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Thread: I need smart people to help me test why we're going through Force so fast.

Xeovar
Thu Sep 01, 2005 2:59 am
#27

What about upkeep costs ? Run for example eats force when activated and then keeps ticking some force all the time its active .. maybe that's what was upped ?
Or we are left with the random force leak bug explanation.



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redefix
Thu Sep 01, 2005 3:03 am
#28

same here force running out when i fight the bh /cm were i normaly kill them it seems like the force cost is much higher now
Akast
Thu Sep 01, 2005 3:13 am
#29

i had a jedi mission last night, i caught him at pickets, apparently his force was at 20% he took a holocron, and i had him in a big healing loop but in less than 5 mins he was out of force n had to run off he was freaking out about it



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LandonRyuu
Thu Sep 01, 2005 3:14 am
#30



Akast wrote:
i had a jedi mission last night, i caught him at pickets, apparently his force was at 20% he took a holocron, and i had him in a big healing loop but in less than 5 mins he was out of force n had to run off he was freaking out about it





Interesting, thx for the info.
Xeovar
Thu Sep 01, 2005 3:15 am
#31



LandonRyuu wrote:


Xeovar wrote:
What about upkeep costs ? Run for example eats force when activated and then keeps ticking some force all the time its active .. maybe that's what was upped ?
Or we are left with the random force leak bug explanation.




I have basic run and it ticks for 5 Force every ten seconds.

Which brings my regen rate down 5, from 55 to 50.

Has it always been 5 every 10?




That seems unchanged.
So, the only explanation that makes sense now is the random force leak bug... or maybe regen reduction while in combat....



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lajduke
Thu Sep 01, 2005 3:17 am
#32






LandonRyuu wrote:





Xeovar wrote:
What about upkeep costs ? Run for example eats force when activated and then keeps ticking some force all the time its active .. maybe that's what was upped ?
Or we are left with the random force leak bug explanation.






I have basic run and it ticks for 5 Force every ten seconds.

Which brings my regen rate down 5, from 55 to 50.

Has it always been 5 every 10?





The upkeep cost for FR/Cloak seems like the same coding, Im thinking maybe a bug here. Try standing around alota people with FR on. I just tested it with 1 person beside me, and it was 5fc every 10seconds. (Thats FR3)


I tested some attacks, I dont see anything wrong with the numbers, only in one place I saw something strange.


(These were done with a 9FC saber/100SAC)


Advancer Saber Throw - 8%Action - 2%Mind - 34FC


Improved Saber Armor Break - 12%Action - 2%Mind - 34FC


Improved Saber Blind - 10%Action -2%Mind - 27FC


Improved Saber Body Hit - 8%Action - 2%Mind - 29FC/24FC


Improved Saber Head Hit - 8%Action - 2%Mind - 24FC



What appeared strange to me was Saber Body Hit.A common move, used by prettymuch all jedi. Its FC seemed to change each time I did it. One time it would cost 29, the next 24, and alternate. I didnt see any large numbers, but the fact that the FC on that move changed almost everytime I used it is VERY strange.






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LandonRyuu
Thu Sep 01, 2005 3:52 am
#33



lajduke wrote:


LandonRyuu wrote:


Xeovar wrote:
What about upkeep costs ? Run for example eats force when activated and then keeps ticking some force all the time its active .. maybe that's what was upped ?
Or we are left with the random force leak bug explanation.




I have basic run and it ticks for 5 Force every ten seconds.

Which brings my regen rate down 5, from 55 to 50.

Has it always been 5 every 10?


The upkeep cost for FR/Cloak seems like the same coding, Im thinking maybe a bug here. Try standing around alota people with FR on. I just tested it with 1 person beside me, and it was 5fc every 10seconds. (Thats FR3)

I tested some attacks, I dont see anything wrong with the numbers, only in one place I saw something strange.

(These were done with a 9FC saber/100SAC)

Advancer Saber Throw - 8%Action - 2%Mind - 34FC

Improved Saber Armor Break - 12%Action - 2%Mind - 34FC

Improved Saber Blind - 10%Action -2%Mind - 27FC

Improved Saber Body Hit - 8%Action - 2%Mind - 29FC/24FC

Improved Saber Head Hit - 8%Action - 2%Mind - 24FC

What appeared strange to me was Saber Body Hit.A common move, used by prettymuch all jedi. Its FC seemed to change each time I did it. One time it would cost 29, the next 24, and alternate. I didnt see any large numbers, but the fact that the FC on that move changed almost everytime I used it is VERY strange.






VERY good, we're making some progress here, FC for a move should never change at ALL.

I hope Bac makes this a sticky and checks it out, for the rest of you please keep an eye on your character sheet for the next day while you duel, fight, etc. We really need to pin this down.

Great work.
LuckyB
Thu Sep 01, 2005 4:44 am
#34

i think its kinda hit and miss, i was hunting nightsisters last night, all levels all types, i had the most trouble out of the sentinals of course level 84, they where hitting me around 260ish, funny thing is they where hurting me and drasining force fast but then i tanked 6 varis level singing moutain clan using spin attack while my padiwan learner was assisting me, and i was losingh minamal force taking miniamal damage, it went on like that all night some mobs would really hurt on force then the exact same mob would fall no problem minamal force cost and i was using the exact same moves all the time. ???



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Runobot
Thu Sep 01, 2005 4:47 am
#35

I know for a fact one thing that is causing this, I checked it this morning. You can now use Aura multiple times in a row. Say you have 30 seconds left on Aura, then run it again, it will reset the timer. I used to run multiple aura macros, but no need anymore.



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Goddess101
Thu Sep 01, 2005 4:49 am
#36

wat? u cant run mutliple force auras at once...






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DocSavag
Thu Sep 01, 2005 4:55 am
#37

I must admit I didn't notice any issues last night but my template is still very low level. I did'nt bother wearing the robes because its been documented that the regen doesn't work on them right now. I didn't notice any measurable difference in the regen which for me is extremely bad anyway. Is it possible there is a connection between those of you who have noticed it? Aura is mentioned alot but I don't know if others of you have aura or not.



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lajduke
Thu Sep 01, 2005 4:56 am
#38






DocSavag wrote:
I must admit I didn't notice any issues last night but my template is still very low level. I did'nt bother wearing the robes because its been documented that the regen doesn't work on them right now. I didn't notice any measurable difference in the regen which for me is extremely bad anyway. Is it possible there is a connection between those of you who have noticed it? Aura is mentioned alot but I don't know if others of you have aura or not.




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Goddess101
Thu Sep 01, 2005 5:05 am
#39

my force is fine and i hve aura / infusion running on macros all the time...




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