Jedi Archive
Thread: Smedley Speaks, and you can be heard
Kitoth
Wed Nov 09, 2005 5:05 pm
#27
I would like to see actual statistics to verify the subscription numbers and trendshe refers to. But then we know that SOE has kept their actual numbers a closely guarded secret since the first 6 months of the game's launch.
I sent an email to the editor asking the press to challenge SOE for those numbers to prove that what they say is the case, because the actual experience of players in-game (as we all know) is vastly different.
Chawncy
Wed Nov 09, 2005 5:11 pm
#28
Ameno wrote:
i was just thinking about it, smedley was actually in a movie.. remember theshi't monster from Dogma?
Message Edited by Ameno on 11-09-2005 07:03 PM
You're right! I think he was in Weird Science too!
Akel
Wed Nov 09, 2005 5:19 pm
#29
I would like to take a moment to reply to the interview posted with Mr. Smedley of SOE.
I am a veteran player of Star Wars Galaxies, with well over 2 years of play time at approx 2 – 6 hours per day. My wife and I both play and are extremely aggravated by the recent changes for the following reasons:
SOE never made any announcement regarding the revamp or rehash until a day after everyone had purchased their expansion of which according to my conversion testing, most of the items introduced there are being rendered useless or obsolete. The player base was baited into purchasing an expansion full of rewards that are now converted to useless paper weights.
The promise of Jedi exclusivity and then revocation of that are a slap in the face to veteran players who unlocked under the original system and endured the strife and hardship in order to reap the rewards promised, only to have them snatched from us, so it can be given out like candy to the masses. This represents complete fraud to those players who worked hard w/in the current and previous rule set to obtain.
Making massive changes to the live game, not once, but twice in less than a year is under minding the community’s trust in SOE as well as completely toppling the economy and hard work put into this game by its player base. My wife and I and countless others in our guild have spend hundreds of millions of credits building our characters based on the framework and rules that pre-existed, now all that work is lost. It’s not a minor hassle; it is a complete wipeout of all that we have worked hard to obtain. Why should we work our way back up? It’s been torn from the community twice. I have no confidence that this will not occur again.
Condensing professions have wiped out the one thing that made Galaxies unique and fun to play. Dumbing down classes into 9 iconic routes will cost SOE countless subscriptions after it goes live. Not because we hate the enhancements, but because they are no longer needed. As an example, I have the following characters: Jedi, BioEngineer/Chef, Merchant/Dancer, and Bounty Hunter. My wife has an Artisan/Doctor, Jedi, Creature handler/Pikeman. That totals 5 accounts. With this upgrade I will keep my Jedi as will she. I will make my now defunct BioEng/Chef a merchant specializing in domestics, and cancel my bounty hunter as there are no more player bounties to hunt and my dancer/merchant as it is no longer needed. She will cancel her creature handler as there is no such profession now and cancel her artisan as there is no need since my merchant specializing in domestics can do everything she used to do. There are three 15.00/mo subscriptions gone, even if we love the game.
I have played the NGE extensively in test center, and although I agree with the face paced combat that has resulted, I am very disappointed in the death of one of the most unique and captivating games I have ever played. It is not just the few doom and gloom nay Sayers on the forums. Log on to Bria, the largest server, and listen to the crickets in the once most populated cities and locations… The server is all but dead, and this happen w/in 6 hours of the announcement of the changes that the player base supposedly wanted.
I will stay on and try the New Game Enhancements, but with the current track record of SOE and what I have seen of the current conversion process from the current system to the new… I do not believe I, nor many in my guild will have the gumption to waste our time rebuilding everything we have lost for a 3rd time in hopes that SOE will maintain a stable and balanced game. In addition, our consolidation of no longer needed accounts will cost SOE thousands over the player base, as I can guarantee it will not be just a small group of cancellations once the player base realizes the reality of what is taking place.
Just my two cents…
Sincerely
Monci
Wed Nov 09, 2005 5:27 pm
#30
MsNiL wrote:
I have quite alot of business experience with both game development and corporations, so I am very attuned to what he is saying. I believe he's alot more honest about the changes and underlying reasons than what's normal in this business.
Ameno wrote:
and you even remotely agree with that bull**edit** he spewed about jedi?
MsNiL wrote:
I do not disagree with his post at all.
The main issue with NGE is the horrible interface, not the vision.
Some of the interview is even positive with regards to the future plans.
The only thing I do notentirely relate tois "There are a lot of different levels within that [profession], so the people who've been [working down the Jedi path] for a long time will be much more powerful than the people just coming up. We're still rewarding people for their loyalty over the years" since you can respec to Jedi after grinding a carbineer in less than 2 weeks.
Lol I swear you probely have SOE undies at home. Are you vying for Tiggs old job lol, keep it up and you just might get it.
MauiBeach
Wed Nov 09, 2005 5:30 pm
#31
p897t98 wrote:
"But SOE didn't experience any drop off subscriber numbers. On the contrary, Galaxies continued to grow faster than any other title run by SOE." - LIES
"We're still rewarding people for their loyalty over the years." - LIES
"It's mixed. It's very positive [feedback] from the people who are actually playing it." - LIES
""Once people get in there, it's overwhelmingly positive" - LIES
"Despite some of the rhetoric coming from the existing player base, we've not noticed any rise in people canceling their subscriptions. It's just a very small, very vocal minority." - LIES
"People assume that 'accessibility' means 'dumbing it down' and it means nothing of the sort." - LIES
"One of the nice things about the changes we're making is that the platform for the game will be stronger and be giving the game more longevity." - LIES
Shugard
Wed Nov 09, 2005 5:39 pm
#32
Akel wrote:
I would like to take a moment to reply to the interview posted with Mr. Smedley of SOE.
