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Thread: Anakin was the Chosen One

Lastrights007
Tue Nov 01, 2005 6:34 am
#27


That is the whole point the prophecy is shrouded by unclarity. It states that a jedi will come to bring balance to the force technically at the time of Anakin I can only assume they think he is the one to fulfill the prophecy because of his connection to the force and the conflict between the Jedi Order and the Galactic Senate. In Anakin's time period the Jedi are a thriving religion and out of balance towards the light side of the force if anything. It never clearly states what Mace Windu is refering to when he makes the statement to Qui-Gon "So you believe this boy is the one that will bring balance to the Force?". So when Anakin goes on his rampage he shifts the balance of the force completed to the other side so he never balances the force he shifts it from one extreme to the other, so the prophecy can not be about Anakin.


I would also like to comment that if by Anakin going to the Dark Side brings balance to the force then there would be no reason to have any further films beyond that it fulfills the prophecy and makes the concept of the movie complete. The reason the movies carry on is so you can see where Luke chooses to spare Darth Vader and not destroying him thereby convincing Anakin to destroy the Emperor which restores the balance of the force. So with out Luke Vader would have never changed and there would have never been balance it is only because of Luke that this is restored. Luke did not do the specific action to bring about the balance but without him it never would have occured therefor the prophecy must be about him hence his importance to the storyline.


Message Edited by Lastrights007 on 11-01-2005 08:37 AM



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Qi_Ali
Tue Nov 01, 2005 6:37 am
#28

yes but the prophecy was created before there was an Empire and even though the Jedi were in control they still wanted balance from what two Sith Lords?
the only way to balance that is to have more Sith Lords.

and yes the prophecy was misread. Anakin fell to the darkside. BUT on this path he fell in love with Padme knocked her up and gave birth to Luke and Leia.

Leia [princess] balances out Palpatine [ Emperor]
Luke [Jedi, son] balances out Vader [Sith, father]

of course this balance lasted for all of three movies.



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Lastrights007
Tue Nov 01, 2005 6:40 am
#29

Qi_Ali you are mistaken the balance had nothing to do with Jedi and Sith when the Jedi Council hears that a Sith Lord attacked Qui-Gon they were shocked. The Sith had not been heard of for quite a long period of time and the Jedi Order believe that they had been hunted to extinction. So the prophecy in the first film they refer would not be a reference to the Sith at all because at the time the Jedi believe the Sith no longer existed.






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Calel_Haven
Tue Nov 01, 2005 6:41 am
#30







Qi_Ali wrote:
yes but the prophecy was created before there was an Empire and even though the Jedi were in control they still wanted balance from what two Sith Lords?
the only way to balance that is to have more Sith Lords.

and yes the prophecy was misread. Anakin fell to the darkside. BUT on this path he fell in love with Padme knocked her up and gave birth to Luke and Leia.

Leia [princess] balances out Palpatine [ Emperor]
Luke [Jedi, son] balances out Vader [Sith, father]

of course this balance lasted for all of three movies.




Prophecies are created before there's much of anything. I'm sure the prophecy was created before even the Jedi order.



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Qi_Ali
Tue Nov 01, 2005 6:47 am
#31

this is confusing.
if they're in control and they don't think the Sith exist what balance were they looking for?
against griefing BHs?



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pydlo
Tue Nov 01, 2005 6:54 am
#32

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Korom
Tue Nov 01, 2005 6:58 am
#33






Qi_Ali wrote:
how would the prophecy be about restoring the Jedi Order? at the time the Jedi were in control. why would they need restoration?
a restored JO controlling the galaxy is not balance anyway.
technically Luke tipped the scale he didn't balance anything.

Message Edited by Qi_Ali on 11-01-2005 07:24 AM





Jedi do not control, there's your flawed thinking, Sith control. As someone said before the Sith use the forcein Unnatural ways that bring corruption. Jedi are about harmony and peace, and the Old Jedi order use the force only when they need to, and do not bend it to purposes it wasn't intended like the Sith do. The Jedi try to keep as much to letting the force guide them as possible whereas the Sith use the force to guide their ambitions. Two very different philosophies and it is the presence of Sith that tosses the scale out of balance.
Lastrights007
Tue Nov 01, 2005 6:58 am
#34

They were looking for balance between the Jedi Order and the Galactic Senate Qi_Ali. At the time the senate was the opposing force to the Jedi Order which is exactly why Palpatine wanted control of it.



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Russ_Briggs
Tue Nov 01, 2005 7:26 am
#35






Calel_Haven wrote:

But But But But But. . . . . . . . . . . .


The sith rise again, Palpatine rises again as the Sith lord, Luke accepts him as master and becomes his father successor Liea then saves luke and her children go on to form the new Jedi order. At least I think they do, not got that far in the trology.


Just goes to show, even GL has no clue about the SW universe. What hope do we have






Umm it is his universe if he says Anakin brings balance to the force then he does, no debat.




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TigerJedi01
Tue Nov 01, 2005 10:13 am
#36


Episode III DVD 2nd disc, Documentery, "The Chosen One"



"Anakin is the Chosen One" - George Lucas.



go buy it, watch it, and you will hear him say it with your own ears. end of discussion, NEXT!





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Calel_Haven
Tue Nov 01, 2005 10:24 am
#37






TigerJedi01 wrote:


Episode III DVD 2nd disc, Documentery, "The Chosen One"



"Anakin is the Chosen One" - George Lucas.



go buy it, watch it, and you will hear him say it with your own ears. end of discussion, NEXT!






Yep, end of discussion. Personally I think GL is a noob



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Ka-oan
Tue Nov 01, 2005 10:40 am
#38

Wasn't part of the prophecy "One conceived by the force"?



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Drazharr
Tue Nov 01, 2005 11:20 am
#39






Calel_Haven wrote:

But But But But But. . . . . . . . . . . .


The sith rise again, Palpatine rises again as the Sith lord, Luke accepts him as master and becomes his father successor Liea then saves luke and her children go on to form the new Jedi order. At least I think they do, not got that far in the trology.


Just goes to show, even GL has no clue about the SW universe. What hope do we have







Compared to the billions of folks that have seen at least one Star Wars movie, the mere thousands that have read the books you speak of are inconsequential.


George Lucas says Anakin was the Chosen One. He says it plainly. There can be no doubt.


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