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Thread: CSR moves padawan outside of faction base so she can be attacked
Skwall wrote:
Cendoth wrote:
Skwall wrote:
Come on,she ran away into a factional base knowing the BH is of opposite faction. You know that its not intended and that the TEF should carry over into any structure not just a house.
By running away it means getting away and making it into a private structure, or offline.
Get over it, what's going to happen is that same faction BHs are going to attack same faction jedi while combatant, thats it. Stop pulling this crap, then defending it because it's not correct.
What the CSR did wasn't right/wrong, but the player knew this wasn't completely legal. For a BH to have enough time to contact a CSR she must've been in that base a long time, to the point where should should've just logged off.
Point being, 300k xp is nothing, about an hour to 2 hour grinding depending on how slow your group is. Get over it, and move on. Stop defending what doesn't deserve to be.
Bullcrud. If the BH wants to follow a jedi into a factional base they should be combatant or SF. The reason they choose not to be is specifically avoid being shot by turrets/faction npcs and overt players. The road works both way bub.
It's a BH TEF, it should apply to Faction Bases as well.
BH vs. Jedi is meant to be 1 vs. 1. What is a base doing in between that? A base does nothing other than offer no entry. Its as if a BH were to attack an overt jedi. The overt jedi can't recieve any help from other overts of npcs against a BH.
Either way, this will get addressed, the only thing that will happen is that the jedi will get attacked by the same faction rather than the opposite. Is that a better tactic?Is that what you wantonce again?
Message Edited by Cendoth on 09-11-2005 05:00 PM
jonstraf wrote:
Why are people so ignorant? If it was an exploit ('sploit in loser terms) it would have been removed when the houses were. Use common sense. If you are overt and you get attacked by a bh, you should be able to take haven with your faction. It only makes logical sense considering you can be attacked by the opposing faction as well.
Message Edited by jonstraf on 09-11-2005 06:21 PM
That excuse always makes me laugh. "If it was an exploit, they would have fixed it already!"
OMG, shut up already. Idiots. I am quite sure the soldiers in Iraq would NEVER run to their front lines, if being pursued if they felt they needed to. Heck no Bubba! They would run right back into terrorist hands! Yep! If not, they be sploitin yes siree bob!
No wait, no no! Mr Solider you ARE NOT ALLOWED TO RUN TO A US EMBASSY if thats your chance of survival, sorry dude, stand in the street and die.
Yeah, that sounds good. No wait, even better. Solider at the front steps of his base, US Base, US Solider. We're sorry Soldier but Geneal CSR said its exploiting if we allow you to come in...
Some of you guys are the biddest zerolects I have ever seen. If i AM Imperial and there is an imperial base, Its my RIGHT to go into it. And those stormtroopers outside? They sometimes recogize that I AM ONE OF THEIR OWN, YOU KNOW IMPERIAL?
Message Edited by TorqueMonster on 09-11-2005 04:34 PM
Skwall wrote:
Cendoth wrote:
Except 1on1 isnt going on completely anymore. Bounty hunters are learning how to gank jedi again. But you really dont care about logic, you just want to eliminate another way jedi can escape the attack. And faction npcs can attack both sides regardless of a TEF so again I suggest if the BH wants to go into the base he can just go combatant.
You don't know what I do and don't care about. Just because I disapprove of this act I must be a jedi-hating BHer? I'm a pre-CU jedi recently jumped by 2 BHers at once and disposed of them ratehr quickly.
She did a workaround to a system that she knew wasn't correct. Got unlucky and lost 300k xp, get over it. The Bh system has never been as fair as it is now. Try back when groupTEF was around and you could have a 20 person grinding group of Jedi attack the 20 person group of the BHer. Try a system where you had UBER mind dots, and BHers could INTENTIONALY gank a jedi 5 to 1. Try a system where you were Perma-overt and could get ganked by a squad of overt FRS-hungry knights anda BH. Try a system where you could have Deathblow macros running that ended your fight the moment your health was at 0.
Faction is NOT meant to prevent BHers or save jedi. If that were the case then an overt jedi should be able to recieve help from other overts or NPCs during a BH attack.
In regards the manbush, you expect an enemy faction member to go combatant (deal w/ the turrents and the NPCS) then attack the Jedi who did a /sit, /logout 10 minutes ago? You're crazy...
As I said, all you will gain from this is same faction hunting same faction jedi.
Message Edited by Skwall on 09-11-2005 04:21 PM
Then your just plain wrong. Faction is there for a reason and this a completely legitimate use of it. As the previous poster mentioned all the pursuing bh has to do is go combatant.
