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Thread: Cloak Nerf: A Snare is not needed and is UNACEPTABLE. Bac, please step up about his.
DarthPolecat wrote:
You can't compare a gunin this situation it makes no sense ... and if you can loot cloaked guess what it's working as intended. So how about the devs think before throwing us some random skill ?
Well since they are changeing the looting while cloaked i guess it wasnt working as intended.
ChefRubio wrote:
See thats my thing. People need to learn their skills before they cry nerf or that they are underpowered. I know plenty of powers jedi that are really good at what they do because they know their template.
Most the people from my server that cry nerf or that powers are underpowered etc etc are the ones going around full template with a pvp rating under 1100 and just dont know how to effectively use their template.
Just like the respec bh vs oldschool bh.
Message Edited by ChefRubio on 09-19-2005 02:21 PM
surely mate, u are right, full template jedi can do very well against NON jedi
Against jedi we are nearly worthless, unless MLS MP. the problem will come up together with FRS,when no power jedi will be able to go up a single rank,and we will allbe favourite prey of FOTM templates. And we won't be able to escape from them.
But the main problem, about this nerf, is for uncomplete template jedi. As you obviously are not power, i will explain you that only at full template a power jadi can fight and kill a bh with no problem. Before getting master box, we are harmless, and cloak is our only hope to escape from sure death and xp loss: dev made it so that we have to use it this way, as they made us as cool as weak. Full template power jedi can stay safe, any other power jedi will never, or vey very very rarely hit master box.
Caino wrote:
ChefRubio wrote:
See thats my thing. People need to learn their skills before they cry nerf or that they are underpowered. I know plenty of powers jedi that are really good at what they do because they know their template.
Most the people from my server that cry nerf or that powers are underpowered etc etc are the ones going around full template with a pvp rating under 1100 and just dont know how to effectively use their template.
Just like the respec bh vs oldschool bh.
Message Edited by ChefRubio on 09-19-2005 02:21 PM
surely mate, u are right, full template jedi can do very well against NON jedi
Against jedi we are nearly worthless, unless MLS MP. the problem will come up together with FRS,when no power jedi will be able to go up a single rank,and we will allbe favourite prey of FOTM templates. And we won't be able to escape from them.
But the main problem, about this nerf, is for uncomplete template jedi. As you obviously are not power, i will explain you that only at full template a power jadi can fight and kill a bh with no problem. Before getting master box, we are harmless, and cloak is our only hope to escape from sure death and xp loss: dev made it so that we have to use it this way, as they made us as cool as weak. Full template power jedi can stay safe, any other power jedi will never, or vey very very rarely hit master box.
How do you know? You are currently at PADAWAN levels. You have no idea what kind of bonuses Powers will get in the darkside FRS. you're not supposed to be uber right now. you're a padawan. Not a knight, not a sentinal, not a guardian, not a master, and definately not an overlord/chancellor. I'm sorry, but full template non FRS jedi were about as strong as they are right now pre patch 9. Devs really need to start rushing the FRS so we can see the potent of our powers so people know what to cry about.
KRAKEN666 wrote:
hi end loot? to get any high end loot you are supposed to kill a high end mob. and thats not always the case. we are getting worthless junk off of high end mobs now. the only exception is the vette missions and the dwb. a simple fix of /loot command not being able to function while cloaked would simplify this whole mess. but now soe now brings out that this is a first strike capability. what b.s. I dont have powers at all, but I am sick and tired of soe just swinging the nerf bat at our obi wan pinata.
Message Edited by DarthPolecat on 09-19-2005 11:38 AM
Caino wrote:
ChefRubio wrote:
See thats my thing. People need to learn their skills before they cry nerf or that they are underpowered. I know plenty of powers jedi that are really good at what they do because they know their template.
Most the people from my server that cry nerf or that powers are underpowered etc etc are the ones going around full template with a pvp rating under 1100 and just dont know how to effectively use their template.
Just like the respec bh vs oldschool bh.
Message Edited by ChefRubio on 09-19-2005 02:21 PM
surely mate, u are right, full template jedi can do very well against NON jedi
Against jedi we are nearly worthless, unless MLS MP. the problem will come up together with FRS,when no power jedi will be able to go up a single rank,and we will allbe favourite prey of FOTM templates. And we won't be able to escape from them.
But the main problem, about this nerf, is for uncomplete template jedi. As you obviously are not power, i will explain you that only at full template a power jadi can fight and kill a bh with no problem. Before getting master box, we are harmless, and cloak is our only hope to escape from sure death and xp loss: dev made it so that we have to use it this way, as they made us as cool as weak. Full template power jedi can stay safe, any other power jedi will never, or vey very very rarely hit master box.
thats why they need to give jedi a base set of skills at padawan. Some ls ability, some defense, some powers like push or pull maybe run, some healing, and some enhancement like channel. Then all templetes would be valuable. Of course the base set of skills would not be as powerfull as those granted when going up the different template trees. Then i dont think we would need to worry about cloak getting nerfed to uselessness or any other skill for that matter. Of course another answer would just be to get rid of the whole bh jedi pvp. And also make it so the new FRS isnt soely about pvp. Add in other ways to advance besides pvp rank and we wouldnt see so many angry posts regarding nerfs. Its also more likely that if the pvp was not the only option then less people would use skill other than the way they were intended and there would be no need for nerfs. Just my opinion anyway.
Chefrubio,you miss the point:
NO power jedi will ever raise a single step on FRS, because we have no way to kill another jedi.So they can also put a "destroy planet" button in power tree: noone will ever get it. Moreover, nerfing cloak most of us won't be able to survive ANY combat with opposite faction jedi. Even urforce wielders friends.Do u see what i mean?
Message Edited by abbink on 09-19-200511:47 AM
Message Edited by abbink on 09-19-2005 11:47 AM
Caino wrote:
Chefrubio,you miss the point:
NO power jedi will ever raise a single step on FRS, because we have no way to kill another jedi.So they can also put a "destroy planet" button in power tree: noone will ever get it. Moreover, nerfing cloak most of us won't be able to survive ANY combat with opposite faction jedi. Even urforce wielders friends.Do u see what i mean?
a) who said the new frs will be 100% pvp based?
b) you cant pvp in groups and do area attack so that you get FRS off multiple opponents, and manage to stay alive?
Jedi hasnt been hard to obtain or grind since patch 9
DaxHerder wrote:
/agreed
C'mon guys this is the Jedi class. It is very hard to be Jedi, and why for a bunch of nerfed up abilities??? Leave some things nice in the class and make it more enjoyable to play. In my opinion just nerf the looting while stealthed and thats it. Dont make people grind up all the XP for a bunch of nerfed up abilities. If leaving stealth as it is will not break the game then just let peeps have something nice... remember the original ideas of how powerful Jedi were supposed to be? Stop nit picking the class!!!!!