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Thread: I´ve tuned 45 crystals and pearls, and...

Ryle80
Thu Sep 15, 2005 8:18 am
#27



KeeferKman wrote:

Talk to Serviticus on Bria...He had it all figured out... plus, with 2 or 3 friends you spend an hour or twoa day for a few weeks and you watch them rack up. The point being, THOSE crystals tuned WELL...you could just sell them for great money, and the the other loot was great too for WS and AS...

Lets just stop the post-Jedi flames, and focus on getting them in a better situation. They did the grind too, and no matter when you did the grind, it has never been a cake walk, ever.






All im trying to say that out of 45 he got one with 107 max. Out of 200 he would have hopefully 4 107's.

+107
+107
+107
+107
+250 (eff experimented saber
= 670 saber

That to me really isnt that bad. Also i have ground out a jedi post-cu as well as pre, and there is a large diffrence in difficulty, especially ay the early stages of grinding. My post wasnt meant to be a flame, im just fed up how jedi now seem to think we had it easy pre-cu. 20k for novice lightsaber took a full 3 hour buff for pre-cu, while a post-cu will have capped (at 80k) in 2 lairs (20 mins with a fair group). Jedi is meant to be hard, not 'oh i finished my template and now im going to be an uber pvper'...

In terms of cash alone, if i had got my saber to the stats it is now by soley buying pearls for instance, it would have taken 60 X 4/5 million credits on flurry, i now see goods selling for about 1 mill, so to buy 200 say for the stats above would be pretty much the same.




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iskareot
Thu Sep 15, 2005 8:23 am
#28





All im trying to say that out of 45 he got one with 107 max. Out of 200 he would have hopefully 4 107's.

+107
+107
+107
+107
+250 (eff experimented saber
= 670 saber

That to me really isnt that bad. Also i have ground out a jedi post-cu as well as pre, and there is a large diffrence in difficulty, especially ay the early stages of grinding. My post wasnt meant to be a flame, im just fed up how jedi now seem to think we had it easy pre-cu. 20k for novice lightsaber took a full 3 hour buff for pre-cu, while a post-cu will have capped (at 80k) in 2 lairs (20 mins with a fair group). Jedi is meant to be hard, not 'oh i finished my template and now im going to be an uber pvper'...

In terms of cash alone, if i had got my saber to the stats it is now by soley buying pearls for instance, it would have taken 60 X 4/5 million credits on flurry, i now see goods selling for about 1 mill, so to buy 200 say for the stats above would be pretty much the same.





Yep not much better Pre -CU in some instances.


More Premiums but at the same time it did take a few to get perfect... oh well welcome to the CU



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Atzo
Thu Sep 15, 2005 8:29 am
#29

thanks for the help Elear. In about 10 years once the template is completed I'll let you know how i get on



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Taborzoid2
Thu Sep 15, 2005 8:33 am
#30






KeeferKman wrote:





Ryle80 wrote:




Maelstron wrote:

Krayt Pearls, Quality, Good and Fair Crystals... And my4 best tunes have been:


107 -4


83 -4

82 -3

78 -4


And 41 other tunes under 70...



WHAT THE HELL IS THIS? I´M OUT OF MONEY (in fact, I owe a guildmate 500k credits), I´M TIRED OF SEARCHING CRISTALS AND PEARLS, I´M TIRED OF CALLING MY FRIENDS "hey, please, come and hunt with me, I need crystals and pearls". I´M TIRED OF WAITING FOR MONTHS UNTIL YOU, SOE, DO SOMETHING. I´M TIRED OF RUNNING EVERY TIME A BH COMES FOR ME BECAUSE I CAN´T FIGHT. I´M TIRED OF NO PVP WITH MY USELESS LIGHTSABER.


TIGGS, AND THE OTHERS, DO YOU THINK THOSE REASONS ARE GOOD ENOUGHT TO CANCEL MY ACCOUNT? BECAUSE I´M STARTING TO THINK THAT THIS IS ENOUGH...



(I know, I know, I´m only complaining, many people have same problems, someday the drop will be fixed... but that´s no excuse, and I´m SO tired... Now, flame if you want...)


A sad jedi, and a sad player i´ve become...






Man go farm them yourself then. Pre-cu jedi tuned 50+ premiums to make a nice saber (perfect looking for more like 100+ tunes). No need to pay for them when you have an alt you can make into a bh or even hunt krayts yourself.

And trust me, for 45 tunes those are pretty dang sweet tunes.

