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Thread: Please stop whining about the old days!

KODAKSTEVENS
Sun Oct 02, 2005 9:27 am
#40






BossEngineer wrote:
There's some pretty wicked weapons being made nowdays too, though there are some sick weapons that seemed to have made it through the CU conversion ... ehnanced. Personally all my sick weapons and armor are as good as scrap now. Just decor on the wall





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JadenKatrell
Sun Oct 02, 2005 9:31 am
#41



TheJehdaeen wrote:
I started playing this game 153 days ago






Been playing 828 days, not counting beta before release, so dont talkd to us about "old days"



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CraZyAsSaSsiN
Sun Oct 02, 2005 9:32 am
#42

i agree



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TheJehdaeen
Sun Oct 02, 2005 9:46 am
#43

now see, thats what I needed. I did mistake some of the things she had told me about the pre-CU. I did not know about the 30 professions thing, and some others. I do take back my comment about pre-CU toughness. You guys did have it much harder. If it took this forum for me to understand that, that should be fine. As far as the comment about embarassing the server and our guild, I thought that was kinda harsh and rude. I was warned you old timers would jump on me for saying anything but I was man enough to say it. I had 2 people agree with me that pre-CU should not be talked about being brought back. It was horrible.


Thats really what my post was posted for: complaining about bringing back stuff from the old days(pre-CU and post-CU stuff). There really is more concern to make the game we have now better and improve on it with what we have to work with. Stop looking in the past and look to the future. You can't beat down someone on here for having misunderstood some key information. I admit I spoke before I had my facts straight but I thouhgt I had. Can't delete what I said, so I can only fix my comment with this one.


And lastly..you still think there are too many jedi? where? sure I know a few and see some runnin around once in a while but get real. the regular professions still greatly outnumber the amount of jedi toons. There may be 100,000 jedi accoutns, but only 100 or so are on at any given time on each server. Don't bring the old ways back, make the present day better with changes.


I'm done...





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iskareot
Sun Oct 02, 2005 9:47 am
#44

You know...kid I see why your jealous of this time we had..


Because of this:


One: pre-9 We had respect.


Two: It was Hard and had risk to match the Risk vs Reward system.


Three: In that time frame it was hard to do anything from grind while teffed to making a saber and hoping it did not crit fail and go poof.


Four:We actully did NOT CRY nerf on each other, in fact we helped each other anytime we could to learn what the heck was going on, we did not understand visibility and how to get it, we had no clue what we were doing but we did learn the hard way, from Server crashes and death to perma death and skill loss in a system it was hard to get those boxes then and it took alot longer then 3 weeks to finish your template lol.


So while I see why your mad and you say blah blah blah this is the new system, I say to you ... Oh and what a FINE SYSTEM IT IS DONT YA THINK?


Now then, if I want to say or talk about the old system then I freaking will when I want to... having some new kid on the block rave about crap now is more a embarssment then anything at this point and you guys have helped make us a joke.. I mean we have PEOPLE THAT WANT NO PVP in JEDI... they dont even want to be hunted , OH but these people want the Knight title.. LOL W T F ????


We have taken a bad turn and 50% of the blame is the people that are here... Now then since your a new account Ill give you some advice, Go play the game... worry less about how things areand play the last year or so of the game and try to enjoy it with friends.


You say stop talking about the old ways??? Well friend, they were 100 times better then now and some of us that were lucky and worked hard then are very very thankful we saw a time where jedi did not cry for nerfs on jedi and we had RESPECT and honor.. we had Risk vs Reward and we had to earn each point of xp in a hostile time and much more dangerous then this easy road now. So as far as I'm concearned I can only wish we could go back to those times, it would filter out alot of people overnight.. that is the best thing about that idea at this rate.





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TheJehdaeen
Sun Oct 02, 2005 9:51 am
#45

please do not mistake me for a "Kid", for which I am far from.



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Armourboy
Sun Oct 02, 2005 10:00 am
#46






TheJehdaeen wrote:

now see, thats what I needed. I did mistake some of the things she had told me about the pre-CU. I did not know about the 30 professions thing, and some others. I do take back my comment about pre-CU toughness. You guys did have it much harder. If it took this forum for me to understand that, that should be fine. As far as the comment about embarassing the server and our guild, I thought that was kinda harsh and rude. I was warned you old timers would jump on me for saying anything but I was man enough to say it. I had 2 people agree with me that pre-CU should not be talked about being brought back. It was horrible.


