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Thread: Complete Dabbler Template Totally Ridiculous or Viable?

iacou
Thu Sep 08, 2005 8:16 pm
#14






sms909 wrote:

Hey guys,


So I've been having such a tough time picking a final template. I was just thinking today - could a total dabbler template be viable - I'm sure it would probably be fun to play - but could it really work. I'm mostly interested in being a decent PvE Jedi and not as concerned with PvP. So here goes my idea:


LS: 2 4 2 2

Defender: 0 0 4 4

Healer: 2 0 0 0 0

Enhancer: 2 0 0 4

Powers: 0 4 0 2


So this leaves you with 4825 Force Power and 42 as a Regen rate. Obviously a limitation is force power and the regen rate - and this template will probably not be so good in PvP.


Anyone tried a template like this? Could it work for PvE? Thanks for any tips/advice.





I don't understand some of the people in here. No need to flame a guy because he likes and wants to use as many skills as possible.

SMS- by having half columns in the offensive boxes in your template you are truly gimping yourself as the base attacks at the first and second boxes are rarely worth the skill points. Obviously you want Cloak and some powers. My advice is drop from the Meditate box in enhancer as it is only marginally better than /channel. Apply those points elsewhere to improve your offensive or defensive capabilities. As for healing, at least get 3xxx as you will have 1000 pt heals and improved infusion. The Defender boxes you have chosen limit your melee defense in PvE and the state defenses in the xxx4 column are of little use currently.


My advice for you would look more like 4040 in Defender for good melee defense and improved aura. 0402 or 0404 saber for armor break, improved head hit, and power attack as well as saberthrow. 3xxx or 4xxx healing for good all around heals. 2002 enhancer for FR1 and Channel Force. Then you should have some good pts left to spend in Powers.











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Colbius
Thu Sep 08, 2005 8:17 pm
#15


Your not going to be viable in PvP and your only good for support in PvE. Get a few more tier 4 boxes to help give your force a boost. But dont listen to what everyone else says. It all comes down to how you like this temp. If you enjoy it go for it dont let anyone tell you any differently. Just dont go in expecting to be all powerful.



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scoodoobydoo
Thu Sep 08, 2005 8:18 pm
#16

its not ridiculous is you use your robe and you have channel in that build


but his build with what 4 lvl 2 trees ? that wont work man


you do know lvl two trees use 14 sp for way less force then haveing the top two boxes for 6 sp




anyways if you go full dabbler you will be way downon the force


so make sure you max it out by going full dabbler 9 dif trees



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scoodoobydoo
Thu Sep 08, 2005 8:21 pm
#17

its just that if you go with alot of tier twos you will have low force fast



" jedi should be hard because being a jedi is your reward shouldnt be able to mess around and have fun"
"well this is a game for fun messing around is fun and if your that much of a
pr!ck irl you need to get laid"

"I am Scissors, Paper is fine, but Rock needs to be balanced"

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Omani
Thu Sep 08, 2005 8:23 pm
#18






sms909 wrote:


LS: 2 4 2 2

Defender: 0 0 4 4

Healer: 2 0 0 0 0

Enhancer: 2 0 0 4

Powers: 0 4 0 2








eh... =/

LS: all your attacks would be crap, hitting for 200dmg depending on ur saber, except for ur 2h skills,

DEF: 0040 is good, if u got the def to back it up, which would be 4xxx and x4xx, plus Valor is pointless if u dont have the saber block to back that up.. which is xxx2 LS. Aura is good but it wont save you.

Healer: 2xxx its ok, 4xxx would be better, rejuv is a nice bonus, plus healing 1500 is always good

Enh: 3xxx is nice, for the speed.. other than that, no comment.

Powers: i like this actually, cloak (which u will need with this temp) /snicker and a range kd.. not bad



ok if i did my math right, that puts u at 224 skill points out of 226, soooooo ill give u my idea for a similar, yet slightly better (imho) temp and let u think about it.


