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Thread: for all of you who hate paying for gas
DrNeek wrote:
Gotta love the Canadian government for this. Alberta produces a lot of oil and cereal. Cereal is also very important because it's used to make beer, but that's another story.
We produce enough oil in alberta and in the central provinces to be self-suficient (spelling?). Meaning we COULD have really cheap gas here in Canada if we kept it for our own needs. But *no*, we sell it all to the US and other prople i'm not sure, and we buy what we need to use ourselvs. That way, the governement makes money selling the oil, makes money taxing the imports back, and taxes again when we buy it at the pump.
I feel like doing some math here, just for fun. Gas is taxed at close to 45% here, it's added to the price of the gas so it's half hidden. That means that 1$'s worth of oil costs me 1.45$. To have 1.45$ in my pocket, after all the income tax has been deducted from my salary, I need to earn 3.37$.
So, when I fillup my little civic and it costs me 40$, I actually have 11.87$'s worth of product, and 28.13$ in taxes.
Message Edited by DrNeek on 09-02-2005 06:44 AM
I just explained earlier than North American oil is not the kind of fuel we use to power our cars. North American oil are heavy crude. You import them to us for our industrial plants, mills, and factories so you could profit from oil sales. Your country uses the oil too.
WizKid72 wrote:
Cheers to the Venezuelan government for their assistance with our national tragedy. I read it in the Chicago Sun Times yesterday that you guys are gonna help us out =)
Don't fall for this. This is just Chaves' being a d!ck as usaul trying to make America look like the 3rd world country that Venezuala really is. It's a typical low blow from a low life thug trying to take advantage of our tradgedy and use it for his own political posturing.
WizKid72 wrote:
DrNeek wrote:
Gotta love the Canadian government for this. Alberta produces a lot of oil and cereal. Cereal is also very important because it's used to make beer, but that's another story.
We produce enough oil in alberta and in the central provinces to be self-suficient (spelling?). Meaning we COULD have really cheap gas here in Canada if we kept it for our own needs. But *no*, we sell it all to the US and other prople i'm not sure, and we buy what we need to use ourselvs. That way, the governement makes money selling the oil, makes money taxing the imports back, and taxes again when we buy it at the pump.
I feel like doing some math here, just for fun. Gas is taxed at close to 45% here, it's added to the price of the gas so it's half hidden. That means that 1$'s worth of oil costs me 1.45$. To have 1.45$ in my pocket, after all the income tax has been deducted from my salary, I need to earn 3.37$.
So, when I fillup my little civic and it costs me 40$, I actually have 11.87$'s worth of product, and 28.13$ in taxes.
Message Edited by DrNeek on 09-02-2005 06:44 AM
I just explained earlier than North American oil is not the kind of fuel we use to power our cars. North American oil are heavy crude. You import them to us for our industrial plants, mills, and factories so you could profit from oil sales. Your country uses the oil too.
Light crude oil that is used in cars and trucks are imported from the Middle East and South America.
I dont know who told you this or where you read it but its incorrect.
Bush is trying to get the senate to pass the bill to let us tap into our reserves in Alaska. These reserves will produce upto 1 million barrels of oil per day. Granted we wont see this oil for 10 years so it will have very little impact on todays prices.
By doing this we are increasing our reserves not increasing our exports.
Message Edited by mauvros on 09-02-2005 06:57 AM
Chawncy wrote:
WizKid72 wrote:
Cheers to the Venezuelan government for their assistance with our national tragedy. I read it in the Chicago Sun Times yesterday that you guys are gonna help us out =)
Don't fall for this. This is just Chaves' being a d!ck as usaul trying to make America look like the 3rd world country that Venezuala really is. It's a typical low blow from a low life thug trying to take advantage of our tradgedy and use it for his own political posturing.
lol ya f'ing Communist president...lol
hes a f'ing liar
mauvros wrote:
WizKid72 wrote:
DrNeek wrote:
Gotta love the Canadian government for this. Alberta produces a lot of oil and cereal. Cereal is also very important because it's used to make beer, but that's another story.
