Jedi Archive
Thread: Best Jedi template to deal with MBH/MCM
Jacella
Mon Sep 12, 2005 3:23 pm
#40
Cybertor wrote:
I don't understand why you think it is right for this to be happning to jedi.
Because we aren't n00bs. If you want to duel, go somewhere that you can control the onlookers. You duel in the open, you can and will be killed.
Jacella
Mon Sep 12, 2005 3:24 pm
#41
Jive17 wrote:
The way some people respond to others posts on here is exactly why Jedi players have a bad rep. This entire forum reads like a giant pissing & whiningcontest written by children. Can we try to be respectful to everyone opinions and Ideas please?
I tried, but that didn't get through either.
Cybertor
Mon Sep 12, 2005 3:24 pm
#42
NoStyleGuy wrote:
Cybertor wrote:
p897t98 wrote:
Checobacca wrote:
I found out the answer. It is MCM/MBH yes i am serious this is currently the strongest template in the game except for mrifles/mcm. I am a full temp jedi and didnt last more than a few minutes. the thyroid thing screws up everything and they out heal me. This game is quite unbalanced I feel like scrapping my Jedi for a MBH/MCM myself maybe soo I will get to hunt other BHs.
I also think the Jedi community should not stop adding to this problem because we are suppose to be atleast 1.5 times stronger and we arent
Master Healer, Master Defencer, 0404 Sabers is the best pvp template I ever did, I just couldnt regen force so I switched.
Sure healer has no defence, neither does Lightsaber or powers, Im not seeing your point.
Enhancer and Defender has the defense 99% of jedi use in their template. If Healer/Sabers had some of this defense, It would make healer a good template.
you mean a template that had awsome Power and defense for Normal duels, and Awsome State control/debuffs for Fighitng BH/MCM? Sounds like sombody wants an i-win button. You can't have ur cake and eat it too
Excuse me but you play on ahazi. You have seen the i-win buttons of this game pre cu. What i am saying will never compare to anything we will ever see in this game. Stallone's rifle....1400 damage stun bats... 2500 mind tick pioson. That is i-win button ok. Dont' tell me that giving sabers/powers/healer a little defense is going to make an iwin button for jedi. Atm normies have gained 200% ability to take on jedi, so your being here isn't neccesary.
Cybertor
Mon Sep 12, 2005 3:26 pm
#43
Jacella wrote:
Cybertor wrote:
I don't understand why you think it is right for this to be happning to jedi.
Because we aren't n00bs. If you want to duel, go somewhere that you can control the onlookers. You duel in the open, you can and will be killed.
This isn't just about duels. What about pve and pvp. THAT"S EVERYTHING. all i'm saying is getting db'd while ur incap'd and the bh has done nothing is pretty lame and shouldn't be happening.
p897t98
Mon Sep 12, 2005 3:26 pm
#44
Cybertor wrote:
NoStyleGuy wrote:
Cybertor wrote:
p897t98 wrote:
Checobacca wrote:
I found out the answer. It is MCM/MBH yes i am serious this is currently the strongest template in the game except for mrifles/mcm. I am a full temp jedi and didnt last more than a few minutes. the thyroid thing screws up everything and they out heal me. This game is quite unbalanced I feel like scrapping my Jedi for a MBH/MCM myself maybe soo I will get to hunt other BHs.I also think the Jedi community should not stop adding to this problem because we are suppose to be atleast 1.5 times stronger and we arent
Master Healer, Master Defencer, 0404 Sabers is the best pvp template I ever did, I just couldnt regen force so I switched.
Sure healer has no defence, neither does Lightsaber or powers, Im not seeing your point.
Enhancer and Defender has the defense 99% of jedi use in their template. If Healer/Sabers had some of this defense, It would make healer a good template.
you mean a template that had awsome Power and defense for Normal duels, and Awsome State control/debuffs for Fighitng BH/MCM? Sounds like sombody wants an i-win button. You can't have ur cake and eat it too
Excuse me but you play on ahazi. You have seen the i-win buttons of this game pre cu. What i am saying will never compare to anything we will ever see in this game. Stallone's rifle....1400 damage stun bats... 2500 mind tick pioson. That is i-win button ok. Dont' tell me that giving sabers/powers/healer a little defense is going to make an iwin button for jedi. Atm normies have gained 200% ability to take on jedi, so your being here isn't neccesary.
What is stopping you making your alt as uber as them ?
Cybertor
Mon Sep 12, 2005 3:27 pm
#45
p897t98 wrote:
Its just a stupid idea really, i mean, so if a BH roll up, its pointless to attack unless you have over 50% health. Waht does he do ? sit there and ask you to heal so he can attack. Please just think, think about other people, and think about balance, think about game mechanics, just think lol.
Something should be changed. You think about that. After you have thought this through plz tell me what is the best idea for this. Keeping it the same is not an option.
NoStyleGuy
Mon Sep 12, 2005 3:28 pm
#46
the whole 51% thing will never fly.
what if its PvP and 10 ppl do 10% dmg each? nobody can Deathblow!
What if im a BH and my mark just has 2 or 3 of his dueling pals dmg him?
Its not your right to Duel undistracted in the middle of a populated area.
If you took on the responsibility of being a jedi, you took on the responsibility of being hunted. End of Story.
what if its PvP and 10 ppl do 10% dmg each? nobody can Deathblow!
What if im a BH and my mark just has 2 or 3 of his dueling pals dmg him?
Its not your right to Duel undistracted in the middle of a populated area.
If you took on the responsibility of being a jedi, you took on the responsibility of being hunted. End of Story.
