Jedi Archive

a little OT, but congrats to Daes on the new title. Look forward to seein ya in the sanbox.

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DaesDream wrote:

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EvilSockPuppet wrote:

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Mystic_Squirrel wrote:

I see FA as being far superior to synthsteak. Yes, synthsteak is a 45% damage reduction for no force cost, but if I use thakatillo in a fight (which I do every time) I only have space for 2 synthsteaks. Compare that to a person with FA, who can not only use a holocron or channel to get force back, but if they get into trouble they can drop FA and use synth.

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True but if you master defender instead of getting enhancer, then you can get 75% damage reduction, 105 (I think) melee def,and good state def, without fear of running outta force. Plus synthsteak last an hour, so if you know you are going into battle, then you could use 2 synthsteak half an hour before hand and get to the battle with no filling and 2 sythsteak already on.

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Until you see a jedi, and the jedi has force armor that works against your lightsaber, and your jedi toughness doesn't help you at all

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speaking on this topic, why the hell do enhancers have the only resistance against lightsaber. Would it be possible for someone to pull their head out of their butt long enough to fix jedi toughness so that a defender is actually stronger in defense than an enhancer?

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rodorion wrote:

speaking on this topic, why the hell do enhancers have the only resistance against lightsaber. Would it be possible for someone to pull their head out of their butt long enough to fix jedi toughness so that a defender is actually stronger in defense than an enhancer?

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Sadly, this was one of the most contested (and imho stupid) changes made to the jedi trees before publish 9 went live. Force Armor used to be in the Defender skill tree. It got ripped out of there and stuck in Enhancer a couple of weeks before the jedi rebalance went live, and suddenly M Saber, M Enhancer, 4004 healer became FOTM.

Jedi toughness isn't broken - it works fine against every damage type except sabers, which is how it should work. Sadly, that change was made at the same time as the Force Armor was moved to Enhancer.

Either of the 2 changes would have been a suitable fix, but instead, SOE took away with one hand, and um.. took away with the other too.

Where it stands now, they should either move Force Armor back to Defender, or make Jedi Toughness work against sabers.

Geno.

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Xlot wrote:

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rodorion wrote:

speaking on this topic, why the hell do enhancers have the only resistance against lightsaber. Would it be possible for someone to pull their head out of their butt long enough to fix jedi toughness so that a defender is actually stronger in defense than an enhancer?

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Sadly, this was one of the most contested (and imho stupid) changes made to the jedi trees before publish 9 went live. Force Armor used to be in the Defender skill tree. It got ripped out of there and stuck in Enhancer a couple of weeks before the jedi rebalance went live, and suddenly M Saber, M Enhancer, 4004 healer became FOTM.

Jedi toughness isn't broken - it works fine against every damage type except sabers, which is how it should work. Sadly, that change was made at the same time as the Force Armor was moved to Enhancer.

Either of the 2 changes would have been a suitable fix, but instead, SOE took away with one hand, and um.. took away with the other too.

Where it stands now, they should either move Force Armor back to Defender, or make Jedi Toughness work against sabers.

Geno.

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ya i know its not broken, but when they removed both at the same time they made enhancer the only really viable template in jedi vs jedi. But i do more pvp and pve than jvj and didnt want to be a fotm whore. Just wish they would put toughness back to the way it was. I mean it IS jedi toughness, not -everything except jedi- toughness.

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BeWary wrote:

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ShineKnuckle wrote:

Wow...

So, if a hit WOULD have impacted you for 400 damage (probably a fair assumption for most melee situations, after toughness is factored in), you'll be blowing 120 force to block a little less than half of it with FA2?

That's somewhat depressing. Those costs are way too high. :/

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....evey second. I'm not a big FA fan. Synthstake does the same job, only better and cheaper.

4x synthstake ( all you can use till yer full)= 132 hits @ %40 damage reduction.

using FA2 you run out of force bar after around 70 hits? ( rough avg of 100 force used/hit) So you can last half as long, but block %7 more damage? At the cost of how many skill points?

It gets even more brutal if you start factoring in the force used to heal yerself from the damage that is getting thru.

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5 Synthsteaks.. Remember you have a 1hr timer, so if you take one 15-20 min before going out ( say when buffing ) you have 1 extra synthsteak..

Does SynthSteak and FA stack?

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Endeva wrote:
Does SynthSteak and FA stack?

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Yes they do.

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JayBurns wrote:

True synthasteak might be fine alone, but what if you stacked it with FA, and force intimidate? Damage to both force and HAM will be so reduced it would be like running around in full compo again. Of course, none of the popular dual mastery templates can do all three, but that's why I'm making a dabbler template.

Regards,

J

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Very true... Or you can eat exo protein wafers, for 25% dmg reduction, for 25 hits, and only 5 filling! yes that's right, 5! I can eat 9 of these for the price of one synth, and block 225 attacks for 25% instead of just 45 attacks for 45%.