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Thread: I´ve tuned 45 crystals and pearls, and...

freak88
Thu Sep 15, 2005 9:08 am
#40

problem with nooblet jedi is this. it used to take 6 months to a year to grind a jedi, also during that time, it took a jedi s alt 6 months - to a year of everyday hunting krayts with friends to come up with 4 good tuned pearls.


problem now id jedi are fully ground out in 2 weeks, but your alt hasnt done the 6months - a year of krayt hunting with friends to get those 4 great tuned pearls.


MYTHS


myth 1. premium pearls tune great everytime, WRONG, i have a entire house full of them to prove it


myth 2. crystals are just as good as pearls, WRONG i have never seen a crystal tune -9 force over 115 damage


myth 3. pearls arent dropping WRONG im in DKA guild on ahazi, the other night i joined in a DKA guild krayt hunt for the noobs, just hanging with guildies having fun, i mean, im not in competition with my guildies, in pvp i want the jedi next to me to be just as good if not better, anyway, i could only stay an hour, 1st hour , 8 good pearls, from all ranges and level of krayts, we killed them all.


and finally the my favorite myth of all


myth 4. if i sit and cry and whine on the jediforums long enough, the devs are going to give me 4 flawless perfectly tuned pearls, WRONG.


you new jedi as far as pearls arent going trough anything the rest of us didnt already go through. the problem is it took you 2 weeks or less to grind your jedi, now you should park him in the garage, stop wasting money on pearls crystals, get a 8 man group, and go hunt hunt hunt hunt hunt hunt hunt hnunt until you get 4 great tuned,then play with your jedi


or go play with your jedi, keep whining, and make a bh rich, its your jedi, its up to you.


trifidac
Thu Sep 15, 2005 9:14 am
#41


Saereth wrote:


BladeWaker wrote:
tune another few hundred and come back lol



Dood you are a total ass on a stick, out of every post I've seen you make lately not a single one has had anything constructive in it. And for the record, I've tuned nearly 370 PEARLS only post cu and have almost identical results, still nothing even above 110 for the best tune, don't act like a noob when you should know better. Your tuning days may be over but when you've tuned almost 400 pearls post-cu and actually know what you're talkin about then feel free to comment, otherwise do us all a favor and **Mod Bot - Be Nice**.



I'll have you know this certain fella is ebayed, he hasn't tuned a single pearl and just runs around with a perfect LS. His guild is one of the reasons why I quit playing on Lowca.




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razeyboy
Thu Sep 15, 2005 9:19 am
#42






jonstraf wrote:





razeyboy wrote:







cahn-a-licious wrote:





Ryle80 wrote:




Maelstron wrote:

Krayt Pearls, Quality, Good and Fair Crystals... And my 4 best tunes have been:


107 -4


83 -4

82 -3

78 -4


And 41 other tunes under 70...



WHAT THE HELL IS THIS? I´M OUT OF MONEY (in fact, I owe a guildmate 500k credits), I´M TIRED OF SEARCHING CRISTALS AND PEARLS, I´M TIRED OF CALLING MY FRIENDS "hey, please, come and hunt with me, I need crystals and pearls". I´M TIRED OF WAITING FOR MONTHS UNTIL YOU, SOE, DO SOMETHING. I´M TIRED OF RUNNING EVERY TIME A BH COMES FOR ME BECAUSE I CAN´T FIGHT. I´M TIRED OF NO PVP WITH MY USELESS LIGHTSABER.


TIGGS, AND THE OTHERS, DO YOU THINK THOSE REASONS ARE GOOD ENOUGHT TO CANCEL MY ACCOUNT? BECAUSE I´M STARTING TO THINK THAT THIS IS ENOUGH...



(I know, I know, I´m only complaining, many people have same problems, someday the drop will be fixed... but that´s no excuse, and I´m SO tired... Now, flame if you want...)


A sad jedi, and a sad player i´ve become...






Man go farm them yourself then. Pre-cu jedi tuned 50+ premiums to make a nice saber (perfect looking for more like 100+ tunes). No need to pay for them when you have an alt you can make into a bh or even hunt krayts yourself.

And trust me, for 45 tunes those are pretty dang sweet tunes.