TorqueMonster wrote:
OMG, shut up already. Idiots. I am quite sure the soldiers in Iraq would NEVER run to their front lines, if being pursued if they felt they needed to. Heck no Bubba! They would run right back into terrorist hands! Yep! If not, they be sploitin yes siree bob!
No wait, no no! Mr Solider you ARE NOT ALLOWED TO RUN TO A US EMBASSY if thats your chance of survival, sorry dude, stand in the street and die.
Yeah, that sounds good. No wait, even better. Solider at the front steps of his base, US Base, US Solider. We're sorry Soldier but Geneal CSR said its exploiting if we allow you to come in...
Some of you guys are the biddest zerolects I have ever seen.
QFE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Message Edited by Cendoth on 09-11-2005 05:35 PM
trajen2 wrote:While grinding, a padawan makes to the safety of a faction base where the pursuing BH could follow if he had been combatant.At the BH's request, the CSR Moves the padawan out of the base to where the BH is. . . she dies and loses 300k jedi xp...sad.
Ha! Classic.
Cendoth wrote:
Skwall wrote:
Cendoth wrote:
Except 1on1 isnt going on completely anymore. Bounty hunters are learning how to gank jedi again. But you really dont care about logic, you just want to eliminate another way jedi can escape the attack. And faction npcs can attack both sides regardless of a TEF so again I suggest if the BH wants to go into the base he can just go combatant.
You don't know what I do and don't care about. Just because I disapprove of this act I must be a jedi-hating BHer? I'm a pre-CU jedi recently jumped by 2 BHers at once and disposed of them ratehr quickly.
She did a workaround to a system that she knew wasn't correct. Got unlucky and lost 300k xp, get over it. The Bh system has never been as fair as it is now. Try back when groupTEF was around and you could have a 20 person grinding group of Jedi attack the 20 person group of the BHer. Try a system where you had UBER mind dots, and BHers could INTENTIONALY gank a jedi 5 to 1. Try a system where you were Perma-overt and could get ganked by a squad of overt FRS-hungry knights anda BH. Try a system where you could have Deathblow macros running that ended your fight the moment your health was at 0.
Faction is NOT meant to prevent BHers or save jedi. If that were the case then an overt jedi should be able to recieve help from other overts or NPCs during a BH attack.
In regards the manbush, you expect an enemy faction member to go combatant (deal w/ the turrents and the NPCS) then attack the Jedi who did a /sit, /logout 10 minutes ago? You're crazy...
As I said, all you will gain from this is same faction hunting same faction jedi.
Message Edited by Skwall on 09-11-2005 04:21 PM
Then your just plain wrong. Faction is there for a reason and this a completely legitimate use of it. As the previous poster mentioned all the pursuing bh has to do is go combatant.
- Rebel Combatant BH attacks Imperial Combatant Jedi. Jedi runs into PVE base, and rebel BH has to take out the turrents and the NPCs before killing the jedi which has by then /sit, /logout.
- Imperial Combatant BH attacks Imperial Combatant Jedi. Jedi runs into PVE base, BH follows and kills his mark.
Which option would you choose? Its only a matter of time....
Also do you care to elaborate how I am "plain wrong?"
As I said, if faction was really there for a "reason" then why can't same faction jedi heal same faction jedi during a BHer attack or vice versa? Take it even a step further into PVE. NPCs won't help you against a krayt dragon unless they themselves get area attacked.
Skwall wrote:
Cendoth wrote:
Skwall wrote:
Cendoth wrote:
Except 1on1 isnt going on completely anymore. Bounty hunters are learning how to gank jedi again. But you really dont care about logic, you just want to eliminate another way jedi can escape the attack. And faction npcs can attack both sides regardless of a TEF so again I suggest if the BH wants to go into the base he can just go combatant.
You don't know what I do and don't care about. Just because I disapprove of this act I must be a jedi-hating BHer? I'm a pre-CU jedi recently jumped by 2 BHers at once and disposed of them ratehr quickly.
She did a workaround to a system that she knew wasn't correct. Got unlucky and lost 300k xp, get over it. The Bh system has never been as fair as it is now. Try back when groupTEF was around and you could have a 20 person grinding group of Jedi attack the 20 person group of the BHer. Try a system where you had UBER mind dots, and BHers could INTENTIONALY gank a jedi 5 to 1. Try a system where you were Perma-overt and could get ganked by a squad of overt FRS-hungry knights anda BH. Try a system where you could have Deathblow macros running that ended your fight the moment your health was at 0.
Faction is NOT meant to prevent BHers or save jedi. If that were the case then an overt jedi should be able to recieve help from other overts or NPCs during a BH attack.