Thats really what my post was posted for: complaining about bringing back stuff from the old days(pre-CU and post-CU stuff). There really is more concern to make the game we have now better and improve on it with what we have to work with. Stop looking in the past and look to the future. You can't beat down someone on here for having misunderstood some key information. I admit I spoke before I had my facts straight but I thouhgt I had. Can't delete what I said, so I can only fix my comment with this one.


And lastly..you still think there are too many jedi? where? sure I know a few and see some runnin around once in a while but get real. the regular professions still greatly outnumber the amount of jedi toons. There may be 100,000 jedi accoutns, but only 100 or so are on at any given time on each server. Don't bring the old ways back, make the present day better with changes.


I'm done...








I'll just say this and then I'm done as well, out of this entire thread 2 people agreed with you. 2!!! Thats it?


And how do you know it was horrible? You already said you knew nothing about it. Fact is Pre-CU Jedi was extremely fun! I could PvP, PvE, RP, do just about anything solo, grouped, you name it.


There was lots of diversity, anyone else remember when Master Healer was just as viable as MLS, Master Defender, Master Enhancer? Now look at it. I finally had to drop it cause they nerfed it so bad it hamstrung me from both PvE and PvP. And guess what?? now I'm back to grinding again to redo my template, and yes its extremely easy now.


If i chose to I could go forever and not get on the terms, sure wish I had that group visibility back in the day, cause lord knows the solo group/running around Dath alone was loads of fun! (Actually it was but its for dramatic effect )


I made the statement about the guild and making yourself look stupid because your statments were half truths. Its wise to talk to more than one person to get answers because sometimes they could just be guessing



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Dark_Eclipse
Sun Oct 02, 2005 10:07 am
#47


Let him speak his mind........I know he's frustrated. And try my best to help Jehd out. I know he's pissed at exploiters and I know he's pissed at other things in game. many of which we as players have no control over.



Sometimes it just good to rant, no matter how it comes out and comes across to anyone else.....


I'm a Post-pub 9 Jedi, but a Pre-CU Knight.... I never finished the holo-grind because I just couldn't bring myself todo it. And I respect those that did. I ground out XP in the Pre-CU system (both FS and Jedi) and I am so glad that mind numbing grind is gone. Yes, I miss the pre-CU. But there are things I'm glad are gone. I adapted and made due with what I have.


I firmly beleive that if the Dev's would just fix the freaking pearl drops, it would silence at least 80% of the in-fighting.


I know Jehd's biggest gripe is the Combat XP conversion nerf.... I wish they had handled it in a different manner... but they didn't. And it just wasn't imps that did it. I admit, on Tarq it seems prevailent that the buttholes tend to gravitate to the imp side, but across all servers as a general whole, both sides have their exploiters and cheaters, those that do what ever they can to get around the system without caring about those around them and those that it affects no matter what profession they are and no matter if they are Jedi or non-jedi. And those are the people who ruin the game for all of us. And it's easier to just lump everyone together than taking the time to weed out the individuals. We are all guilty of that.....not taking the time to go after the ones actually screwing the rest of us over.


The Jedi profession is a divided profession......divided by playstyles and by templates. Jedi, by concept, was not ment to be balanced to non-jedi.....and not even balanced amongst themselves. Each template Variation of Jedi has it's strengths and weaknesses....and has it place. But I wish we would all learn to work together in some way to further the Jedi profession as a whole, new and old. But Jehd is correct, we have to do it in the NOW and not the THEN. Dev's have made it painfully clear, it will never be like it was, no matter how much we want it to be.


So, don't hold it against Jehd, he's got alot to learn. And even I as a 2 year veteran still has much to learn as well. So lets all try and teach instead of berate and put down. I try and teach those I can, but I can't do it all myself.


And I guess that brings up to another point. I don't know everything....and Jehd came here, to the Jedi forums to learn, and all he saw were complaints and in-fighting. I'm sure as a new player wanting to learn about something they were excited to become was a shock.I wish there was a way to clean up these forums sometimes, but that is wishfull thinking.......



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_Cicero_
Sun Oct 02, 2005 10:12 am
#48




plain and simple they like to whine because Jedi are not UBER anymore. I getting tired of that argument. one day they will change the system again to something not post or pre CU, I vote for a hybrid ofthe D20 game system


clear cut and years of work on balancing


The only way to balance this game if for the dev's to take the Jedi, decide what they want the jedi to be then to balance the rest of the classes to the Jedi.







Message Edited by _Cicero_ on 10-02-2005 10:13 AM

Message Edited by _Cicero_ on 10-02-2005 10:13 AM

TheHoloGuy
Sun Oct 02, 2005 10:17 am
#49






TheJehdaeen wrote:


I'm probably going to make some of ya mad with this post, but I need to say something about the Jedi profession.