We produce enough oil in alberta and in the central provinces to be self-suficient (spelling?). Meaning we COULD have really cheap gas here in Canada if we kept it for our own needs. But *no*, we sell it all to the US and other prople i'm not sure, and we buy what we need to use ourselvs. That way, the governement makes money selling the oil, makes money taxing the imports back, and taxes again when we buy it at the pump.
I feel like doing some math here, just for fun. Gas is taxed at close to 45% here, it's added to the price of the gas so it's half hidden. That means that 1$'s worth of oil costs me 1.45$. To have 1.45$ in my pocket, after all the income tax has been deducted from my salary, I need to earn 3.37$.
So, when I fillup my little civic and it costs me 40$, I actually have 11.87$'s worth of product, and 28.13$ in taxes.
Message Edited by DrNeek on 09-02-2005 06:44 AM
I just explained earlier than North American oil is not the kind of fuel we use to power our cars. North American oil are heavy crude. You import them to us for our industrial plants, mills, and factories so you could profit from oil sales. Your country uses the oil too.
Light crude oil that is used in cars and trucks are imported from the Middle East and South America.
I dont know who told you this or where you read it but its incorrect.
Bush is trying to get the senate to pass the bill to let us tap into our reserves in Alaska. These reserves will produce upto 1 million barrels of oil per day. Granted we wont see this oil for 10 years so it will have very little impact on todays prices.
By doing this we are increasing our reserves not increasing our exports.
Message Edited by mauvros on 09-02-2005 06:57 AM
/bump
Still waiting on you Wizkid....
wakarashi wrote:
Post this in •General Any Topic (Non SWG)
Not in the Jedi forums!
Applications for Mods dont come out for another month.
Im sorry, does this one thread bother you? Just dont read it.
ArMaGOD wrote:
anyways on a more jedi specific topic is the following template any good lol
4440 defender
master ls
4000 healer
3002 enhancer
let me know thx
To answer your templet question. I have this Templet and LOVE it. But i will say that this templet is ALL about the saber.
If you have a perfect or near perfect saber you will love this temp. If you don't then you will be a little gimped.
This temp is all about an Aura/ infusion macro and Improved force speed. This is the TANK temp. I have
tanked 3 level 84 NS and fought a 2 man BH team (pre pub 20)at the same time and killed them them all lol.
This temp is very open to a MBH / MCM temp but that where the perfect saber comes in handy lol
Hope this helps.
punisherm wrote:
ArMaGOD wrote:
anyways on a more jedi specific topic is the following template any good lol
4440 defender
master ls
4000 healer
3002 enhancer
let me know thx
To answer your templet question. I have this Templet and LOVE it. But i will say that this templet is ALL about the saber.
If you have a perfect or near perfect saber you will love this temp. If you don't then you will be a little gimped.
This temp is all about an Aura / infusion macro and Improved force speed. This is the TANK temp. I have
tanked 3 level 84 NS and fought a 2 man BH team (pre pub 20) at the same time and killed them them all lol.
This temp is very open to a MBH / MCM temp but that where the perfect saber comes in handy lol
Hope this helps.
my saber is 350 base dps, would you call that good enough?
have all premiums in them ranging from 100-120 dmg and all above -.20 spd , -9s or -8s
not completely perfect but better then most
wakarashi wrote:
Post this in •General Any Topic (Non SWG)Not in the Jedi forums!
read the entire thread i had a jedi question in there just so I could catch those people like yourself who would say its in the wrong forum ...lol
now if you wanna complain about the title....well thats a different story
Message Edited by ArMaGOD on 09-02-2005 11:38 AM
mauvros wrote:
mauvros wrote:
WizKid72 wrote:
DrNeek wrote:
Gotta love the Canadian government for this. Alberta produces a lot of oil and cereal. Cereal is also very important because it's used to make beer, but that's another story.
We produce enough oil in alberta and in the central provinces to be self-suficient (spelling?). Meaning we COULD have really cheap gas here in Canada if we kept it for our own needs. But *no*, we sell it all to the US and other prople i'm not sure, and we buy what we need to use ourselvs. That way, the governement makes money selling the oil, makes money taxing the imports back, and taxes again when we buy it at the pump.
