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Thread: The deal with class 90 (answered here)

reenforcer
Mon Nov 07, 2005 9:38 am
#27
Yes to everyone that thought grinding days were done well you could be right if you dont want to be 90 like the other players




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Calel_Haven
Mon Nov 07, 2005 9:38 am
#28
Um, excuse me, I finished my grind. Took me a year!



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Takashi_Asukawa
Mon Nov 07, 2005 9:43 am
#29
JediMasterKai wrote:

Takashi_Asukawa wrote:

SinWalker1 wrote:
Yea, but guys come on! We have to use a 3rd gen saber! What a friggin joke! Dam.n it I played hard to get that 4th gen saber and now it's being taken away. I have to grind 2+ mil exp just to use the weapon I have now! I have to grind more just to use the powers that I have now! That's pretty crazy.




You know, I made six new sabers yesterday: three 3rd gen and three 4th gen to see how they convert into the NGE when it goes live. You know what? The stats between a third gen and a fourth gen are the same. The only difference is that a 4th gen can hold five pearls/crystals. Big deal.

You're not a very good saber crafter then.




MLS + 20 pt. LS crafting suit + research center city + all appropriate crafting foods + capped tools + best server resources = base 3rd and 4th gen sabers with the same stats.

The only difference in a 3rd gen and a 4th gen base saber are the FC/SAC and the number of pearls/crystals it can hold. End of story.

You can't screw that up.

Message Edited by Takashi_Asukawa on 11-07-2005 10:44 AM





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RKO
Mon Nov 07, 2005 9:44 am
#30




WookieOgre wrote:




Artimities wrote:

well... since grinding is pretty much quest based now... then one can assume it is content.


Dont look at it as if I have to grind 10 levels. You never know what the quest will hold for level 80-90. It could be fun... the obi-wan quest was fun, and who is to say that one of the quest might be... going to the enclaves to duel a jedi in front of a audience. All i am saying is that the quest can be, and prolly will be very cool. If they are fun... then its not really grinding.. like getting in a spin group, and clicking spin over and over again.


Besides.. if we all converted full temp.. what would we do? I mean really? what would you do when you have nothing left to do? NOTHING...


it gives us something to do.. while they add more content.......






I can agree with that, if all I have to do is fun quests. If I'm back to kill1000 poisonedpickets to complete Level 86.........I'm going to give the devs the finger.




Ok, I will ask what have you been doing since u completed your template now? Not killing pickets I guess? SO, can't you keep doing that in NGE?


What if there's a future expansion that increases the level cap to 100 or 120? Will there be howls of grief then? Don't "grind" then, stay as you are.


What if your 4th gen LS is converted to a 3rd gen LS with no penalty, and when you get a 4th gen LS its actually better! We don't know, and thats the exiting part.


If thats not enough and its still not for you, leave the game & gimme all ure stuff.




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don't u think we have done enough grinding, if we r the only ones that can eveer reach lvl 90 then maybe but i am pretty sure this is not the case so we have more then earned it(non-jedi to padawan to full template double mastery and some have higher with knights) there should be no way we should be grinding.


how much further will we allow them to disrespected us




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Artimities
Mon Nov 07, 2005 9:45 am
#31

i do feel the anger you guys have.. but if they convert everybody to 90, and then all of a sudden... we get there.. the posts will start rolling in...


WHERE IS THE CONTENT?


so we have to be thankful that we have stuff to do.


We dont know what kinda loot will drop.. or anything like that....


I have heard of several new themeparks... so it boils down to good times.......





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stonecoldtool
Mon Nov 07, 2005 9:46 am
#32
I agree, go support my post I made to baciacca and tiggs



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WookieOgre
Mon Nov 07, 2005 9:49 am
#33




Artimities wrote:

i do feel the anger you guys have.. but if they convert everybody to 90, and then all of a sudden... we get there.. the posts will start rolling in...


WHERE IS THE CONTENT?


so we have to be thankful that we have stuff to do.


We dont know what kinda loot will drop.. or anything like that....


I have heard of several new themeparks... so it boils down to good times.......







As I said, if they just allow us to do the quests if our toon hasn't done it that would fix that "content" problem you are talking about. It's similar to the village quests, Jedi that had the skills filled automatically by conversion were afraid they couldn't get the quests/rewards. Devs made it so they could still do the quests and get the rewards EVEN though they had the skills already unlocked/grinded.


