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Thread: Looking for feedback on those with temp MLS/DEF 4440/ENH 3xx2/HEALER 4xxx

lilceaser
Thu Sep 15, 2005 4:31 pm
#27

i have had this template for about 2 months now and imo it is one of the top 3 templates in the game. in pvp i have not lost one on one to another profession or jedi at all unless they had the same template as me. there is many benefits to this template 1500heals,force speed2,force aura etc. with force speed 2 and master sabers you have top notch speed and accuracy all the time which in my opinion is a must for pvp. this template has very few if any weaknesses. root and snare is great as well. i don't think i could ever change my template for anything else unless i do 4040 def 3402 enhancer to get the force armor 2..which i have been considering for a while. with my bio clothing i have over 200 melee/range defenses over 200 accuracy 100 saber speed with all the right foods can increase defenses accuracy tremendously. anyways..i do not think you will be dissapointed but i have to admit at times in extended pvp or pve force pool gets low but it takes me about 2min to channel my force bar so thats not too bad just vulnerable for a few....anyways good luck to you.




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Thorkahn
Thu Sep 15, 2005 4:44 pm
#28

Awesome thread peeps.


Good info and I too am going for this template.


Can't wait to get there.





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Grunzer
Thu Sep 15, 2005 5:14 pm
#29



As a 4/4/4/0 Defender, What's the Tanking like? Can you tank?





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Steegee
Thu Sep 15, 2005 6:25 pm
#30






Grunzer wrote:


As a 4/4/4/0 Defender, What's the Tanking like? Can you tank?








well, doing the math;


Innate armor for 4440 defender is at 54 which is 44.82% resist. That's only 6 points lower than a TKM who has 60. Using the armor equation shows that 60 innate = 48% resist. That's only a 3.18% difference. So if a tkm is taking 100 damage from a mob, you'd take 103.18 damage..........




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Kerley
Thu Sep 15, 2005 7:34 pm
#31

I'm thinking of ...


Master Defender


Saber 0404


Enhancer 3402


Healer 4000

Kerley
Thu Sep 15, 2005 7:43 pm
#32

Hey and steegee your umm sig....i about had a heart attack

I think you should take that vid off before u hurt somone lol just j/k
Steegee
Sun Sep 18, 2005 2:54 am
#33






Kerley wrote:

Hey and steegee your umm sig....i about had a heart attack

I think you should take that vid off before u hurt somone lol just j/k





like it? i like to keep people on their toes.



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Minoch
Sun Sep 18, 2005 1:30 pm
#34






Steegee wrote:






Kerley wrote:

Hey and steegee your umm sig....i about had a heart attack

I think you should take that vid off before u hurt somone lol just j/k





like it? i like to keep people on their toes.




Thanks for that. I just got my underwear back from the wash...





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Tony-
Sun Sep 18, 2005 4:18 pm
#35


I was MLS/Menh Heal 4004 b4 cu. Currently im Mdef,LS 0444, Heal 4000 Enh 2003.


Thinking of swaping the defender for MLS, .Was thinking of losing the Ranged Line in defender leaving the 2 meele lines and the one with force valor,however, currently i find Mdef not worth it v jedi but great agints ranged BH. So now im thinking may as well drop the meele line and keep the range, Any coments?


Message Edited by Tony- on 09-19-2005 12:23 AM

Steegee
Fri Oct 07, 2005 1:53 am
#36






Tony- wrote:


I was MLS/Menh Heal 4004 b4 cu. Currently im Mdef,LS 0444, Heal 4000 Enh 2003.


Thinking of swaping the defender for MLS, .Was thinking of losing the Ranged Line in defender leaving the 2 meele lines and the one with force valor,however, currently i find Mdef not worth it v jedi but great agints ranged BH. So now im thinking may as well drop the meele line and keep the range, Any coments?



Message Edited by Tony- on 09-19-2005 12:23 AM





That's fine if ya don't plan on doing the frs whenever it comes back. However if you do go for a rank the melee defense might be more use, that's of course if we have to fight other jedi for ranking. There might be a whole new system not even needing pvp. Like wise, the template with the force armor and 4040 defender might be more useful against jedi and others who use armor break. Since we can't slice our robes against armor break, the higher your armor the less you'll be effected by it.


It's too early to tell how the frs will be like, and what skills will benefit from the ranks. Force armor might be worth getting if it becomes better at higher ranks like it was before. Then again, if the devs do it right the rankings will boost any jedi skills you have, instead of particular ones like before. That way any jedi template can benefit from higher ranks. It would be dumb let's say, to put only +10 block at rank 1 when there's jedi who don't even use sabers (power users).





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jugs
Fri Oct 07, 2005 2:23 am
#37






Neutronos wrote:

About the 3402 enh version. Yes you get alot of defense but as soon as your armorbreaked force armor does little to nothing at all whatsoever and you still have the FC on it. People either forget this or dont know it.


Im currently that version myself and I'm definately changing it to either menh (when and ifi get my saber to a satisfied level) or 4440 def. Imo it is not worth it.






I was under the impression that if someone armorbreaks you, its the Jedi Innate Armor thats broken not your ForceArmor. I haven't noticed my force armor being affected. Just an observation.

-artist-
Fri Oct 07, 2005 2:29 am
#38






Philosofikal wrote:

How do you like this temp? Good for all around pvp and pve for the most part? Is it giving you enough force (channel helping) and does it provide enough Defense?





my template is exactly the same and it definetly awesome (tried everysingle template except : mhealer/mdefender/enhancerxx44 )...


in this template you have root and force run : its definitely ranged prof killer and awesome against mdefenders


has really high defense ,practically it is better than mdefender altho what the numbers say on paper, 50-70(or 100 etc. dont like playing the game with numbers) damage reduction when ur a mdef is not worth to drop force speed and 1.5k heals and root and force run


there are many more things to say but,as a result,this template 99.9% of the time beats a mls/mdef/heal 3xxx/enh xxx2...unless ur pvp retarded


oh and,its awesome against pve also,only that mdefs can solomobs fastertho u have a great potential to solo stuff,if u get used to the template,but if while soloing stuff a bh comes,the mdef/mls is doomed (thats unless the BH is pvp retarded )







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Epaos
Fri Oct 07, 2005 6:57 am
#39






Clu1 wrote:

MLS/Enh 3402/Def 4040/Healer 4000 better










Duel me Clu ill prove ya wrong, you burn your force and use a holo before you defeate me


Force Armor is teh SUX..had it tested it for 2 months If its your only line of def i would say use it but other than that..like master healer. A waste of skill points.


Sap and Shock is ok for jedi with low end sabers, i would recomend it if your saber as you say..sucks. But for me it wasnt worth the investment.


Inate armor is free def, no force cost

Force armor uses a TON of force compared ito inate armor lines of defender 4400



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