Message Edited by Ryle80 on 09-15-2005 03:02 PM




YOU CANNOT TUNE A LESS THAN PREMIUM PEARL/CRYSTAL FOR "PERFECT" STATS. PERIOD





Wrong.



Tiggs wrote:

The "rare" pearls are simply ones which dropped from very high level creatures. What changed was that combat upgrade altered the levels of creatures. So where a pearl might before have been considered "premium" because it dropped from a level 287 creature, now it isn't considered premium because the creature dropping the pearl isn't level 287 any more.


The possible stats that a pearl can give you are the same, regardless of the pearl quality. The only advantage a "premium" pearl gives you is a better chance of getting higher stats. "Fixing pearls" would be a matter of changing the level ranges for different quality pearls. This would be a retroactive change which would suddenly change all the pearls in the game to be high-level pearls, increasing the power of Jedi globally and almost instantly - Unless we simultaneously lowered the advantage of premium pearls so that they don't give as much an increase to the odds of getting higher stats as they do now.


We would rather keep the premium pearls as they are - highly desirable and much better (in terms of the odds of getting higher stats) than normal pearls, but not drop them as casually as they dropped in the past. These should be rare, elite quest rewards and very high-end, elite-monster drops - not things that players "farm" from creatures that are no match for the player.

Message Edited by razeyboy on 09-15-2005 07:26 AM






Yep. Hate to say it fellas but he is right. He is probably pre-cu and has a perfect saber or he isn't a jedi. The odds are about 1/999999999999 which means that there is still a possibility. We better all wait patiently for the 1 in 9trillion tunes to happen




If you're referring to me, I am a post-CU jedi that has tuned around 40 fresh-looted good pearls since the CU, out of those I have got three +100 dmg's, all with ok FC and a decent speed. I consider myself lucky with that, after seeing some of the other posts on here about hundreds of bad tunes. All I was doing was pointing out that it IS possible to get atop tune from a good pearl because it has been stated by Tiggs. But as you say, the odds are horrible
Meebiwan
Thu Sep 15, 2005 9:24 am
#43


Grovance wrote



u guys who have tune 100+ pearls/crystal sell em for deco 20k per pearl/crystal and get rich!



lol, how many do you wanna buy?


Give me a tell.


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razeyboy
Thu Sep 15, 2005 9:27 am
#44






Boatsheets wrote:





razeyboy wrote:







cahn-a-licious wrote:





Ryle80 wrote:




Maelstron wrote:

Krayt Pearls, Quality, Good and Fair Crystals... And my 4 best tunes have been:


107 -4


83 -4

82 -3

78 -4


And 41 other tunes under 70...



WHAT THE HELL IS THIS? I´M OUT OF MONEY (in fact, I owe a guildmate 500k credits), I´M TIRED OF SEARCHING CRISTALS AND PEARLS, I´M TIRED OF CALLING MY FRIENDS "hey, please, come and hunt with me, I need crystals and pearls". I´M TIRED OF WAITING FOR MONTHS UNTIL YOU, SOE, DO SOMETHING. I´M TIRED OF RUNNING EVERY TIME A BH COMES FOR ME BECAUSE I CAN´T FIGHT. I´M TIRED OF NO PVP WITH MY USELESS LIGHTSABER.


TIGGS, AND THE OTHERS, DO YOU THINK THOSE REASONS ARE GOOD ENOUGHT TO CANCEL MY ACCOUNT? BECAUSE I´M STARTING TO THINK THAT THIS IS ENOUGH...



(I know, I know, I´m only complaining, many people have same problems, someday the drop will be fixed... but that´s no excuse, and I´m SO tired... Now, flame if you want...)


A sad jedi, and a sad player i´ve become...






Man go farm them yourself then. Pre-cu jedi tuned 50+ premiums to make a nice saber (perfect looking for more like 100+ tunes). No need to pay for them when you have an alt you can make into a bh or even hunt krayts yourself.

And trust me, for 45 tunes those are pretty dang sweet tunes.

Message Edited by Ryle80 on 09-15-2005 03:02 PM




YOU CANNOT TUNE A LESS THAN PREMIUM PEARL/CRYSTAL FOR "PERFECT" STATS. PERIOD





Wrong.