Why couldn't this be done the same way? IMO they have to do this anyways because I'm assumign we are going to be missing a ton of loot items from not doing the previoius quests to get to level 80.


stonecoldtool
Mon Nov 07, 2005 9:51 am
#34
I think artimities is a mole spy for SOE LMAO. How is it that EVERYONE is against this extra grinded excep for him? SOmething is out of place with that. Dude you need to look at it from an elder full template jedi's point of view. Ok, there are rewards "MAYBE" for grinding cl80-90. Uh, if we already completed what we needed to in old system, why not just give us those as more "elder" rewards and give us or cl 90. I look at it like this, with fs gone and no more 24 skill points to it its not like we are going cl 80 to cl 90, its like instead of having only 216 skill points and really NOT being cl 80. cl 80 in new system will NOT be like cl 80 in old sytem, more like cl 70. I hope Im not being too confusing, Im trying to concentrate while 1 baby is crying and another is banging on a musical instrument lmao



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Uninformed
Mon Nov 07, 2005 9:56 am
#35




Artimities wrote:

well... since grinding is pretty much quest based now... then one can assume it is content.


Dont look at it as if I have to grind 10 levels. You never know what the quest will hold for level 80-90. It could be fun... the obi-wan quest was fun, and who is to say that one of the quest might be... going to the enclaves to duel a jedi in front of a audience. All i am saying is that the quest can be, and prolly will be very cool. If they are fun... then its not really grinding.. like getting in a spin group, and clicking spin over and over again.


Besides.. if we all converted full temp.. what would we do? I mean really? what would you do when you have nothing left to do? NOTHING...


it gives us something to do.. while they add more content.......







Art, with all due respect, you cannot spin this positively when they are TAKING AWAY the right of every vet to wield a 4th Gen Saber on DAY ONE.


I love all the players spinning this positively.


Let me add to the spin.


How about: "Don't look at the loss of the professions you spent so much time and effort on as a negative, look at it as a way to allow CONSOLE PLAYERS to play"


Or: "Don't look at the Jedi changes as bad, mouse clicking is UBER COOL"


Or: So what if they lied and betrayed the base? Lying and betrayal happens in real life so get used to it.


Don't sell this crap as anything more than the truth: It is SOE's way of making Vets grind more and it penalizes those who are Vets because they can't use equipment in two weeks they spent all of this time and effort to obtain.








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Xato
Mon Nov 07, 2005 9:57 am
#36

If cl80 converts to cl80, what about stored xp?


Do those who have +4m immediately achieve cl90?
Do those who have -10m have to grind it all back before they can get cl81?


Just a thought...I got +4m so I'm happy either way





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Vincentarasin
Mon Nov 07, 2005 9:58 am
#37
Some people get a rise out of killing thousands of pikets and bols and quenkers (remember those days /cry)


Unfortiunatly, SoE has listened to that select 1-2% Of the population in all of their updates, to appease the minoritys (of player style), and thus ruined the game patch, after patch, after patch.


Il be point blank, the ONLY reason im staying a day beyond this NGE, is JTL. ONLY


SoE, Lucas arts, whatever, has destroyed anything they have touched.


Look at other Lucas-Arts ran Online games, like the KOTRP, Jedi academy 1&2, All awsome at release, in multiplayer, nerfed in two patches, every, single, time.


You know, i'v never seen someone 'FIX' a Hitbox by removing it, but alas, in BOTH Jedi academys, thats what happened.


God, the skillz.



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steiner_17
Mon Nov 07, 2005 9:58 am
#38
they resetting all -xp i heard







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Vincentarasin
Mon Nov 07, 2005 9:59 am
#39




Xato wrote:

If cl80 converts to cl80, what about stored xp?


Do those who have +4m immediately achieve cl90?
Do those who have -10m have to grind it all back before they can get cl81?


Just a thought...I got +4m so I'm happy either way







That would definatly suck having -10 mill, and I know several people who are close to that, because they were *DONE* with their template.



That being said, since all PvP is removed (forced pvp), in the new system, Maybe they will revoke the penalties from pvp deaths?(xp loss)?





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