Cybertor
Mon Sep 12, 2005 3:28 pm
#47
p897t98 wrote:
Cybertor wrote:
NoStyleGuy wrote:
Cybertor wrote:
p897t98 wrote:
Checobacca wrote:
I found out the answer. It is MCM/MBH yes i am serious this is currently the strongest template in the game except for mrifles/mcm. I am a full temp jedi and didnt last more than a few minutes. the thyroid thing screws up everything and they out heal me. This game is quite unbalanced I feel like scrapping my Jedi for a MBH/MCM myself maybe soo I will get to hunt other BHs.
I also think the Jedi community should not stop adding to this problem because we are suppose to be atleast 1.5 times stronger and we arent
Master Healer, Master Defencer, 0404 Sabers is the best pvp template I ever did, I just couldnt regen force so I switched.
Sure healer has no defence, neither does Lightsaber or powers, Im not seeing your point.
Enhancer and Defender has the defense 99% of jedi use in their template. If Healer/Sabers had some of this defense, It would make healer a good template.
you mean a template that had awsome Power and defense for Normal duels, and Awsome State control/debuffs for Fighitng BH/MCM? Sounds like sombody wants an i-win button. You can't have ur cake and eat it too
Excuse me but you play on ahazi. You have seen the i-win buttons of this game pre cu. What i am saying will never compare to anything we will ever see in this game. Stallone's rifle....1400 damage stun bats... 2500 mind tick pioson. That is i-win button ok. Dont' tell me that giving sabers/powers/healer a little defense is going to make an iwin button for jedi. Atm normies have gained 200% ability to take on jedi, so your being here isn't neccesary.
What is stopping you making your alt as uber as them ?
This post wasn't directed to you keep on topic.
Cybertor
Mon Sep 12, 2005 3:29 pm
#48
NoStyleGuy wrote:
the whole 51% thing will never fly.
what if its PvP and 10 ppl do 10% dmg each? nobody can Deathblow!
What if im a BH and my mark just has 2 or 3 of his dueling pals dmg him?
Its not your right to Duel undistracted in the middle of a populated area.
If you took on the responsibility of being a jedi, you took on the responsibility of being hunted. End of Story.
Then like i said in my last post. Something has to be changed, put urself in the position of a dev. Getting db'd by bh's in a duel is not good content nor is it good gameplay for the "JEDI=Money for soe." So come up with a good enough fix for this happneing then.
Jacella
Mon Sep 12, 2005 3:30 pm
#49
A good MBH will wait until you are weakest to attack. If you are weak in the open, you must expect the attack. I don't mean to belittle you (too much), but if you can't deal with the simple facts of the way the game is and the risks associated with being a Jedi, then you need to just play your alt, stop pvping in starports, watch your radar, or delete your jedi. The vast majority of jedi have zero problems with the way the BH/Jedi thing is set up. I would go so far to say that more jedi want names and payouts to be reinstated along with keeping faction.
Cybertor wrote:
This isn't just about duels. What about pve and pvp. THAT"S EVERYTHING. all i'm saying is getting db'd while ur incap'd and the bh has done nothing is pretty lame and shouldn't be happening.
Cybertor
Mon Sep 12, 2005 3:33 pm
#50
Jacella wrote:
A good MBH will wait until you are weakest to attack. If you are weak in the open, you must expect the attack. I don't mean to belittle you (too much), but if you can't deal with the simple facts of the way the game is and the risks associated with being a Jedi, then you need to just play your alt, stop pvping in starports, watch your radar, or delete your jedi. The vast majority of jedi have zero problems with the way the BH/Jedi thing is set up. I would go so far to say that more jedi want names and payouts to be reinstated along with keeping faction.
Cybertor wrote:
This isn't just about duels. What about pve and pvp. THAT"S EVERYTHING. all i'm saying is getting db'd while ur incap'd and the bh has done nothing is pretty lame and shouldn't be happening.
The problem I see in your post is this. A good MBH will wait until you are weakest to attack The point i'm saying is that the bh never attacked. He db's the target and gains money. This isn't right. It's almost like saying, it's ok to get missions on the terminal and go to the lair hit it once and recieve full payout. Is this not the same thing? Well it's not becase bh's get more money for doing nothing.
p897t98
Mon Sep 12, 2005 3:33 pm
#51
Ive been DB during PvE, and PvP, It happens. Its not a problem, if you are finished template, Xp is not an issue, if you arnt finished template and you are PvPing/dueling, you deserve the XP loss. It was a problem when you were PvPing, raiding a town and they had a squad of covert zerging BHs. Now, I really dont see what the problem is.
NoStyleGuy
Mon Sep 12, 2005 3:34 pm
#52
Cybertor wrote:
NoStyleGuy wrote:
the whole 51% thing will never fly.
what if its PvP and 10 ppl do 10% dmg each? nobody can Deathblow!
What if im a BH and my mark just has 2 or 3 of his dueling pals dmg him?
Its not your right to Duel undistracted in the middle of a populated area.
If you took on the responsibility of being a jedi, you took on the responsibility of being hunted. End of Story.
Then like i said in my last post. Something has to be changed, put urself in the position of a dev. Getting db'd by bh's in a duel is not good content nor is it good gameplay for the "JEDI=Money for soe." So come up with a good enough fix for this happneing then.
well its too bad that whole "jedi = money" thing is true because thats the only thing that will change this.
A BH can hunt by any means nessicary, to obtain a DB. When jabba contracts boba fett to find Han solo he dosesn't tell him to "announce himself and fight".
When Vader contracts all the BH's on his ship, he doesn't tell them to "put up a good fight"
when jango fett hires zam wessel to kill padme, he doesn't say "fight her to the death"
we get paied for The death of our mark. not the fight. we are not boxers.
You want to stand in theed and get visiblity while dueling your guildies? FINE
but realize theres probably a BH after you right then.
If the master equation of this game wasn't "JEDI = MONEY" than the jedi would have it alot harder. like Pre-CU