Jedi Archive
Thread: Forcecost vs Mindcost, Bacta Jab+BactaShot vs TotalHeal
MsNiL
Sun Jul 03, 2005 10:43 am
#27
Nop. I have always stated Healer 4 0 0 0 should not be needed.
gera wrote:
I remember once you post, Healer 4 0 0 0 should not be powerful, Jedi's strength coming from 4000 healing when there is MH, MH should be powerful, 4000 not. Well, we got what you wanted.
Totally nerfed.. all together, does not matter 4000 or MH.
Great difference.
SpunkyKuma
Sun Jul 03, 2005 10:45 am
#28
Good post MisNil, question though, what race is your Jedi- if it's Human then it's all good since all HAM and regen stats are neutral with 1000 at CL1, my two toons are Zabrak and Mon Calamari (also have a human) and Mon Cal seems to have a FAR better mind regen rate which makes me a better healer than most other races, the Zabrak on the other hand has horrific mind regen that if I do a few attacks after a heal my mind doesn't regen but only drains from the attack cost on weapon attacks but this doens't happen on my Mon Cal as I can heal and attack while my mind regens quickly. This is part of why I think weapon attack should be restricted only to action.
Of course foods play a big role, Booster Blue, spiced tea, some of those good classic drinks like Accarygm and Mandolarian wine and Breath of Heaven.
Of course foods play a big role, Booster Blue, spiced tea, some of those good classic drinks like Accarygm and Mandolarian wine and Breath of Heaven.
Vicci A'Tivo - Elder "in your face" Bounty Hunter
SpunkyKuma
Sun Jul 03, 2005 10:57 am
#29
"My strong combo is Breath of Heaven + Vagnarian Canape + Booster Blue. It's more or less impossible for me to run out of mind with theese in my system."
I will keep those in mind, thanks, and I'm glad at least Mon Cals are still a good race since when the CU went live I was upset to have the lowest amount of health along with Bothans and thought I got badly gimped but my past role in the two years of playing I have always been a healer and had managed to crank my mind up to 6500+ pre-CU and I was among the toughest to take down (I was the last man standing out of my 30+ man crew that raided a town once with 25+ attacking me at once) so I am still proud to have a Mon Cal.
I will keep those in mind, thanks, and I'm glad at least Mon Cals are still a good race since when the CU went live I was upset to have the lowest amount of health along with Bothans and thought I got badly gimped but my past role in the two years of playing I have always been a healer and had managed to crank my mind up to 6500+ pre-CU and I was among the toughest to take down (I was the last man standing out of my 30+ man crew that raided a town once with 25+ attacking me at once) so I am still proud to have a Mon Cal.
Gohma_Manovich
Sun Jul 03, 2005 11:00 am
#30
not lookin ggood for jedi.....
don't wanna be an american idiot
MsNiL
Sun Jul 03, 2005 11:03 am
#31
The combo BoH/VC/BB will give you about +700 health and then an additional 20% on top of that.
SpunkyKuma wrote:
"My strong combo is Breath of Heaven + Vagnarian Canape + Booster Blue. It's more or less impossible for me to run out of mind with theese in my system."
I will keep those in mind, thanks, and I'm glad at least Mon Cals are still a good race since when the CU went live I was upset to have the lowest amount of health along with Bothans and thought I got badly gimped but my past role in the two years of playing I have always been a healer and had managed to crank my mind up to 6500+ pre-CU and I was among the toughest to take down (I was the last man standing out of my 30+ man crew that raided a town once with 25+ attacking me at once) so I am still proud to have a Mon Cal.
For humans thats a total of +1400. Will also give you around +840 action and +900 mind as human. Probably far more as a Mon Cal ^_^
Ofcourse, as a Mon Cal you are limited by force like the rest of us...
Drazharr
Sun Jul 03, 2005 1:13 pm
#32
MsNiL wrote:
Nop. I have always stated Healer 4 0 0 0 should not be needed.
gera wrote:
I remember once you post, Healer 4 0 0 0 should not be powerful, Jedi's strength coming from 4000 healing when there is MH, MH should be powerful, 4000 not. Well, we got what you wanted.
Totally nerfed.. all together, does not matter 4000 or MH.
Great difference.
MsNil, I'm wresting with an "all-or-nothing" choice. I almost know how you're gonna answer this question, lol, but I'm still gonna ask it 'cause I can't decide:
Do I ditch healing altogether and go Master Defender/MP or MLS/4004 Enhancer, or do I just give up and become an MD/MP or MLS/4040 or 4004 healer and use Avoid Incap or Force Run off when my force bar starts approaching 2000 or so?
I'm MLS/MP/4040 Healer now, and that's definitely not playable since the Pub 19 healing nerf. And I'm gonna stay a double master, two-four template.
Message Edited by Drazharr on 07-03-2005 04:14 PM
JessieJames19
Sun Jul 03, 2005 1:26 pm
#33
omg omg omg omg total heal + improved heal. 
Superior healing
Superior healing
BDragon
Sun Jul 03, 2005 1:42 pm
#34
I have a question MsNiL, do you kno any MLS with 700+ sabers? I would love to do this testing myself, but i dont know a single master healer. Im interested to see if MHealer has enough healing DPS to keep up with MLS damage. If they cant, then we have 1 of two situations.
1: Jedi are intended to have defence AND healing to survive damage output
2: Jedi are not intended to out-heal damage
I really would like to know which it is, for the sake of other Jedi out there...
1: Jedi are intended to have defence AND healing to survive damage output
2: Jedi are not intended to out-heal damage
I really would like to know which it is, for the sake of other Jedi out there...
JessieJames19
Sun Jul 03, 2005 1:50 pm
#35
BDragon wrote:
I have a question MsNiL, do you kno any MLS with 700+ sabers? I would love to do this testing myself, but i dont know a single master healer. Im interested to see if MHealer has enough healing DPS to keep up with MLS damage. If they cant, then we have 1 of two situations.
1: Jedi are intended to have defence AND healing to survive damage output
2: Jedi are not intended to out-heal damage
I really would like to know which it is, for the sake of other Jedi out there...
hehe. but even a master defender can crumble fast with healing 4-0-0-0 alone, so defense alone wont solve it
Message Edited by JessieJames19 on 07-03-2005 04:52 PM
Ephrath
Sun Jul 03, 2005 1:56 pm
#36
May I ask a question? If your so upset about this, why don't you respec from Master Healer to Master Doctor? Since, as you seem to be expressing, it's better for you in the long run....
Ephrath
Sun Jul 03, 2005 2:18 pm
#38
Beats me. It sounds like he's saying he can only heal 2.5k with master healer or something. I dont think he knows how to display all thefacts so people can compare and make a desision for themselves.
BDragon
Sun Jul 03, 2005 2:18 pm
#39
JessieJames19 wrote:
BDragon wrote:
I have a question MsNiL, do you kno any MLS with 700+ sabers? I would love to do this testing myself, but i dont know a single master healer. Im interested to see if MHealer has enough healing DPS to keep up with MLS damage. If they cant, then we have 1 of two situations.
1: Jedi are intended to have defence AND healing to survive damage output
2: Jedi are not intended to out-heal damage
I really would like to know which it is, for the sake of other Jedi out there...
hehe. but even a master defender can crumble fast with healing 4-0-0-0 alone, so defense alone wont solve itMessage Edited by JessieJames19 on 07-03-2005 04:52 PM
No no, the question here is master healer, not 4000. If a total heal cant keep you alive, then it is pretty clear that only defender + master healer will have a chance. In which case the devs are sending a clear message, or they are just dumb...