I am a veteran player of Star Wars Galaxies, with well over 2 years of play time at approx 2 – 6 hours per day. My wife and I both play and are extremely aggravated by the recent changes for the following reasons:
SOE never made any announcement regarding the revamp or rehash until a day after everyone had purchased their expansion of which according to my conversion testing, most of the items introduced there are being rendered useless or obsolete. The player base was baited into purchasing an expansion full of rewards that are now converted to useless paper weights.
The promise of Jedi exclusivity and then revocation of that are a slap in the face to veteran players who unlocked under the original system and endured the strife and hardship in order to reap the rewards promised, only to have them snatched from us, so it can be given out like candy to the masses. This represents complete fraud to those players who worked hard w/in the current and previous rule set to obtain.
Making massive changes to the live game, not once, but twice in less than a year is under minding the community’s trust in SOE as well as completely toppling the economy and hard work put into this game by its player base. My wife and I and countless others in our guild have spend hundreds of millions of credits building our characters based on the framework and rules that pre-existed, now all that work is lost. It’s not a minor hassle; it is a complete wipeout of all that we have worked hard to obtain. Why should we work our way back up? It’s been torn from the community twice. I have no confidence that this will not occur again.
Condensing professions have wiped out the one thing that made Galaxies unique and fun to play. Dumbing down classes into 9 iconic routes will cost SOE countless subscriptions after it goes live. Not because we hate the enhancements, but because they are no longer needed. As an example, I have the following characters: Jedi, BioEngineer/Chef, Merchant/Dancer, and Bounty Hunter. My wife has an Artisan/Doctor, Jedi, Creature handler/Pikeman. That totals 5 accounts. With this upgrade I will keep my Jedi as will she. I will make my now defunct BioEng/Chef a merchant specializing in domestics, and cancel my bounty hunter as there are no more player bounties to hunt and my dancer/merchant as it is no longer needed. She will cancel her creature handler as there is no such profession now and cancel her artisan as there is no need since my merchant specializing in domestics can do everything she used to do. There are three 15.00/mo subscriptions gone, even if we love the game.
I have played the NGE extensively in test center, and although I agree with the face paced combat that has resulted, I am very disappointed in the death of one of the most unique and captivating games I have ever played. It is not just the few doom and gloom nay Sayers on the forums. Log on to Bria, the largest server, and listen to the crickets in the once most populated cities and locations… The server is all but dead, and this happen w/in 6 hours of the announcement of the changes that the player base supposedly wanted.
I will stay on and try the New Game Enhancements, but with the current track record of SOE and what I have seen of the current conversion process from the current system to the new… I do not believe I, nor many in my guild will have the gumption to waste our time rebuilding everything we have lost for a 3rd time in hopes that SOE will maintain a stable and balanced game. In addition, our consolidation of no longer needed accounts will cost SOE thousands over the player base, as I can guarantee it will not be just a small group of cancellations once the player base realizes the reality of what is taking place.
Just my two cents…
Sincerely
/sign
Great post, I whole heartedly agree with it
Blaakhammer
Wed Nov 09, 2005 6:02 pm
#33
MsNiL wrote:
I do not disagree with his post at all.
The main issue with NGE is the horrible interface, not the vision.
I beg your pardon Sir...did we read the same interview? This man hasjustflat out LIED to the world..call it spin if u like, wher i come from we call it.... LIEING...Webster defines it as.../to not tell the truth as known\....show me ANYWHERE in the forums where I can read POSTITIVE feedback on CU2....
And i must add this..to trivialize and catorogize everyone that posts negitively about the changes made to this game as.."THE SKY IS FALLING CROUD" is just plain insulting..
Ameno
Wed Nov 09, 2005 6:13 pm
#35
Metalsaber wrote:
everytime i see a picture of him, he just looks like a liar
he just looks like one of those people.. you just have this urge to beat up... for no reason at all.
MsNiL
Wed Nov 09, 2005 6:17 pm
#37
Blaakhammer wrote:
I beg your pardon Sir...did we read the same interview? This man hasjustflat out LIED to the world..call it spin if u like, wher i come from we call it.... LIEING...Webster defines it as.../to not tell the truth as known\....show me ANYWHERE in the forums where I can read POSTITIVE feedback on CU2....
That do not mean I defend him or soe.
Message Edited by MsNiL on 11-10-2005 02:18 AM
Dekka1
Wed Nov 09, 2005 6:18 pm
#38
In other words, you don't know who's in the minority either. Kthnxfor saying nothing.
MsNiL wrote:
This game have a very strong silent minority. Whenyou see an issue we are upset about, it's often the same players posting about it over and over again while positive gamers only post once or twice then go back to play the game. With the high forumcount of the "negative" posters, it's easy for a forumdweller to believe they represent the "large mass" when they in fact are no more than a few hundred players next to maybe two-threehundred thousand players.
Blaakhammer wrote:
I beg your pardon Sir...did we read the same interview? This man hasjustflat out LIED to the world..call it spin if u like, wher i come from we call it.... LIEING...Webster defines it as.../to not tell the truth as known\....show me ANYWHERE in the forums where I can read POSTITIVE feedback on CU2....
And i must add this..to trivialize and catorogize everyone that posts negitively about the changes made to this game as.."THE SKY IS FALLING CROUD" is just plain insulting.
Ameno
Wed Nov 09, 2005 6:20 pm
#39
he does make a point, minorty is a just a bull**edit** word tossed in when someone doesn't have any real hard numbers to back it up with. and if thats the case, and we the people that actually know the forums exist, see whats coming and fear it, how bad do you think the people that log in nov15th and see a completely new game and their work toasted in front of their very eyes are goign to feel? i somehow dont' think it'll be "positive"