Message Edited by Ryle80 on 09-15-2005 03:02 PM





Pre-cu you could farm the crap out of Kryats and pull premiums...I know some pre-cu Jedi whosay they farmed over 1000 premiums...


This dude is not saying he's not willing to work for em, and I quote "I´M TIRED OF CALLING MY FRIENDS "hey, please, come and hunt with me, I need crystals and pearls".


Those tunes are crap and you know it....My BH would eat him up for breakfast, lunch, dinner and as a snack...No need to flame him...look at the big picture...Jedi are currently in the worst shape they have been in. Pre-cu Jedi (and I'm one of them)...puta sock in your mouth for disin post-cu Jedi rants...you'd be doing the same.


I feel for them dude...it aint right









See, I love it when people talk about something they know nothing about based on heresay.


Pre-CU, you could "try" and farm Krayts, but it took multiple accounts, (with the exception of Swordsman/Doc, but gawd that was long kill solo, like about 30 minutes per Dragon, with the exception of Juvinilles).


Honestly, I agree the situation is bad now, but in all honesty, Pre-CU Jedi weren't pulling them off trees, and as far as 1000 Pearls, I find that to be somewhat hard to believe, unless this person had no job, no life, and never slept, (becuase you had to SHARE, or he had freinds who gave him all the Pearls looted).


Sure, Swords/Doc could solo them, but honestly, to solo enough Dragons to loot 1000 Pearls, this person must have done nothing but killing Krayts for 8 months, 24/7. (the drop rate wasn't fantastic back then either IF the Dragons spawned at all, and they sure weren't as plentiful as they are now, heck, you could cruise the graveyard for 2= hours and not see ONE Dragon).


All I'm saying is, don't believe everything you hear, and try and realize that people had "different" challenges back then.


It was never that easy though, regardless of what you've heard.


In the end though, the Devs need to solve this problem, or risk a whole lot of cancelled (or Ebayed) accounts.


I forsee Ebay Jedi becoming very, very cheap if it continues unresolved.



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jonstraf
Thu Sep 15, 2005 8:34 am
#31



razeyboy wrote:


cahn-a-licious wrote:


Ryle80 wrote:

Maelstron wrote:
Krayt Pearls, Quality, Good and Fair Crystals... And my 4 best tunes have been:
107 -4
83 -4
82 -3
78 -4
And 41 other tunes under 70...
WHAT THE HELL IS THIS? I´M OUT OF MONEY (in fact, I owe a guildmate 500k credits), I´M TIRED OF SEARCHING CRISTALS AND PEARLS, I´M TIRED OF CALLING MY FRIENDS "hey, please, come and hunt with me, I need crystals and pearls". I´M TIRED OF WAITING FOR MONTHS UNTIL YOU, SOE, DO SOMETHING. I´M TIRED OF RUNNING EVERY TIME A BH COMES FOR ME BECAUSE I CAN´T FIGHT. I´M TIRED OF NO PVP WITH MY USELESS LIGHTSABER.
TIGGS, AND THE OTHERS, DO YOU THINK THOSE REASONS ARE GOOD ENOUGHT TO CANCEL MY ACCOUNT? BECAUSE I´M STARTING TO THINK THAT THIS IS ENOUGH...
(I know, I know, I´m only complaining, many people have same problems, someday the drop will be fixed... but that´s no excuse, and I´m SO tired... Now, flame if you want...)
A sad jedi, and a sad player i´ve become...




Man go farm them yourself then. Pre-cu jedi tuned 50+ premiums to make a nice saber (perfect looking for more like 100+ tunes). No need to pay for them when you have an alt you can make into a bh or even hunt krayts yourself.

And trust me, for 45 tunes those are pretty dang sweet tunes.

Message Edited by Ryle80 on 09-15-2005 03:02 PM



YOU CANNOT TUNE A LESS THAN PREMIUM PEARL/CRYSTAL FOR "PERFECT" STATS. PERIOD


Wrong.

Tiggs wrote:
The "rare" pearls are simply ones which dropped from very high level creatures. What changed was that combat upgrade altered the levels of creatures. So where a pearl might before have been considered "premium" because it dropped from a level 287 creature, now it isn't considered premium because the creature dropping the pearl isn't level 287 any more.
The possible stats that a pearl can give you are the same, regardless of the pearl quality. The only advantage a "premium" pearl gives you is a better chance of getting higher stats. "Fixing pearls" would be a matter of changing the level ranges for different quality pearls. This would be a retroactive change which would suddenly change all the pearls in the game to be high-level pearls, increasing the power of Jedi globally and almost instantly - Unless we simultaneously lowered the advantage of premium pearls so that they don't give as much an increase to the odds of getting higher stats as they do now.
We would rather keep the premium pearls as they are - highly desirable and much better (in terms of the odds of getting higher stats) than normal pearls, but not drop them as casually as they dropped in the past. These should be rare, elite quest rewards and very high-end, elite-monster drops - not things that players "farm" from creatures that are no match for the player.

