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Thread: Just tuned 92 Pearls...Results inside....
Do you realize at this pace I could farm Krayts here to eternity and still not get near a 700 max damage 9-12 FPC saber? 1 Pearl out of 92 tuned for 99 -8 at that rate I could tune 448 Pearls and still have 4 pearls that are 99 -8. So do I keep farming 896 pearls and 8 pearls that are 99 -8? Keep farming 1792 Pearls and 16 pearls that are 99 -8? You tell me in this system I have to play how many pearls do I need to tune to have a saber like you guys do. You know it is funny that the Krayts are easier these days but pre-cu everyone was dropping bases to tank Krayts so I don't know that it is that much easier to kill Krayts. Look I have been playing as long as anyone so I know what was going on pre-cu I have plenty of Pre-cu Jedi in my guild and on my server that I would help farm with them. I know what went into farming pre cu and post cu and the only real difference is that you could get a good tune pre cu and you can't post cu. For the 4th or 5th time this isn't a post to whine about anything. This post is to provide FACTS and the facts are pretty obvious. Something needs to give. SOE needs to be more creative in their soloutions and not just nerf everything. I think some pre cu Jedi need to go out farm some Krayts and get some crappy tunes then run around with that saber and try and fight a BH maybe they can get some perspective. Yes we all know it is WAAAAY easier to gring Jedi now than it was before but this isn't my fault. I was half done with my template before cu hit so I know what grinding was like pre cu and post cu. I actually prefered the solo grinding pre cu, but SOE doesn't care what I think. Again these results along with the other results need to be brought to the attention of the Devs. If any Pre Cu Jedi has a couple of Back Packs full of tuned pre cu Pearls they want to post the stats so we can compare that is fine by me. If they are comparable then I will /bow and be on my merry way if not then I expect you to do the same.
Bacicca please get these results in front of the Devs some of us took ALOT of our time to bring these results out and we would hope it is not all in vain.
wookieinthemist wrote:
Try this.....Go out pre-cu and kill about 600 canyon, giants and ancients that were a lot harder to kill back then and have 200 or so pearls that were classified as Premium and Flawless and about 99% tuned to approximatly the same as the majority of your good tunes, from 25 to 40 max/min, -3 to -7 FC pre cu so about 50 to 80 dmg, post cu. That was a hell of a lot of work to go through and it in my opinion was much worse back then.
Im not flaming, im trying to make a point and most pre cu jedi will agree, tuning sucked pre cu and it sucks post cu, we just had a longer time period to gather and tune to build a better saber and it will balance out eventually.
Plus i do not believe that the reintroduction of the premium/flawless will make that much more of a difference with the exception of speed bonuses and hopefully SAC reductions.
Have to disagree, took me about a two weeks total to get my near perfect saber Pre-Cu 708 damage 12fc. Krayts may have taken longer but most of us had our alts geared up to krayt hunt. Buddy and I Went out I was using a Speed Capped master Swords/TKM Medic Combo and he a CM/Rifleman. About 5mins to take out a Giant and with solid attack macros you could practicaly afk it.
I dont understand were the "It was so much harder before" comes from?
OSWC wrote:
I seriously think these testing results and the ones done by others should be put in the Devs face because these are hard facts that pearls need to be fixed. This is not a whine post this is just for posting results please don't flame my hard work there are plenty of other posts to flame away on. I am just providing data.
And why would this prove anything other then the system is working? The Devs have stated they dont want everyone to have perfect sabers.... getting better pearls is something all jedi should strive for as a goal, not as an easy go kill 10 krayts solo and get 10 good tunes in a day... the old system didnt work, everyone back pre CU had near perfect sabers.... its much more diverse now.
RAMBOW wrote:
OSWC wrote:
I seriously think these testing results and the ones done by others should be put in the Devs face because these are hard facts that pearls need to be fixed. This is not a whine post this is just for posting results please don't flame my hard work there are plenty of other posts to flame away on. I am just providing data.
And why would this prove anything other then the system is working? The Devs have stated they dont want everyone to have perfect sabers.... getting better pearls is something all jedi should strive for as a goal, not as an easy go kill 10 krayts solo and get 10 good tunes in a day... the old system didnt work, everyone back pre CU had near perfect sabers.... its much more diverse now.
Yes it was becuase the old system was to easy!
But the thing is that why should post cu jedis be 2x weaker then a pre cu jedi.
If all the jedis has a equal chance I wouldnt care at all!
Ockedeho wrote:
wookieinthemist wrote:
Try this.....Go out pre-cu and kill about 600 canyon, giants and ancients that were a lot harder to kill back then and have 200 or so pearls that were classified as Premium and Flawless and about 99% tuned to approximatly the same as the majority of your good tunes, from 25 to 40 max/min, -3 to -7 FC pre cu so about 50 to 80 dmg, post cu. That was a hell of a lot of work to go through and it in my opinion was much worse back then.
Im not flaming, im trying to make a point and most pre cu jedi will agree, tuning sucked pre cu and it sucks post cu, we just had a longer time period to gather and tune to build a better saber and it will balance out eventually.
Plus i do not believe that the reintroduction of the premium/flawless will make that much more of a difference with the exception of speed bonuses and hopefully SAC reductions.
Have to disagree, took me about a two weeks total to get my near perfect saber Pre-Cu 708 damage 12fc. Krayts may have taken longer but most of us had our alts geared up to krayt hunt. Buddy and I Went out I was using a Speed Capped master Swords/TKM Medic Combo and he a CM/Rifleman. About 5mins to take out a Giant and with solid attack macros you could practicaly afk it.
Yeah I agree with you. When the krayt boom came it was so easy to get a perfect saber. Proably take like a month and thats not even over doing it. around 50 pearls maybe.
Now its "IMPOSSIBLE" to get a perfect saber!. I wouldnt care about this if it wasnt that some jedi has a huge advantage over others. And that it is a bonus to the pre cu jedis beucase they had a so much harder grinding is just stupid.
What about the people that started to play when then CU came out? They didnt really have a choice
Message Edited by weeee on 10-17-2005 09:06 PM
wookieinthemist wrote:
Try this.....Go out pre-cu and kill about 600 canyon, giants and ancients that were a lot harder to kill back then and have 200 or so pearls that were classified as Premium and Flawless and about 99% tuned to approximatly the same as the majority of your good tunes, from 25 to 40 max/min, -3 to -7 FC pre cu so about 50 to 80 dmg, post cu. That was a hell of a lot of work to go through and it in my opinion was much worse back then.
Im not flaming, im trying to make a point and most pre cu jedi will agree, tuning sucked pre cu and it sucks post cu, we just had a longer time period to gather and tune to build a better saber and it will balance out eventually.
Plus i do not believe that the reintroduction of the premium/flawless will make that much more of a difference with the exception of speed bonuses and hopefully SAC reductions.
Its funny I was just sitting here reading this thread wondering when the "It was alot harder" would pop up. LoL I seem to rember 90 percent of the jedi huntingthem solo or in a group would run them to bases and let the turrents kill them and another point, they had no resists to sabers at the time, so if it was harder for you lol you wernt doing something right 
pre cu i was soloing them with mpowers msaber and post cu solo'd them with mpowers menhancer and that was without turrent help. I dont rember it being any harder or any easier either way, post or pre.
The guy is just trying to show the law of averages that we are getting and its not factoring to what the devs stated the averages should be. I have tuned 4 premiums since the Breaking and actually had better luck with goodsthen i did with the premiums. If it was me I wouldnt buy any more pearls no matter what the quality is until the devs state they have tried to fix it or its fix'd