Jedi Archive
Thread: Does anyone realize that the template that beats Jedi 9/10 times only requires 3 novice trees?
I've taken a poll on these forums and most of the jedi on the poll claim to have never been beaten by a bounty hunter. The rest lost rarely and only 1 or 2 lost more than they won. You can look the post up on this forum if you like.
Jedi are too numerous and the penalties against Jedi have been so very marginalized that I think they really cannot be that powerful anymore for balance and gameplay reasons. Yet still most feel that the majority of bounty hunters are not a threat at all.
Ifum wrote:
RIS is 15 mil on my server, ADK all that. Cap pistol mods, CM and healing Mods. 10 mil on a decent Scatter, ADK that. Then you can start beating some Jedi
lets see I have Health Enhanced armor......3 mil......3 adks for head/chest and legs= 63 million.E11 double capped Enhanced Carbine........ 2 million + ADK = 23 million
Proton Carbine .......................................1 Million + ADK = 21 Million
+25 Carbine Speed..................................2 Million (500k per +5)
+25 Carbine Defence...............................2 Million (500k per +5)
+25 Carbine Accuracy...............................2 Million (500k per +5) btw I got really lucky on these skill tapes
+25 General Ranged Accuracy.................2 Million (500k per +5)
+20 Terrain Negotion, +25 Healing Efficency, +25 Ranged Defense, +20 Melee Defense...........call it free.
Now that is about 115 million credits just so I can try and fight a Jedi. I would assume that food, drink, stim packs, enhancers, powerups, vehicles, droids, and the 75% armor break slice on all 7 pieces of armor ( which may costs as much as 3 million on Intrepid due to the limited shcok padding) are not included in this estimate.
What do you say to that.
What do we say about that? lol your kidding right? 115 mil? ok 4 pearls cost at least 120 mil for premiums (that no longer drop) and many 1-5 mil lower quality crystals or pearls which jedi buy many many to tune that end up as garbage.
then just to get great resources to build your saber your paying a few mil for 30k resource deeds or a few mil to a resource dealer to get the resources and oh ya the ever needed ADK for the saber another 20 - 30 mil depending on server. So basically most jedi spend more credits on there saber alone than most BH do on there equipment,
I have a fully temp jedi and a MBH/MCM so I know the costs of both and BH dont even come close to what jedi have to spend just to keep from losing from a BH.
Message Edited by Ifum on 09-26-200511:09 PM
Message Edited by Ifum on 09-26-200511:09 PM
Message Edited by Ifum on 09-26-2005 11:10 PM
I spent months grinding pearls, tuned countless premiums/flawless. Cost me nothing. My BH has cost me a fortune so far, and im no where near finished.
What do we say about that? lol your kidding right? 115 mil? ok 4 pearls cost at least 120 mil for premiums (that no longer drop) and many 1-5 mil lower quality crystals or pearls whichjedi buy many many to tune that end up as garbage.
then just to get great resources to build your saber your paying a few mil for 30k resource deeds or a few mil to a resource dealer to get the resources and oh ya the ever needed ADK for the saber another 20 - 30 mil depending on server. So basically most jedi spend more credits on there saber alone than most BH do on there equipment,
I have a fully temp jedi and a MBH/MCM so I know the costs of both and BH dont even come close to what jedi have to spend just to keep from losing from a BH.
4 pearls now may cost 25 mil, but any smart jedi should be purchasing 20-25 good crystals and for 25 million and going for the 100-110 tune on them, and I do understand that the action costs will be higher than a Pearl Saber.
On most servers it will only cost you 100k to get an UBER resource kit to make a Light Saber.
If I were a retard and spent 100 million credits on a set of Power cells that does not make my weapon worth 100 million.
ALMOST any jedi with a basic saber 450 min to 500 min Aura and Valor can kick the crap out any BH if he uses his brain and that will not cost him 115 million.
Tripbacca wrote:Oh so investigation 1 - 4 is easy then?
I suppose getting top or the range weapons/armour is too... no wait your thinking like a jedi you can MAKE your own weapon oh and you dont NEED armour.
Hmm what else....nah Im done.
shoot, i did invest 1-4 in one day...not hard at all. longest part was master otherwise took two 5 hour seesions to complete bh. should be more defense with sabers and innate armor for armor breaks and deflections. Bh and commando should be made to hunt/kill jedi and should be a extra class for melee builds similar to coomando/bh too so they can hunt jedi as well. well i've opened a new can o'worms..............
They're jedi. They kick butt. Repeatedly, with grace and ease.
You want balance, line up a rebel jedi vs. an imperial.
I don't hear the CL 1 architects whining that they can't beat up on a jedi. Or a TKM. Or a novice marksman. If you want to compete against jedi, become one. If you don't, play WoW.
What part of "star wars" did you miss when you read the box in the store?
where did you find top of the line armor and weapons for 10 mil? i've spend about 250m on my bh gear so i can take down even the strongest of jedi. if i can get the same quality for only 10mil, please tell me where!
