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Thread: Jedi Temples!! A New FRS Proposal bringing Star Wars content to Jedi Knights

Zorron
Sun Jul 10, 2005 12:55 pm
#27

Good morning on a Sunday and BUMP



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Zorron
Sun Jul 10, 2005 1:46 pm
#28

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Zorron
Mon Jul 11, 2005 1:12 am
#29






alpinestreams wrote:

What if Jedi Knight Players could trade frs points? ... What if you could BUILD your OWN temples which gave a certain amount of benefit to the players listed on the terminal or something ... then you could organise raids on each other's temples which could result in the lowering of the bonusses for the members of THAT temple ... mmm?






That's another idea, that mirrors the way the GCW works but for Jedi...I think it would be too unstructured to achieve all the goals I set out in my OP though.



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DarkWit
Mon Jul 11, 2005 1:28 am
#30

i think he did it to get post



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Miffo
Mon Jul 11, 2005 1:36 am
#31

i dont think PvE farming is the answer to non fightclub FRS , you'll have same effect of fightclubbing , 1 group in there 24/7 outcasting any1 others , making sure they cant get ranked etc. Even if you get lvl 500 npc's in there they will still by easely killed bya group of 8 so i dont think PvE is the answer. Its the same as saying , every1 rank in the FRS requires 10mill jedi experiences. ANy grinding noob could get jedi master then its worthless.



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Lymail
Mon Jul 11, 2005 1:51 am
#32

Its not a bad idea, but not really starwars like ...



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Jillzar
Mon Jul 11, 2005 1:58 am
#33


Intresting Idea. But what about those people who dont want to PvP for frs. Would thier also be a way to get frs by running misisons from npcs at these temples? I myself like to pvp but I know many Jedi who really enjoy RPing. Also would this new system cap on number of jedi at each level. This seems kinda lame if it does. The fact everyone is a jedi now makes getting into a full concil level almost impossible. If the cap is not removed it would be nice to at least see it raised. Something else about those missions. It would be nice if those temples would have mission terminals that would spawn high level mobs that would drop jedi only loot. By this I mean premi crytals or pearls, ca for Jedi skills ie: ls, blocking etc


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Message Edited by Jillzar on 07-11-2005 04:03 AM



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Zorron
Mon Jul 11, 2005 1:59 am
#34






Miffo wrote:

i dont think PvE farming is the answer to non fightclub FRS , you'll have same effect of fightclubbing , 1 group in there 24/7 outcasting any1 others , making sure they cant get ranked etc. Even if you get lvl 500 npc's in there they will still by easely killed bya group of 8 so i dont think PvE is the answer. Its the same as saying , every1 rank in the FRS requires 10mill jedi experiences. ANy grinding noob could get jedi master then its worthless.






I don't think you have read my post carefully enough. You get ZERO FRS EXPERIENCE for killing the Temple NPC's. They are just there as part of theobstacles you need to overcome toturn the temple andto cause a delay in the turning so others can organize.


I reiterate, in my proposal, the only source of FRS experience is from killing opposing side Knights within Temple grounds during vulnerability windows. If you don't want to lose your rank to the maintenance costs, you'd better be busy attacking and defending temples, because if you don't, the Knights on the other side will be.


This is a proposal that makes Jedi *work* for their rank, and rewards PVP skill, courage and organization with FRS points and ranks.





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Zorron
Mon Jul 11, 2005 2:03 am
#35






Jillzar wrote:

Intresting Idea. But what about those people who dont want to PvP for frs. Would thier also be a way to get frs by running misisons from npcs at these temples? I myself like to pvp but I know many Jedi who really enjoy RPing. Also would this new system cap on number of jedi at each level. This seems kinda lame if it does. The fact everyone is a jedi now makes getting into a full concil level almost impossible. If the cap is not removed it would be nice to at least see it lowered. Something else about those missions. It would be nice if those temples would have mission terminals that would spawn high level mobs that would drop jedi only loot. By this I mean premi crytals or pearls, ca for Jedi skills ie: ls, blocking etc


Cybelia Jedi Knight







Frankly I don't think there should be any other way to gain FRS other than Jedi vs Sith PVP. However, your idea to add quest givers that are not related to the FRS struggleis an interesting extension to the temples idea.


Obviously you don't want alerts going off when Knights go in to pick up a non-FRS related quest, so the alerts have to be triggered when a Temple NPC is attacked.





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Jillzar
Mon Jul 11, 2005 2:07 am
#36


mmm Confused by what do you mean temple npc? I dont want to see the days of people camping spawns return. I think that was one of the stupidist things SOE allowed to have happen. These missions should be obtained and finshed something likeyou do for the grevious missions on Kash so that mobs are not camped.


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Message Edited by Jillzar on 07-11-2005 04:12 AM



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Zorron
Mon Jul 11, 2005 2:25 am
#37






Jillzar wrote:


mmm Confused by what do you mean temple npc? I dont want to see the days of people camping spawns return. I think that was one of the stupidist things SOE allowed to have happen. These missions should be obtained and finshed something likeyou do for the grevious missions on Kash so that mobs are not camped.


Cybelia Jedi Knight



Message Edited by Jillzar on 07-11-200504:12 AM





At any given time, each Temple is aligned either to Light or Dark side. Each Temple has a set of NPC's inside - Padawans, Knights and a council of Masters.


Most of the time, these NPC's are not attackable. They only become attackable during vulnerability windows, which last two hours and open every between 12 and 24 hours.Because the opening of the vulnerability window is randomized, you can'teffectively camp it or put it on a timer.



Killing the NPC's does not yield any rewards in terms of loot or FRS experience. However, a group of Knights that wants to turn a temple has to kill all the NPC's in order to start the 30-minute countdown.



Attacking any one of those Temple NPC's alerts opposite side Knights to the fact that the particular Temple is vulnerable and is under attack. As a result, Knights from both sides descend upon that Temple, seeking FRS experience for themselves and victory - which brings more power - for their side.



All of this (temples, vulnerability windows, NPC's etc.) cannot be camped for any advantage. It is merely a functional and pretty backdrop that serves the grand purpose it was designed for - tobe thescene for intense and hard-fought Jedi vs Sith PVP, out of sight of non-Jedi players.




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Jillzar
Mon Jul 11, 2005 2:36 am
#38

Seems lame sorry. I mean this is no more then us haning out in starportsas a gank squad. Only we now do it around some stupid temple.Thier is zero content added other then gank squading. And it still does not address Council ranks filling and never being able to advance.


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Zorron
Mon Jul 11, 2005 2:59 am
#39






Jillzar wrote:

Seems lame sorry. I mean this is no more then us haning out in starportsas a gank squad. Only we now do it around some stupid temple.Thier is zero content added other then gank squading. And it still does not address Council ranks filling and never being able to advance.


Cybelia Jedi Knight








This is no more than hanging out in starports as a gank squad? What are you smoking?


Did you actually prefer the old system which allowed people to get together in a private guildhall, and then come outone hour later, each of themwith aheftyloadof newly acquired FRS experience?


Also, your statement about Council ranks filling and never being able to advancewas never true in theory because of maintenance costs, and if it was ever true in practice, it was because the old system allowed some people to fight club and gain unfair advantage over those who did not.





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