Message Edited by razeyboy on 09-15-2005 07:26 AM





Yep. Hate to say it fellas but he is right. He is probably pre-cu and has a perfect saber or he isn't a jedi. The odds are about 1/999999999999 which means that there is still a possibility. We better all wait patiently for the 1 in 9trillion tunes to happen



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Robi1kenobi
Thu Sep 15, 2005 8:37 am
#32

one thing i wanted to say about this thread , i dont know if it was said but are you sure the good pearls are pre or post cu ? if they are pre i think you got screwed , i dont think good pearl tunes as high as 100 as often if at all possible. I tuned like 30-40 of em ina row and my highest was like 76 and there was some quality in there too.

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jonstraf
Thu Sep 15, 2005 8:41 am
#33



Taborzoid2 wrote:


KeeferKman wrote:


Ryle80 wrote:

Maelstron wrote:
Krayt Pearls, Quality, Good and Fair Crystals... And my 4 best tunes have been:
107 -4
83 -4
82 -3
78 -4
And 41 other tunes under 70...
WHAT THE HELL IS THIS? I´M OUT OF MONEY (in fact, I owe a guildmate 500k credits), I´M TIRED OF SEARCHING CRISTALS AND PEARLS, I´M TIRED OF CALLING MY FRIENDS "hey, please, come and hunt with me, I need crystals and pearls". I´M TIRED OF WAITING FOR MONTHS UNTIL YOU, SOE, DO SOMETHING. I´M TIRED OF RUNNING EVERY TIME A BH COMES FOR ME BECAUSE I CAN´T FIGHT. I´M TIRED OF NO PVP WITH MY USELESS LIGHTSABER.
TIGGS, AND THE OTHERS, DO YOU THINK THOSE REASONS ARE GOOD ENOUGHT TO CANCEL MY ACCOUNT? BECAUSE I´M STARTING TO THINK THAT THIS IS ENOUGH...
(I know, I know, I´m only complaining, many people have same problems, someday the drop will be fixed... but that´s no excuse, and I´m SO tired... Now, flame if you want...)
A sad jedi, and a sad player i´ve become...




Man go farm them yourself then. Pre-cu jedi tuned 50+ premiums to make a nice saber (perfect looking for more like 100+ tunes). No need to pay for them when you have an alt you can make into a bh or even hunt krayts yourself.

And trust me, for 45 tunes those are pretty dang sweet tunes.

Message Edited by Ryle80 on 09-15-2005 03:02 PM



Pre-cu you could farm the crap out of Kryats and pull premiums...I know some pre-cu Jedi who say they farmed over 1000 premiums...

This dude is not saying he's not willing to work for em, and I quote "I´M TIRED OF CALLING MY FRIENDS "hey, please, come and hunt with me, I need crystals and pearls".

Those tunes are crap and you know it....My BH would eat him up for breakfast, lunch, dinner and as a snack...No need to flame him...look at the big picture...Jedi are currently in the worst shape they have been in. Pre-cu Jedi (and I'm one of them)...put a sock in your mouth for disin post-cu Jedi rants...you'd be doing the same.

I feel for them dude...it aint right




See, I love it when people talk about something they know nothing about based on heresay.
Pre-CU, you could "try" and farm Krayts, but it took multiple accounts, (with the exception of Swordsman/Doc, but gawd that was long kill solo, like about 30 minutes per Dragon, with the exception of Juvinilles).
Honestly, I agree the situation is bad now, but in all honesty, Pre-CU Jedi weren't pulling them off trees, and as far as 1000 Pearls, I find that to be somewhat hard to believe, unless this person had no job, no life, and never slept, (becuase you had to SHARE, or he had freinds who gave him all the Pearls looted).
Sure, Swords/Doc could solo them, but honestly, to solo enough Dragons to loot 1000 Pearls, this person must have done nothing but killing Krayts for 8 months, 24/7. (the drop rate wasn't fantastic back then either IF the Dragons spawned at all, and they sure weren't as plentiful as they are now, heck, you could cruise the graveyard for 2= hours and not see ONE Dragon).
All I'm saying is, don't believe everything you hear, and try and realize that people had "different" challenges back then.
It was never that easy though, regardless of what you've heard.
In the end though, the Devs need to solve this problem, or risk a whole lot of cancelled (or Ebayed) accounts.
I forsee Ebay Jedi becoming very, very cheap if it continues unresolved.





