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Thread: Best Jedi template to deal with MBH/MCM
p897t98 wrote:
Cybertor wrote:
p897t98 wrote:
and about being 1.5x powerful
Is LS 1.5x more damaging ? Probably
Is Defender 1.5x better at tanking ? Probably
Is Enhancer 1.5x better at crowd control ? yes
Is healer 1.5x better at healing ? yes
You cant have the best of everything, no you will not be 1.5x better than EVERYONE at EVERYTHING.
healer is not better. I duno if u noticed but there's a 6 second timer on all force healing. I dont' mind the timer but even it up a little 6 second for nov healer/5 seconds for next two boxes and so on. So ppl with 4000 healer would heal every 4 seconds. Master healers would heal every 2 seconds. Sounds fair enough to me.
The heal in the master box is sweet,heals all states, wounds and damage, so you can heal, i dunno, lets say 5000 health with a healthbuff crystal, buffs and foods/spice, 5000 health every 6 seconds, I think thats the best healing in the game, thanks !
Message Edited by p897t98 on 09-12-2005 03:10 PM
no the best healing in the game is CM/Doc Healing. Comparing Jedi healing to this is a joke if you take into account the cost associated with all the heals
Jive17 wrote:
I do agree that a BH should not be able toDB you if he/she did not actually incap you. The solution is easy, just make it so that a player can't DB another unless he/she has actually done at least 51% of the damage that resulted in the incap.
QFE, This would make it so that the BH still has "content"
Content defined as, stil being able to sneak up on their target. I was saying in my other post just to simply make them red con to their targets but your suggestion is better. Just have to wait for another 4 months for soe to get this programming into the game lol
p897t98 wrote:
So 10 players attack you and noone can DB you ? yeah that works !
I dont know what the problem is, if you are dueling in the open, then really you cant be caring about xp loss.
This would all be included in the program. 51% would only apply the BH. Solving the problem with jedi engaged in pve/pvp.
Jive17 wrote:
I do agree that a BH should not be able toDB you if he/she did not actually incap you. The solution is easy, just make it so that a player can't DB another unless he/she has actually done at least 51% of the damage that resulted in the incap.
that is so exploitable its not funny. Since jedi dont get xploss for PvP, or PvE death. I attack a jedi - he runs into a heard of pickets and spams AoE. Bam hes dead.
I attack a jedi, He/duels a groupie who Armorbreak, KD, (jedi combo for alot of damage) and i can't win.
the job of a BH is not to fight but to get the deathblow. Thats just how it works.
Jacella wrote:
MLS/Enh 3002/Def 4040/heal 4040 = MCM killer
MLS/Enh 3002/Def 4440/ Heal 4000 = MCM Killer
MLS/Mpower/Heal 4000 (not sure about points)= MCM Killer
MPow/Menh Heal 4000 = MCM Killer
ANYTHING BUT MDEF OR HEALER WITHOUT MLS
Cybertor wrote:
Jacella wrote:
Cybertor wrote:
you think bh's that come up and db u while ur incap'd after a duel is good?
Yes...it's called Darwinism. If you are retarded enough to duel in the open, when there are potential Bounty Hunters watching you, then you should be killed. They are there to make credits. Their job is to Deathblow you, not to fight you. If you make it easy for them, then tough %$&^
If taking a mission on a jedi player is not suppose to be a fight then why did soe just make it so BH"s had to aquire mbh to take them.?
Dueling is retarded "quoted by Jacella"
Dueling or pvping. It is a part of the game and asa Jedi Knight I prefer to play the game pvping. Not waiting for a bh to come and then why they do come they turn around and drop the mission. The game should not be like that. lf the BH takes the mission, they should be rdy to fight. Not just come up and DB someone because their target was incap'd.
OK...first off, brainchild, a quote is a word for word thing, not selective.
Was said an included in the quoted above your statement was "If you are retarded enough to duel in the open, when there are potential Bounty Hunters watching you, then you should be killed."
That being said, Bounty Hunters are hunting bounties (aka a mission to kill someone for money). They get paid for a Deathblow, not the actual fight, incap or whatever. The Deathblow is what causes the payout. If you are going to have your friend do their work for you, then why do they need to fight? You serve yourself up on a platter for them. You are not a very smart person.
p897t98 wrote:
Checobacca wrote:
I found out the answer. It is MCM/MBH yes i am serious this is currently the strongest template in the game except for mrifles/mcm. I am a full temp jedi and didnt last more than a few minutes. the thyroid thing screws up everything and they out heal me. This game is quite unbalanced I feel like scrapping my Jedi for a MBH/MCM myself maybe soo I will get to hunt other BHs.
I also think the Jedi community should not stop adding to this problem because we are suppose to be atleast 1.5 times stronger and we arent
Master Healer, Master Defencer, 0404 Sabers is the best pvp template I ever did, I just couldnt regen force so I switched.
Sure healer has no defence, neither does Lightsaber or powers, Im not seeing your point.
p897t98 wrote:
Like i said, if you are PvPing or dueling, then you cant be bothered about xp loss. You people dont think outside the jedi box, you just think what can benefit you.
This is not about me, This is about the game in general. If 51% damage was put into the game for BH's to deathblow their target it would change a lot of things. Getting deathblown in pvp or dueling by a bh when they have done nothing to successfully achieve that money for the mission is my problem. I care nothing about xp. It's about money they are getting for something they never did.
Message Edited by p897t98 on 09-12-2005 03:21 PM
Cybertor wrote:
p897t98 wrote:
Checobacca wrote:
I found out the answer. It is MCM/MBH yes i am serious this is currently the strongest template in the game except for mrifles/mcm. I am a full temp jedi and didnt last more than a few minutes. the thyroid thing screws up everything and they out heal me. This game is quite unbalanced I feel like scrapping my Jedi for a MBH/MCM myself maybe soo I will get to hunt other BHs.I also think the Jedi community should not stop adding to this problem because we are suppose to be atleast 1.5 times stronger and we arent
Master Healer, Master Defencer, 0404 Sabers is the best pvp template I ever did, I just couldnt regen force so I switched.
Sure healer has no defence, neither does Lightsaber or powers, Im not seeing your point.
Enhancer and Defender has the defense 99% of jedi use in their template. If Healer/Sabers had some of this defense, It would make healer a good template.
you mean a template that had awsome Power and defense for Normal duels, and Awsome State control/debuffs for Fighitng BH/MCM? Sounds like sombody wants an i-win button. You can't have ur cake and eat it too