Tiggs wrote:

The "rare" pearls are simply ones which dropped from very high level creatures. What changed was that combat upgrade altered the levels of creatures. So where a pearl might before have been considered "premium" because it dropped from a level 287 creature, now it isn't considered premium because the creature dropping the pearl isn't level 287 any more.


The possible stats that a pearl can give you are the same, regardless of the pearl quality. The only advantage a "premium" pearl gives you is a better chance of getting higher stats. "Fixing pearls" would be a matter of changing the level ranges for different quality pearls. This would be a retroactive change which would suddenly change all the pearls in the game to be high-level pearls, increasing the power of Jedi globally and almost instantly - Unless we simultaneously lowered the advantage of premium pearls so that they don't give as much an increase to the odds of getting higher stats as they do now.


We would rather keep the premium pearls as they are - highly desirable and much better (in terms of the odds of getting higher stats) than normal pearls, but not drop them as casually as they dropped in the past. These should be rare, elite quest rewards and very high-end, elite-monster drops - not things that players "farm" from creatures that are no match for the player.

Message Edited by razeyboy on 09-15-2005 07:26 AM






Tiggs also said that entertainer buffs would work for Jedi.



Lol, true enough, but I do actually know of two players who have tuned a good pearl to 120 damage, -9 fc, and 0.2-something speed, so it can be done. Just takes an enormous amount of luck!

DarkShadow1313
Thu Sep 15, 2005 9:30 am
#45






freak88 wrote:

problem with nooblet jedi is this. it used to take 6 months to a year to grind a jedi, also during that time, it took a jedi s alt 6 months - to a year of everyday hunting krayts with friends to come up with 4 good tuned pearls.


problem now id jedi are fully ground out in 2 weeks, but your alt hasnt done the 6months - a year of krayt hunting with friends to get those 4 great tuned pearls.


MYTHS


myth 1. premium pearls tune great everytime, WRONG, i have a entire house full of them to prove it


myth 2. crystals are just as good as pearls, WRONG i have never seen a crystal tune -9 force over 115 damage


myth 3. pearls arent dropping WRONG im in DKA guild on ahazi, the other night i joined in a DKA guild krayt hunt for the noobs, just hanging with guildies having fun, i mean, im not in competition with my guildies, in pvp i want the jedi next to me to be just as good if not better, anyway, i could only stay an hour, 1st hour , 8 good pearls, from all ranges and level of krayts, we killed them all.


and finally the my favorite myth of all


myth 4. if i sit and cry and whine on the jediforums long enough, the devs are going to give me 4 flawless perfectly tuned pearls, WRONG.


you new jedi as far as pearls arent going trough anything the rest of us didnt already go through. the problem is it took you 2 weeks or less to grind your jedi, now you should park him in the garage, stop wasting money on pearls crystals, get a 8 man group, and go hunt hunt hunt hunt hunt hunt hunt hnunt until you get 4 great tuned,then play with your jedi


or go play with your jedi, keep whining, and make a bh rich, its your jedi, its up to you.








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BHPansy
Thu Sep 15, 2005 9:31 am
#46

Does this mean that, as a post-cu jedi, a 19fc 580-ish saber is closer to the norm, or does it suck monkey bawls?

Message Edited by BHPansy on 09-15-2005 05:32 PM



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rscheibler
Thu Sep 15, 2005 9:42 am
#47






DarkShadow1313 wrote:





freak88 wrote:

problem with nooblet jedi is this. it used to take 6 months to a year to grind a jedi, also during that time, it took a jedi s alt 6 months - to a year of everyday hunting krayts with friends to come up with 4 good tuned pearls.


problem now id jedi are fully ground out in 2 weeks, but your alt hasnt done the 6months - a year of krayt hunting with friends to get those 4 great tuned pearls.


