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Thread: Cloak Nerf: A Snare is not needed and is UNACEPTABLE. Bac, please step up about his.
Caino wrote:
Bac, cloak has become an escape button for the simple reason that all cloakers that are not force wielders use it mostly to loot without problems, and those who are force wielders are too weak to fight ANYONE until master, and still unable to fight jedi when they are master ( i will laugh a lot when frs will be up )
Do they want to solve these problems? they can:
1- make impossible to loot from cloaked
2- take this skill away from the game, together with power tree as it will be useless
well....the third case is that dev team want most jedi to quit, so that they can put a remedy to the mistake they did makeing jedi slot easy to unlock.
why should a jedi who is too weak to defend himself be able to manipulate the force enough to make himself completely disappear from someone during combat
ChefRubio wrote:
i dunno i normally see overt groups standing around in cities...shouldnt be that hard
lol, obvoiusly you have no idea how bad this skill will drain your force. You put a snare like the one on AI and I can assure you by the time you get next to one of these overt groups you'll be 50-25% force left. I've through cities and my force drains fast.
It will not be a viable first strike attack EVER if the snare is implented in the same way as AI.....not unless you plan to send a tell to your victim and ask them to meet you in a secluded spot so you can surprise attack them. I mean it'll take you about 5 mins to crawl to them still but eventually you'll make it.
felipz wrote:
DarthPolecat wrote:
Blame all the cloakers that abused this skill, I.E. Cloak looting
Blame the devs for making an ability without thinking of the consequences ?
A gun is an object that can be abused but it is also a tool that can be used responsibly
ChefRubio wrote:
Caino wrote:
Bac, cloak has become an escape button for the simple reason that all cloakers that are not force wielders use it mostly to loot without problems, and those who are force wielders are too weak to fight ANYONE until master, and still unable to fight jedi when they are master ( i will laugh a lot when frs will be up )
Do they want to solve these problems? they can:
1- make impossible to loot from cloaked
2- take this skill away from the game, together with power tree as it will be useless
well....the third case is that dev team want most jedi to quit, so that they can put a remedy to the mistake they did makeing jedi slot easy to unlock.
why should a jedi who is too weak to defend himself be able to manipulate the force enough to make himself completely disappear from someone during combat
you should address this question to our dev team or corr,mate
wow thats why our guild has people that sit in player cities for extended time with cloak on. If you know where to be sitting it wont take much force, and it doesnt take that long to get up on them, atleast close enough to give them a good jolt of lightning
See thats my thing. People need to learn their skills before they cry nerf or that they are underpowered. I know plenty of powers jedi that are really good at what they do because they know their template.
Most the people from my server that cry nerf or that powers are underpowered etc etc are the ones going around full template with a pvp rating under 1100 and just dont know how to effectively use their template.
Just like the respec bh vs oldschool bh.
Message Edited by ChefRubio on 09-19-2005 02:21 PM
ChefRubio wrote:
wow thats why our guild has people that sit in player cities for extended time with cloak on. If you know where to be sitting it wont take much force, and it currently doesnt take that long to get up on them, atleast close enough to give them a good jolt of lightning
DarthPolecat wrote:
felipz wrote:
DarthPolecat wrote:
Blame all the cloakers that abused this skill, I.E. Cloak looting
Blame the devs for making an ability without thinking of the consequences ?
A gun is an object that can be abused but it is also a tool that can be used responsibly
QFE
ChefRubio wrote:
See thats my thing. People need to learn their skills before they cry nerf or that they are underpowered. I know plenty of powers jedi that are really good at what they do because they know their template.
Most the people from my server that cry nerf or that powers are underpowered etc etc are the ones going around full template with a pvp rating under 1100 and just dont know how to effectively use their template.
Just like the respec bh vs oldschool bh.
ChefRubio wrote:
See thats my thing. People need to learn their skills before they cry nerf or that they are underpowered. I know plenty of powers jedi that are really good at what they do because they know their template.
Most the people from my server that cry nerf or that powers are underpowered etc etc are the ones going around full template with a pvp rating under 1100 and just dont know how to effectively use their template.
Just like the respec bh vs oldschool bh.
Message Edited by ChefRubio on 09-19-2005 02:21 PM
This has nothing to do with really being underpowered, it has to do with one skill and will it still be viable after being snared. The answer is no, not by the intended design stated by the devs. Alpha strike requires you to be able to get into range and surprise your enemy (just like BH's), are you saying BH's should be snared the moment theyget within 100m of a Jedi? After all we don't know if they are a BH or not so it's still technically an alpha strike whether or not they appear on our radar or not.
Message Edited by TajJunak on 09-19-2005 01:30 PM
Well since they are changeing the looting while cloaked i guess it wasnt working as intended.