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Thread: What is the best template against BH besides running?
Don_T_Shoot wrote:
I've heard that about powers alot lately. I've heard some good stories about MP vs BH encounters.
The main concern coming up is the Jedi will have to get lucky by way of the BH making a mistake (assuming the BH has a greater range than pistols yet stayed in the 32m zone) or just by way of the BH being clueless, because closing the gap at walking speed is not possible.
The Jedi's only hope is to get a wave or suppression on the BH before the BH gets back out of range. Of course that won't be possible if the Jedi is snared at a greater range than 32m in the first place.
Either way, these bragging blowhards that make up war stories about how uber they are will have to stop exaggerating and begin outright lying when they talk about how many BH's they've killed because Jedi will get real crappy real fast if this Beta junk goes through.
i was hunting a MPowers the other day. his temp was a Mpowers/def 4040/enhancer 3402/healer 4000 (as i stated previously). as a BH/CM i have to get up to 9m to paralyze him. because of his Force run/suppresion/wave i couldnt get that clouse even with a SNare! (it was one of those unfortant times that it had been in a city and he saw me shuttle in). with out getting with in 9m i couldnt Debuff him which means i had to totally use my rifle/dots his mind stayed high enogth for him not to worry about healing and due to kiteing/choke/powers i had no chance. id Kd him and have to run 32m in a few seconds in which if i got with in 15m hed use force suppresion run off and cloak till he was once again behind me or something. personally i say he used his template Extreamly effectively but as i said before powers may not be good for Jedi vs jedi combat but they are B!tch's to kill for some Non jedi template's
groundcrew wrote:
GunFu wrote:
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The logical template to me would be the one that offers the most ranged defense.
LOL if ranged def wasn't bugged, LOL. Hopefully everyone has seen the post regarding this. I shall repeat it regardless...
Ranged Def ONLY helps if YOU are ranged. AKA using a ranged Weapon.
Melee Def ONLY helps if YOU are Melee. AKA saber or other Melee weapon.
These statements have been tested repeatdly on every server I know. Don't waste SPs on the X4XX tree in Def if you're not also gettig it for the Innate Armor or going MD. Also don't bother w/ ranged Def. Foods. Test it yourself, most ppl have modified their templates b/c of this. To my knowledge this isn't working as intended, but infact a bug. Of course the XXX4 tree in Def still ups your blocking, combined w/ MLS and vayorblock food, you will be much harder to hit.
shadowdragon2k wrote:
lol Firelight25 check both my Post's
ya, posting in a few forums and editing some code for work, took awhile to post.
Mls+master enhancer
Never been killed since the cu with this temp.
Message Edited by Twilekku on 10-13-2005 05:24 PM
menxx wrote:
Mls+master enhancer
Never been killed since the cu with this temp.
Master Enh had to "allow" a BH to kill him. Stasis is the end all be all of PvP powers. Nothing like pausing your rival for 30secs. Not to mention the oooohhh so wonderful KD/Stasis Exploit nearly every ME uses now. Yes you can get out of it, but for a BH that can't heal on the ground, those few seconds spell death. And of course w/ Stasis and FR3, not like they have an option. Most ppl have to outnumber, or get in a very lucky surprise attack to take our a ME. I know when the patch/expansion lands ppl will be picking up this more and more. Even w/ snare overriding FR and Burst, you can still Stasis, wait, then run. Ya, it sucks you have to shut it off totally in combat or deal lame dmg, but easily worthwhile.
menxx wrote:
Mls+master enhancer
Never been killed since the cu with this temp.
And what are the stats of your saber?
Mpowers own bhs if they only knew but not great for pvp perrty much a support toon for pvp vs jedi other proof mpower stomps the crap out of them.
Ranged Def ONLY helps if YOU are ranged. AKA using a ranged Weapon.
Melee Def ONLY helps if YOU are Melee. AKA saber or other Melee weapon.
These statements have been tested repeatdly on every server I know. Don't waste SPs on the X4XX tree in Def if you're not also gettig it for the Innate Armor or going MD. Also don't bother w/ ranged Def. Foods. Test it yourself, most ppl have modified their templates b/c of this. To my knowledge this isn't working as intended, but infact a bug. Of course the XXX4 tree in Def still ups your blocking, combined w/ MLS and vayorblock food, you will be much harder to hit.
So, just to be Very clear on this, Ive been taking thunder ranged defense drink for nothing?
that unless im currently holding a ranged weapon IN my hand, ranged defense is not added in ANY way what so ever?
What IS Aura then, when It adds +500 ranged and melee defense? Cuz I KNOW that the aura defense IS helping vs ranged. Please to clearify.
Ya, it's upping your melee def. Melee and ranged def are messed up, you need to think of them in dif. terms. You have been wasting the foods, as upping your ranged def does nothing for you, unless you're using a ranged weapon. Here is the deal. Just think of it as 2 def numbers. You have 200 ranged def. and 250 melee. So your def when you are unarmed/melee is higher. It's like switching weapons from a pistol and a rifle. Rifle def only helps while you are using the rifle. Same goes for Melee/Ranged def now. As for Aura, it adds to both, so you should use that on a looping macro.
ALARIA wrote:
LOL if ranged def wasn't bugged, LOL. Hopefully everyone has seen the post regarding this. I shall repeat it regardless...
Ranged Def ONLY helps if YOU are ranged. AKA using a ranged Weapon.
Melee Def ONLY helps if YOU are Melee. AKA saber or other Melee weapon.
These statements have been tested repeatdly on every server I know. Don't waste SPs on the X4XX tree in Def if you're not also gettig it for the Innate Armor or going MD. Also don't bother w/ ranged Def. Foods. Test it yourself, most ppl have modified their templates b/c of this. To my knowledge this isn't working as intended, but infact a bug. Of course the XXX4 tree in Def still ups your blocking, combined w/ MLS and vayorblock food, you will be much harder to hit.
So, just to be Very clear on this, Ive been taking thunder ranged defense drink for nothing?
that unless im currently holding a ranged weapon IN my hand, ranged defense is not added in ANY way what so ever?
What IS Aura then, when It adds +500 ranged and melee defense? Cuz I KNOW that the aura defense IS helping vs ranged. Please to clearify.
Message Edited by xakia on 10-13-2005 09:13 AM