Jedi Archive
Thread: Master Defenders please advise
Fugitron wrote:
Homper wrote:
I am MLS, MDef, 3000 Healer, and 2000 Enhancer.
I am completely happy with this template. In PvP, It rocks, In PVE, it also rocks.
you have to know how to play the template.
Channel, while useful... is overrated. A double master temp as a very high force regen rate.
I would disagree. I am MLS/MDEF 3xxx Heal xxx2 Enh. I do fine in PvP (please note Pre-CU pearls in saber at 676 Mdps). I do VERY well in PvP. I will say this. Against certain BH temps a fight can last a little while, with that being the case without channel you would be subject to using a holo or running out of force. Also, in terms of PvE having the ability to channel is a VERY useful feature. If all you want to do is PvP go 2xxx but if you still wanna PvE I suggest xxx2.
Just as Fugitron says (I got the same temp) channel is often the key against MBH/MCM. They dont do any dmg but their mind regens faster than our force. Sowhen you are hittingthe bh for 15 min (if you dont have a pre-cu sabre) channel is nice to have.
BladeWaker wrote:
Mls/mdefender/4040 = certain death in pvp, almsot like pre cu lol. All target the mdefender, let him AI, then get off him, kill everyone else then just /drain on him until he drops lol, you can't run anywhere.
I was MLS/MDF/HL4x4x : I could take on 3 -5 ranged with ease -no mcm. With mcm -snare- I would move the fight to inside cities to cut distance. It is great templet but BOARING AS HELL!!!! Also, I felt the ForceSpeed2 jedi had an advantage over me. So, I regrinded and I am:
MLS/MDF/En3xxx/HL2xxx. You still need STIMS and Ruby. During PvP you need to play smart force managment. During the small breaks, get friends to top you up always.
Only prob, is that I'm tanking away and my group runs lol
Drazharr wrote:
BladeWaker wrote:
Mls/mdefender/4040 = certain death in pvp, almsot like pre cu lol. All target the mdefender, let him AI, then get off him, kill everyone else then just /drain on him until he drops lol, you can't run anywhere.
And while everyone is targetingyour MDefs, whoare gonna take longer to kill, other attackers can pick off your healers, enhancers, etc., one-by-one.
MLS/MDef/4040 Healer is not certain death, anymore than MP/ME/4040 Healer is certain death. It's not about templates, it's about tactics.
I use to be a MLS/MDEF/3000Heal/2000Enh and it is a great template. You are able to tank anything in game and in pvp you have fr1 just incase of an emergency and need that little speed to get out. You also get the 10 pts from force speed which helps a bit against bh and infusion is all you need in this template against bh's.
In pvp it helps because incase you do find yourself getting ganked you can activate AI and wait till helps arrives and ifit doesnt....it is always cool to see your guy take on 5 jedi and they cant drop you 
. For those of you saying that force is not a problem, then you probably have a pre-cu lightsaber. My saber has a 30fc and force is a problem. Without channel you depend on others for force when you are grinding, if no one is able to supply you with force it takes a good amount of time to get your force back to full. *note it takes around 14minutes to go from 0% to 100% with this template.When spinning lairs I dont like to start unless I have full force because you never know when a bh may attack you. This template is a bh stomper but a jedi with no force might as well lay dead.In PvE it sucks when you are with non jedi. I was always holding my friends back because yeah I may be the tank and can take the most damage but after going non stop for a couple of minutes I'm out of force and now I'm of no use. If you are thinking why not just stop and chill to get force back, yeah you can do that but in the end its the same thing and if you are in a dungeon there is no way you can chill in one spot over and over until you get force back.
If you do always PvE with jedi then heck ask them for force...its the least then can provide for you since you are taking the heat. Ive changed my template now and I still consume the same amount of force but with channel I maintain my force usually above 80% and with my health still being at over 3k. If you are like me and have a crappy saber then the template can be a force consumer. If you have one of those 10fc sabers then I'm sure things are different and force may not be a problem.
freak88 wrote:
go msaber mdef enh 0002 heal3000, a jedi without enh 0002 is worthless.
No, but harder to play.
iv tryed out some diffrent things and think 2xxxheal 3xxxenc is the way to go
just my /2cents 
BladeWaker wrote:
Xato wrote:
BladeWaker wrote:
3000 healer is useless
dammit really? - have to change my template now
3000 healer is great
for being afk in a cantina running a infusion macro maybe?
but you get hit for 800-1400 points per second in PvP, and cano nly heal 1000 for 6 seconds? beside spamming ruby bliel and stims which you cannot do forever...it doesn't even make since , 1000 points healed in 6 seconds well you take an average 6,000 points of damage in that 6 seconds, not including steak,foods,drinks and stims ofcourse. But whatever...
lol
this is funny
4800-8400 damage in 6 secs lol
well if this was the case everyone with healing in their temp (docs-cm-medics-jedi) just wasted lots of points on a rubbish skill
lets see:
4000 healer = 1500 per 6 secs, nope that cant keep up with even the lowest damage of 4800
3000 healer = 1000 per 6 secs, well at leastthey saved 2 sp
wont even put a infusion in there because thats only good for afk in a cantina
im guessing your a master enhancer?