I feel like doing some math here, just for fun. Gas is taxed at close to 45% here, it's added to the price of the gas so it's half hidden. That means that 1$'s worth of oil costs me 1.45$. To have 1.45$ in my pocket, after all the income tax has been deducted from my salary, I need to earn 3.37$.
So, when I fillup my little civic and it costs me 40$, I actually have 11.87$'s worth of product, and 28.13$ in taxes.
Message Edited by DrNeek on 09-02-2005 06:44 AM
I just explained earlier than North American oil is not the kind of fuel we use to power our cars. North American oil are heavy crude. You import them to us for our industrial plants, mills, and factories so you could profit from oil sales. Your country uses the oil too.
Light crude oil that is used in cars and trucks are imported from the Middle East and South America.
I dont know who told you this or where you read it but its incorrect.
Bush is trying to get the senate to pass the bill to let us tap into our reserves in Alaska. These reserves will produce upto 1 million barrels of oil per day. Granted we wont see this oil for 10 years so it will have very little impact on todays prices.
By doing this we are increasing our reserves not increasing our exports.
Message Edited by mauvros on 09-02-2005 06:57 AM
/bump
Still waiting on you Wizkid....
hmm you know too much.. expect a visit by men in black..
seriously.. the way I read it in the papers, our reserves of 700 billion (or million?)barrels are located in the salt caves in the south, not in Alaska.
Pardon the long delay. I just woke up. I'm a night worker, so I sleep morning to afternoon =P
WizKid72 wrote:
mauvros wrote:
mauvros wrote:
WizKid72 wrote:
DrNeek wrote:
Gotta love the Canadian government for this. Alberta produces a lot of oil and cereal. Cereal is also very important because it's used to make beer, but that's another story.
We produce enough oil in alberta and in the central provinces to be self-suficient (spelling?). Meaning we COULD have really cheap gas here in Canada if we kept it for our own needs. But *no*, we sell it all to the US and other prople i'm not sure, and we buy what we need to use ourselvs. That way, the governement makes money selling the oil, makes money taxing the imports back, and taxes again when we buy it at the pump.
I feel like doing some math here, just for fun. Gas is taxed at close to 45% here, it's added to the price of the gas so it's half hidden. That means that 1$'s worth of oil costs me 1.45$. To have 1.45$ in my pocket, after all the income tax has been deducted from my salary, I need to earn 3.37$.
So, when I fillup my little civic and it costs me 40$, I actually have 11.87$'s worth of product, and 28.13$ in taxes.
Message Edited by DrNeek on 09-02-2005 06:44 AM
I just explained earlier than North American oil is not the kind of fuel we use to power our cars. North American oil are heavy crude. You import them to us for our industrial plants, mills, and factories so you could profit from oil sales. Your country uses the oil too.Light crude oil that is used in cars and trucks are imported from the Middle East and South America.
I dont know who told you this or where you read it but its incorrect.
Bush is trying to get the senate to pass the bill to let us tap into our reserves in Alaska. These reserves will produce upto 1 million barrels of oil per day. Granted we wont see this oil for 10 years so it will have very little impact on todays prices.
By doing this we are increasing our reserves not increasing our exports.
Message Edited by mauvros on 09-02-2005 06:57 AM
/bump
Still waiting on you Wizkid....
hmm you know too much.. expect a visit by men in black..seriously.. the way I read it in the papers, our reserves of 700 billion (or million?) barrels are located in the salt caves in the south, not in Alaska.
Pardon the long delay. I just woke up. I'm a night worker, so I sleep morning to afternoon =P
Your slightly incorrect there is a oil reserve in alaska under a wild life preserverate, george w bush recently signed to have that wild life preservative disturbed in order to allow drilling to obtain the oil there. In that area theres enough oil for the entire U.s to run for about 1-3 months, so it would sort of double the reserves i think?
Not sure what our current ones are at
Catman-Does wrote:
We in the UK pay about 4 times as much per gallon as people in US... and the average person in the US uses like 4 times as more!
So we pay the same in gas get to travel around this beautiful country 4-times as much....cool