MYTHS


myth 1. premium pearls tune great everytime, WRONG, i have a entire house full of them to prove it


myth 2. crystals are just as good as pearls, WRONG i have never seen a crystal tune -9 force over 115 damage


myth 3. pearls arent dropping WRONG im in DKA guild on ahazi, the other night i joined in a DKA guild krayt hunt for the noobs, just hanging with guildies having fun, i mean, im not in competition with my guildies, in pvp i want the jedi next to me to be just as good if not better, anyway, i could only stay an hour, 1st hour , 8 good pearls, from all ranges and level of krayts, we killed them all.


and finally the my favorite myth of all


myth 4. if i sit and cry and whine on the jediforums long enough, the devs are going to give me 4 flawless perfectly tuned pearls, WRONG.


you new jedi as far as pearls arent going trough anything the rest of us didnt already go through. the problem is it took you 2 weeks or less to grind your jedi, now you should park him in the garage, stop wasting money on pearls crystals, get a 8 man group, and go hunt hunt hunt hunt hunt hunt hunt hnunt until you get 4 great tuned,then play with your jedi


or go play with your jedi, keep whining, and make a bh rich, its your jedi, its up to you.








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huttu
Thu Sep 15, 2005 9:44 am
#48

blame the cu!



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MX13
Thu Sep 15, 2005 9:45 am
#49

LMAO!!!


Man, although I understand your frustration, you have no place to complain. There have been people who have tuned 3x that amount with not one tune as good as you second best.


I myself have tuned over 200 crystal & 100 pearls since the CU to take up the final 2 slots in my saber.


I wouldn't mind tuning so many if they would just improve the tuning odds a bit. I agree it should be hard, but not impossible.






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Gohma_Manovich
Thu Sep 15, 2005 9:45 am
#50

play your alt if your sick with jedi or take a break, was what i did for a while after pub 9 when village came in



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Bugboy321
Thu Sep 15, 2005 9:48 am
#51



@BHPansy:


19FC ain't too bad, your force should be able to stay steady but your damage could be better. Personally, I have 2 lightsabers, one for damage that has 33FC but 694 damage, and one for force conservation with 13FC but only 440 damage or so. Additionally, those 2 sabers, the FC one I experimented for low FC and the damage saber I experimented for damage. Every time I try to mix and match my pearls to have one saber that's a happy medium, the FC is always too high. So I wail away with the damage saber until my force gets no less than 50%, then I switch to the low FC saber and let my force work back up.


Whatever the pre-cu sabers are is irrelevant since no one knows what the new FRS is going to be based on, until then, it's all in the tactical decisions you make, like using 2 sabers as I do.

Message Edited by Bugboy321 on 09-15-2005 12:51 PM



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jason67
Thu Sep 15, 2005 11:54 am
#52






freak88 wrote:

problem with nooblet jedi is this. it used to take 6 months to a year to grind a jedi, also during that time, it took a jedi s alt 6 months - to a year of everyday hunting krayts with friends to come up with 4 good tuned pearls.


problem now id jedi are fully ground out in 2 weeks, but your alt hasnt done the 6months - a year of krayt hunting with friends to get those 4 great tuned pearls.


MYTHS


myth 1. premium pearls tune great everytime, WRONG, i have a entire house full of them to prove it


90%+ tunes of premiums or higher will tune significantly better than "good" pearls, even the bad premiums typically tune within usable ranges, but don't expect perfect or near perfect tunes every time.


myth 2. crystals are just as good as pearls, WRONG i have never seen a crystal tune -9 force over 115 damage


you are partially correct here. I have crystals that have tuned to those stats, so they can tune just as well as pearls in that case, however I have noticed that they tend not to have as good a speed mod on them.


myth 3. pearls arent dropping WRONG im in DKA guild on ahazi, the other night i joined in a DKA guild krayt hunt for the noobs, just hanging with guildies having fun, i mean, im not in competition with my guildies, in pvp i want the jedi next to me to be just as good if not better, anyway, i could only stay an hour, 1st hour , 8 good pearls, from all ranges and level of krayts, we killed them all.


Yep, pearls are dropping just as they always have been(as far as frequency, obviously no high qualities dropping still).


and finally the my favorite myth of all


myth 4. if i sit and cry and whine on the jediforums long enough, the devs are going to give me 4 flawless perfectly tuned pearls, WRONG.


Agree


you new jedi as far as pearls arent going trough anything the rest of us didnt already go through. the problem is it took you 2 weeks or less to grind your jedi, now you should park him in the garage, stop wasting money on pearls crystals, get a 8 man group, and go hunt hunt hunt hunt hunt hunt hunt hnunt until you get 4 great tuned,then play with your jedi


or go play with your jedi, keep whining, and make a bh rich, its your jedi, its up to you.













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