In regards the manbush, you expect an enemy faction member to go combatant (deal w/ the turrents and the NPCS) then attack the Jedi who did a /sit, /logout 10 minutes ago? You're crazy...
As I said, all you will gain from this is same faction hunting same faction jedi.
Message Edited by Skwall on 09-11-2005 04:21 PM
Then your just plain wrong. Faction is there for a reason and this a completely legitimate use of it. As the previous poster mentioned all the pursuing bh has to do is go combatant.
Do you not understand what I'm saying? Ok lets break this down for you, which option would you take if this "tactic" were to stay in place:
- Rebel Combatant BH attacks Imperial Combatant Jedi. Jedi runs into PVE base, and rebel BH has to take out the turrents and the NPCs before killing the jedi which has by then /sit, /logout.
- Imperial Combatant BH attacks Imperial Combatant Jedi. Jedi runs into PVE base, BH follows and kills his mark.
Which option would you choose? Its only a matter of time....
Also do you care to elaborate how I am "plain wrong?"
As I said, if faction was really there for a "reason" then why can't same faction jedi heal same faction jedi during a BHer attack or vice versa? Take it even a step further into PVE. NPCs won't help you against a krayt dragon unless they themselves get area attacked.
Let me explain then. Faction healing and helping was removed to prevent gank squads. If a same faction BH hunts you and chases you into a base then theres no help. I would certainly make sure everyone I know knew that this BH was a trashy same faction hunter but would otherwise say nothing to the BH. BOOHOO THE OPPOSITE FACTION BH CANT GET THE JEDI CUZ OF TURRETS. Let me shed another tear. Thats how faction works my friend. Any overt player can do the same thing to a opposite overt chasing em. Why do BHs get to circumvent that. Your a moron I'm not responding to your posts anymore. Go back and read the post that I QFEd.
Cendoth wrote:
TorqueMonster wrote:
OMG, shut up already. Idiots. I am quite sure the soldiers in Iraq would NEVER run to their front lines, if being pursued if they felt they needed to. Heck no Bubba! They would run right back into terrorist hands! Yep! If not, they be sploitin yes siree bob!
No wait, no no! Mr Solider you ARE NOT ALLOWED TO RUN TO A US EMBASSY if thats your chance of survival, sorry dude, stand in the street and die.
Yeah, that sounds good. No wait, even better. Solider at the front steps of his base, US Base, US Solider. We're sorry Soldier but Geneal CSR said its exploiting if we allow you to come in...
Some of you guys are the biddest zerolects I have ever seen.
QFE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Now wait and watch them try and explain why this should be stopped anyways in technical terms.
Message Edited by Cendoth on 09-11-2005 05:35 PM
This game doesn't have to "make sense" this is just a game. If you've seen movies like "tears of the sun" or "hotel ruwanda," then you'd see how close those things happen to what you explain. Maybe not same faction soldiers but those that need the help...
or like those russian soldiers trapped on that nuclear submarine a couple years ago in which the government basically neglected any help because of their "precious technology?"
Anyways, from a role play perspective, Vader wouldn't support Imperial Jedi. He'd probbaly tell the Stormtroopers to open fire on any factional jedi, but then again that is role playing. Of course we're glad its not that way, but thats the way it should be. But we all very well know that role play and contunuity aren't and issue in SWG. So hypothetical situations aren't either.
Almost along the same lines as how you can outrange a turrent w/ robot arms opposed to the installation hitting you. Not very logical, but still a game...
Message Edited by Skwall on 09-11-2005 05:02 PM
TorqueMonster wrote:
OMG, shut up already. Idiots. I am quite sure the soldiers in Iraq would NEVER run to their front lines, if being pursued if they felt they needed to. Heck no Bubba! They would run right back into terrorist hands! Yep! If not, they be sploitin yes siree bob!
No wait, no no! Mr Solider you ARE NOT ALLOWED TO RUN TO A US EMBASSY if thats your chance of survival, sorry dude, stand in the street and die.
Yeah, that sounds good. No wait, even better. Solider at the front steps of his base, US Base, US Solider. We're sorry Soldier but Geneal CSR said its exploiting if we allow you to come in...
Some of you guys are the biddest zerolects I have ever seen. If i AM Imperial and there is an imperial base, Its my RIGHT to go into it. And those stormtroopers outside? They sometimes recogize that I AM ONE OF THEIR OWN, YOU KNOW IMPERIAL?
Message Edited by TorqueMonster on 09-11-2005 04:34 PM
Um, whatever happened to "AllJedi are enemies of the Republic"? And don't you know that in the mission description on some Jedi missions, it says "The Empire has no need for Jedi of any faction"? They'd shoot you, too!