sep 22, 2005 3:22 pm
#64

its all good in the hood



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Kodi08
Thu Sep 22, 2005 3:25 pm
#65

I used to never have a problem with CM/BH's because it was always a mind game and I would have the most mind left after they dropped all the dots on me until last night when I found one that was completely using a bug.


The BH came up and sat down and ran his little de-buff macro with the way he set it up he could bypass the paralyze timer and basically perform 2 debuffs and reapply paralyze till he finally got to his deut toss where it will cause him to auto stand and run.


So basically after launching all his buffs he had a full mind bar and I couldn't keep up.


I still feal that any action done to a victum during a paralyze should break it but you know how the masses are, I'm gonna be now known as someone who hates CM's lol (I've had a cm longer them my jedi and I'm a old pre jedi upgrade knight)



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