Tarja- wrote:
Tripbacca wrote:
Oh so investigation 1 - 4 is easy then?
I suppose getting top or the range weapons/armour is too... no wait your thinking like a jedi you can MAKE your own weapon oh and you dont NEED armour.
Hmm what else....nah Im done.
one if the dumbest people ive ever seen lol. yes, investigation is easy, takes a few hours w/ an xp buff and jamming terminals. top of the line weapons and armor cost 10 mill tops, ONE premium cost 30 milll my one pearl is more expensive than your entire armor break sliced caped energy layered armor and caped weapon that cost 1 mill to make after you already get the easily looted high end components.
1 week tops to fully template, loot enough to sell to buy armor and loot some power cells and or casings.
Haywood wrote:
What do we say about that? lol your kidding right? 115 mil? ok 4 pearls cost at least 120 mil for premiums (that no longer drop) and many 1-5 mil lower quality crystals or pearls whichjedi buy many many to tune that end up as garbage.
then just to get great resources to build your saber your paying a few mil for 30k resource deeds or a few mil to a resource dealer to get the resources and oh ya the ever needed ADK for the saber another 20 - 30 mil depending on server. So basically most jedi spend more credits on there saber alone than most BH do on there equipment,
I have a fully temp jedi and a MBH/MCM so I know the costs of both and BH dont even come close to what jedi have to spend just to keep from losing from a BH.
4 pearls now may cost 25 mil, but any smart jedi should be purchasing 20-25 good crystals and for 25 million and going for the 100-110 tune on them, and I do understand that the action costs will be higher than a Pearl Saber.
On most servers it will only cost you 100k to get an UBER resource kit to make a Light Saber.
If I were a retard and spent 100 million credits on a set of Power cells that does not make my weapon worth 100 million.
ALMOST any jedi with a basic saber 450 min to 500 min Aura and Valor can kick the crap out any BH if he uses his brain and that will not cost him 115 million.
It takes more than 1 resource to craft a saber FYI. ADKs on my server are 25mill+.. Let's see..................
+25 saber speed(which is broke butmost jedi gets for preparation) 1-3 mill per pt 25-75mill
+25 saber accuracy 1-3 mill per point 25-75 mill
+25 gen melee speed 1-3 mill per point 25-75 mill
+15 gen melee accuracy (we'll give 10 for PSG) 1-3 mill per point 15-45 mill
8 ADKs for Suit 200mill+ ( I am aware that broken modded clothing still work but we all know this can and will most likely be taken away without notice)
Premiums 30 mill each......"Good" cannot compare to premium
enough said i think
TraceAntilles wrote:
Isn't it pathetic how a template that only requires three novice trees, one in medic, marksman and scout, is somehow able to match a fight with a Jedi template that takes at least 6 months just to get and even longer to complete???
There is something awfully sick about that and definitely unbalanced.
Stop crying and learn to PVP.
I've been beaten once in1 yearby BH's, and that was only because I faced 2 MCM's at once....even then I kept them going, with droids, for over 25 minutes. And no, I don't have an all perfect tune saber. In fact, I know several post CU jedi with almost as good sabers as me.
Just because you (probably) chose a template which has all the flashy force run/cloak/lightning moves is probably why you get beaten. Get one that's all out damage and defences, and THEN come back and whine about "waa BH is better than me"...
grayoberon wrote:
I'm waiting for someone to explain why jedi has to be balanced with the other professions.
They're jedi. They kick butt. Repeatedly, with grace and ease.
You want balance, line up a rebel jedi vs. an imperial.
I don't hear the CL 1 architects whining that they can't beat up on a jedi. Or a TKM. Or a novice marksman. If you want to compete against jedi, become one. If you don't, play WoW.
What part of "star wars" did you miss when you read the box in the store?
Mythrindir wrote:
umkay..as opposed to jedi which technically (very technically) requires none...and takes 2 weeks rather than 6 months.
well it took me 8-9months, month or 2 on village and 6 moths grind. and even the new jedi it will take longer than 2 weeks
runs until 3/12/06
yup, few days max. very easy with base slicing
Tripbacca wrote:
Oh so investigation 1 - 4 is easy then?
I suppose getting top or the range weapons/armour is too... no wait your thinking like a jedi you can MAKE your own weapon oh and you dont NEED armour.
Hmm what else....nah Im done.
stefwright wrote:
yup, few days max. very easy with base slicing
Tripbacca wrote:
Oh so investigation 1 - 4 is easy then?
I suppose getting top or the range weapons/armour is too... no wait your thinking like a jedi you can MAKE your own weapon oh and you dont NEED armour.
Hmm what else....nah Im done.
I took my jedi's alt MBH MCM Carbines 0400 in 5 days... Investigation took 2 days.I did not grind that hard either. It was hella easy.