Oh, but sir i love how you think you know what you are talking about. It didn't take multiple accounts at all. See the way the old easy system used to work is the krayt would aggro the nearest thing to it that is hitting it if someone who was aggrod would run through them. So it was very easy to get aggro on your tank. Not only this, but a melee tank could tank a krayt all day. I did it multiple times. With this in mind, you put the tank in the front, and have 2-3 jedi behind them beating the living crap out of it. This in turn = dead krayt. Thank you for your time.



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DrNeek
Thu Sep 15, 2005 8:43 am
#34






Maelstron wrote:

Krayt Pearls, Quality, Good and Fair Crystals... And my4 best tunes have been:


107 -4


83 -4

82 -3

78 -4


And 41 other tunes under 70...



WHAT THE HELL IS THIS? I´M OUT OF MONEY (in fact, I owe a guildmate 500k credits), I´M TIRED OF SEARCHING CRISTALS AND PEARLS, I´M TIRED OF CALLING MY FRIENDS "hey, please, come and hunt with me, I need crystals and pearls". I´M TIRED OF WAITING FOR MONTHS UNTIL YOU, SOE, DO SOMETHING. I´M TIRED OF RUNNING EVERY TIME A BH COMES FOR ME BECAUSE I CAN´T FIGHT. I´M TIRED OF NO PVP WITH MY USELESS LIGHTSABER.


TIGGS, AND THE OTHERS, DO YOU THINK THOSE REASONS ARE GOOD ENOUGHT TO CANCEL MY ACCOUNT? BECAUSE I´M STARTING TO THINK THAT THIS IS ENOUGH...



(I know, I know, I´m only complaining, many people have same problems, someday the drop will be fixed... but that´s no excuse, and I´m SO tired... Now, flame if you want...)


A sad jedi, and a sad player i´ve become...





Those 4 are actually better than mine, and i've tuned about a hundred.. concider yourself lucky



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Bugboy321
Thu Sep 15, 2005 8:43 am
#35



Please, not another "gimme my perfect tunes" post.


I've tuned around 50-60 "good" pearls, one to 120 damge -5 FC, 3 102 damage, -3 to -6 FC, plus bunch of super FC pearls. Sure I've gotten a lot of crappy tunes, but so what? Go get some more, it's only your time either way, if you farm them yourself or buy them. If you don't like the price, well, that's your problem for not knowing how to hunt krayt.


What you ask is to have a handout, premiums may have a higher chance of a perfect tune but goods have a chance too. If you aren't happy unless you have perfect, then you will continue to be unhappy. Even if they bring back premiums you will not be happy.


Even a perfect saber won't save you from a BH if you are a lousy Jedi. By the same token, you can beat a BH's arse if you are a smart jedi with even a lousy saber.

Message Edited by Bugboy321 on 09-15-2005 11:47 AM



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Daivan
Thu Sep 15, 2005 8:45 am
#36






Saereth wrote:





BladeWaker wrote:
tune another few hundred and come back lol






Dood you are a total ass on a stick, out of every post I've seen you make lately not a single one has had anything constructive in it. And for the record, I've tuned nearly 370 PEARLS only post cu and have almost identical results, still nothing even above 110 for the best tune, don't act like a noob when you should know better. Your tuning days may be over but when you've tuned almost 400 pearls post-cu and actually know what you're talkin about then feel free to comment, otherwise do us all a favor and **Mod Bot - Be Nice**.




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Govance
Thu Sep 15, 2005 8:45 am
#37

u guys who have tune 100+ pearls/crystal sell em for deco 20k per pearl/crystal and get rich!



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DarkShadow1313
Thu Sep 15, 2005 8:47 am
#38

Only 45 lol. Still it is a good start for not tuning many.



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trifidac
Thu Sep 15, 2005 9:06 am
#39

My 4th gen has similar stats to your top 4 there, and only 3 of them are pre-CU pearls, the rest of the pre-CU stuff tuned like crap even quality and premiums as if I have really bad luck. The one good post-CU tune was like 60+ something, my LS is like 511-606 18 FC, good enough for me for now since I have a Sunrider's color crystal with it.

I guess the devs felt that giving us two 2x xp weeks and tons of time for respec, they decided to make us suffer by taking away decent pearl drops?




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