Jedi Archive

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KelnMacil wrote:

Ok guys..here's a little secret to fighting as a Powers wielder. Since everyone seems so bent on defender. If you even consider making yourself tough to kill as a powers jedi, you are already dead. Wielding powers means basically throwing raw force bar at someone. You have no real staying time like other templates. The idea is to kill quickly, on your own terms, and make yourself unavailable for being hit as much as possible. Powers will help you with the first, Enhancer with the second and third. Trust me...I used to be powers/defender right after CU....I'd dropped MLS and all the rest to try out a powers/defender type template. It didn't work. I could stay in a fight for a long time, but I was so limited in my attack ability due to force costs that I had a tough time winning. When I finally wizened up and dropped defender, and picked up Enhancer...things changed for the better. I learned to use the bag o' tricks that Enhancer gives me to CONTROL a fight, not just win with brute strength and a thick skin...win with cunning.

Isn't that more ninja-like?

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i agree with this in principle ... though i took a different path:

i am MPowers, MLS, Healer 3xxx, Enh xxx2

i am able to do massive DPS, with AB, Intimidate, Choke, Weaken, Adv Saber Throw, Power Hit, Dervish ... but as others have noted ... this is a Glass Cannon. You do NOT want to stick around if you don't get your point across quickly. These massive DPS templates are alot of fun PvE and JvBH ... but against another Jedi, you could be in for some trouble. Breach does not work well enough to rely on, so don't consider it.

So if your looking to fight other Jedi, you should probably consider KelnMacil's template idea ... if your looking to still wield a heavy saber ... go with mine ... just don't think you'll be doing much Jedi v Jedi.

good luck man, it's certainly a solid template imo... AND I have alot of fun with it, there are so many abilities that you can't even fit them on one hotbar lol... don't forget your RANCOR AID!

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GlanocRunningstrider wrote:
Has anyone tried using Healer xx4x with powers? Sap seems like it would be ideal to stack with Choke.

Comments?

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That line would seem to work well with a dbl master template, like M Powers M Enhancer 4040 Healer. Someone earlier in this thread mentioned it. That you get the control from Enhancer and dmg from Powers. Then you add the good heals and sap. Seems pretty solid. Plus M Enhancer grants you stasis (great for crowd control & as an escape) and the self rez ability seems like it would be good for pve (especially paired with a rez arm).

Thats just my two cents. Im halfway through my grind and I cant decide between MP/ME/4040H and MP/3402E/4000H/ 0404 or 4040 LS.

Either way I still got a respec so I could always change if I didnt like one. I mostly do pve content anyhow, but need a lil pvp ability for the BH'ers.

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GlanocRunningstrider wrote:
Has anyone tried using Healer xx4x with powers? Sap seems like it would be ideal to stack with Choke.

Comments?

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That line would seem to work well with a dbl master template, like M Powers M Enhancer 4040 Healer. Someone earlier in this thread mentioned it. That you get the control from Enhancer and dmg from Powers. Then you add the good heals and sap. Seems pretty solid. Plus M Enhancer grants you stasis (great for crowd control & as an escape) and the self rez ability seems like it would be good for pve (especially paired with a rez arm).

Thats just my two cents. Im halfway through my grind and I cant decide between MP/ME/4040H and MP/3402E/4000H/ 0404 or 4040 LS.

Either way I still got a respec so I could always change if I didnt like one. I mostly do pve content anyhow, but need a lil pvp ability for the BH'ers.

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/agree that's also another solid template... i just prefer having LS abilities

Granted the MPowers/MEnhancer/Healer 4040 is solid as snot there is ONE drawback. You only have one line for damage, powers, and as they stand with the zip bars isn't fast enough. With a mix of LS like mentioned you have the ability to deal damage from 2 lines on 2 different timers so you can essentially constantly strike assuming you have the action and FP to do so. You still have some control w/ enhancer as well as cloak from powers. It's really personal choice I would think. One offers alot of dmg over a short span w/ moderate control. The other is the inverse moderate dmg. w/ ultimate control. Playstyle will rule your decision.

Good points for me to condsider. Originally I was swaying away from sabers since I can't seem to tune anything over 24 dmg But I might give the 2nd dabbler temp a try. Saber block sounds nice too.

improved saber throw is a great compliment to powers ranged attacks

alternate lightning and saber throw with a occasional choke and you have some serious DPS

sabers and powers are on seperate timers so you can alternate each getting good overall dps

Message Edited by Ranako on 10-28-2005 05:06 PM

Message Edited by DiKan on 10-28-2005 05:13 PM

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DiKan wrote:

thought i might ask again. if you weren't doing sabers, though...4040 or 0440 def ?

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i know this response sucks, but it really depends on what you will be fighting most often. its a tough call. if you think you're going to be fighting lots of melee pvp'rs or non-ranged mobs in pve, then 4040 def. but if you're fighting mostly ranged opponents, i'd say 0440 def. and if you really want to complicate the decision making process then consider 0044 def too

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Ranako wrote:

improved saber throw is a great compliment to powers ranged attacks

alternate lightning and saber throw with a occasional choke and you have some serious DPS

sabers and powers are on seperate timers so you can alternate each getting good overall dps

Message Edited by Ranako on 10-28-2005 05:06 PM

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with fs speed 2 - root, breach, choke, alternate with saber throw and lighting.

make sure you take some d- pryo before breaching

the other thing to consider with the MP/ME/4040healer template is that you have a lot of AoE attacks. This can be a good thing or a bad thing depending on the situation.

soloing pve = bad thing
spin groups or group pvp = good thing

link to MP/ME/4004Healer guide

that guide could be kinda dated now.. so take it with a grain of salt

Message Edited by Epak on 10-28-2005 02:26 PM

Same temp as above but with enh 2000. Can own any bounty hunter out there plain and simple. Against melee fighters and jedi is where we fall. But I don't see this temp changing any time soon.

Message Edited by DiKan on 10-28-2005 03:51 PM