LS:0444 (good hitting attacks, can use 2h, or dbl blade, more Exp points, and +20 saber block)

Dfndr: 0044

Healer: 4000

Enhcr: 3002 (got rid of meditate, its slow, and almost no worth it.. channel is faster even when u have to regen backur health when ur sitting)

Powers: 0402


slightly altered, but with the same idea as ur temp in mind, and it will put u at 226 points..

ok u can praise me or flame me now =) i quit talking






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scoodoobydoo
Thu Sep 08, 2005 8:26 pm
#19



0404 ls 4040 healer 4004 enhancer 0400 powers 4040 defender

( had this build i liked it but i think im going to change my temp again

maybe menh mls 4040 healer i would regret loseing defenses and cloak tho, decisions decisions)


: D


with full dabbler you get 9 trees ohk ?


master boxes give 500 force


with double mastery you can get 10 trees


4444 lightsaberM 4444 enhancerM 4040 healer





0404 ls 4040 healer 4004 enhancer 0400 powers 4040 defender


i was this i changed to the traditional master lightsaber tho



well not traditional but its my new cu build


MLightsaber3004 enhancer 4000 healer 0400 powers 0040 defender



" jedi should be hard because being a jedi is your reward shouldnt be able to mess around and have fun"
"well this is a game for fun messing around is fun and if your that much of a
pr!ck irl you need to get laid"

"I am Scissors, Paper is fine, but Rock needs to be balanced"

Be careful... remember when Tiggs and Thunderheart acknowledged the pearl drop problem with premium / flawless? Look what came out of that one. *Can't fix it.. so you screw you guys
scoodoobydoo
Thu Sep 08, 2005 8:27 pm
#20

anyways goodluck Sms 909



" jedi should be hard because being a jedi is your reward shouldnt be able to mess around and have fun"
"well this is a game for fun messing around is fun and if your that much of a
pr!ck irl you need to get laid"

"I am Scissors, Paper is fine, but Rock needs to be balanced"

Be careful... remember when Tiggs and Thunderheart acknowledged the pearl drop problem with premium / flawless? Look what came out of that one. *Can't fix it.. so you screw you guys
acmtalk
Thu Sep 08, 2005 8:29 pm
#21

Dude, DO what u think its fun Learn your templat+food+strategy and you will do fine... When I first started my templat(MP, LS0/4/0/0/, Healer 4/0/0/0, enhancer 4/4/0/4 and Novice def, People said I was crazy and that only double master would do well etc... Now I can beat most of the double masters( even some master defenders out there ) learn your templat and have fun with it...



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scoodoobydoo
Thu Sep 08, 2005 8:32 pm
#22

lol is this the apple pie forum lol im bakeing a apple pie rofl : D



" jedi should be hard because being a jedi is your reward shouldnt be able to mess around and have fun"
"well this is a game for fun messing around is fun and if your that much of a
pr!ck irl you need to get laid"

"I am Scissors, Paper is fine, but Rock needs to be balanced"

Be careful... remember when Tiggs and Thunderheart acknowledged the pearl drop problem with premium / flawless? Look what came out of that one. *Can't fix it.. so you screw you guys
petergriffon
Thu Sep 08, 2005 8:56 pm
#23


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TraceAntilles
Thu Sep 08, 2005 9:40 pm
#24

Most of the flamers in this thread are cookie cutter templates and can't think outside of the box to save their lives.


I know of a complete dabbler Jedi that has yet to lose to a BH since his template was complete and has either killed every BH or the fight came down to a draw.


My only advice to you is think out of the box. Any BH worth their salt knows the weaknesses of EVERY master template and double master combination. I mean come on, first rule of agood fightis to know your enemy.


So keep your template spontaneous and you will win everytime. Just get rid of all those 2's and get more 4's.





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eddytheone
Thu Sep 08, 2005 9:42 pm
#25

Shoot me now




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Prefect42
Thu Sep 08, 2005 11:43 pm
#26

The question is what can you do with that template... it has all the key skills ya need and despite what idiots say your damage output should be average... I manage to outdamage MLS Jedi and I have only had 0244 for ages...


I'd suggest dropping xxx4 Enhancer to xxx2 and using those skillpoints somewhere else (maybe in 3xxx or 4xxx healer)...and maybe even dropping xxx4 Defender for Improved Armor... you'd get along fine....



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