First off, STOP WHINING!


The old days are just that, OLD DAYS! There is a new system now so get used to it! And as far as you old jedi's that think that you should be the only jedi on the servers need to shut the hell up. I started playing this game 153 days ago to be a jedi and all you old school jedi are trying to make it so I will never get my initiate status. The jedi nowadays are almost equal to any other profession in game, and thats just not right. It should take 8 people to bring down a jedi. Since it's so friggin hard to be an initiate in these times, respect should be shown for us who are ignoring the extreme nerf and pushing through the village quests. I started to play this game to be a Jedi, not a BH or a Crafter. I'm not going to say names but I know way too many "scared-i-cat" jedi that hardly ever play their toons. If they do they sit in their house or just outside it not wanting to do anything for fear of a BH coming to collect a bounty. **edit**?! If you have a jedi, use it. Stop being a chicken. I plan to play on my jedi constantly, grinding out xp in hopes to become a very powerful jedi.


You cant be to concerned with BH'ers anyway, 9 times our of 10 the jedi always wins! The few BH'ers that do actually manage to kill a jedi are pre-CU chars with pre-CU weapons that have a great advantage over the weapons we can make at this time. I am a MBH myself and have tried 3 times to hunt a jedi with the same results. I care not to hear about how many jedi you've killed as I have killed none. All it takes is a stasis root and you cant do squat while the jedi pummels you into the ground. Usually the jedi will run away at this point. Is this a complaint? Nope. A BH should have to be good to take a Jedi down solo. This is why the Jedi profession is slowly being nerfed to death because BH'ers complain they can never kill a Jedi. Hell, thats why SOE made the new BH npc loot revamp, cause they know you aren't supposed to be able to 1 on 1 a jedi.


Personally I don't care how the old days were, cause I didn't play back then. I play now. Stop living in the past and being so high and mighty on your pre-CU horse. If you dont like the way the game is, stop playing. I'll be glad to take your position as a # on your jedi list. There aren't too many jedi on servers so shut up already!





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JediConsulateTaylor
Sun Oct 02, 2005 10:18 am
#50

Someone get this guy a tissue



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TheHoloGuy
Sun Oct 02, 2005 10:18 am
#51






TheJehdaeen wrote:


I'm probably going to make some of ya mad with this post, but I need to say something about the Jedi profession.


First off, STOP WHINING!


The old days are just that, OLD DAYS! There is a new system now so get used to it! And as far as you old jedi's that think that you should be the only jedi on the servers need to shut the hell up. I started playing this game [B]153[/B] days ago to be a jedi and all you old school jedi are trying to make it so I will never get my initiate status. The jedi nowadays are almost equal to any other profession in game, and thats just not right. It should take 8 people to bring down a jedi. Since it's so friggin hard to be an initiate in these times, respect should be shown for us who are ignoring the extreme nerf and pushing through the village quests. I started to play this game to be a Jedi, not a BH or a Crafter. I'm not going to say names but I know way too many "scared-i-cat" jedi that hardly ever play their toons. If they do they sit in their house or just outside it not wanting to do anything for fear of a BH coming to collect a bounty. **edit**?! If you have a jedi, use it. Stop being a chicken. I plan to play on my jedi constantly, grinding out xp in hopes to become a very powerful jedi.


You cant be to concerned with BH'ers anyway, 9 times our of 10 the jedi always wins! The few BH'ers that do actually manage to kill a jedi are pre-CU chars with pre-CU weapons that have a great advantage over the weapons we can make at this time. I am a MBH myself and have tried 3 times to hunt a jedi with the same results. I care not to hear about how many jedi you've killed as I have killed none. All it takes is a stasis root and you cant do squat while the jedi pummels you into the ground. Usually the jedi will run away at this point. Is this a complaint? Nope. A BH should have to be good to take a Jedi down solo. This is why the Jedi profession is slowly being nerfed to death because BH'ers complain they can never kill a Jedi. Hell, thats why SOE made the new BH npc loot revamp, cause they know you aren't supposed to be able to 1 on 1 a jedi.


Personally I don't care how the old days were, cause I didn't play back then. I play now. Stop living in the past and being so high and mighty on your pre-CU horse. If you dont like the way the game is, stop playing. I'll be glad to take your position as a # on your jedi list. There aren't too many jedi on servers so shut up already!




I did 730 days ago. Go check my acc: rubiburnlorderon on the forums. I think !!! I !!!! can say YOU should be quiet .




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TXwarrior
Sun Oct 02, 2005 10:22 am
#52

Pre-CU was better them the mess we have now. (IMHO)






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