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Thread: Master Powers without any LS?

SilentSoul201
Mon Sep 26, 2005 11:19 pm
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Attibow wrote:




_Saevio_ wrote:

i'm thinking of going Mpower, x4x4 LS, 4xxx Healer, 34x2 Enhancer... seems pretty well rounded and seems like it will meet my pvp, pve, and RP needs




This is a very nice template!





I'm starting to lean pretty heavilytowards this template as well. Attibow, do you have this template? I.E. when you say it is very nice is that from experience? Details!






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DeeckTator
Mon Sep 26, 2005 11:31 pm
#15


Im MP,LS 0400, Heal 4000, enhancer 4004 and defender 0040


Need Aura, I take lots of damage without Aura on, and Powers drain so much force that Im not sure force armor is a good choice for Mpow.


Having AB, headhit and power attack is nice, but i have no deflection with this temp... Now Im considering dropping LS all togther for Force armor ormaybe LS 0004 for deflection and Saber throw.Any tips apreciated, never had force armor..




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whocares2004
Mon Sep 26, 2005 11:52 pm
#16

Hi


Been going with MP, ME and heal 4x4x - and i love it. I have accepted the fact that i can not keep the damage of a LS template .. but i dont care ad i love the fact that this template has some tricks up the sleeve the ordinary BH do not expect.


I keep my saber equiped for show and becuz i wanna give an attacker no reason to expect me beeing a non-ls template.


Anyways .. with root,forcerun, 1.5K heals, force speed,snare, stasis, kd, shock, zp and electricity shooting form ur palms ... this template is pretty cool and in time im sure powers will recieve more love (perhaps with FRS) -.. and with double mastery ur good on force too.


As stated numerous times in these forums .. do ur template and learn to play it/love it ... as it should be .. its a trade off.


In short: Mpowers is pretty FUN and makes me have a good time.


Just to be clear tho: i hold on to my token respec as i might have to accept at a later stage that i cannot level in the FRS once it goes live in 2008.





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magneto2
Mon Sep 26, 2005 11:59 pm
#17

i think some LS with powers is a must, jsut for action and force cost


im Mpowers, LS 0401, and its great....i get head hit, power attack, armor break, and a single Kd


it works great, and BH end up getting pwnt everytime






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Amoteiu
Tue Sep 27, 2005 12:02 pm
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SilentSoul201 wrote:

Hey, i'm still grindin out FS, but i'm planning on going FOTM withMP in place of MLS.My question is, does MP alone do enough damage to nonjedi to knock em out easy without using a lightsaber? Partly i really like the idea of using powers as my main source of damage and partly i just don't want to deal with post-CU sabers.... i understand that with only MP i won't be able to kill Jedi in PvP but with the type of saber i would have at the start, i probably wouldn't be able to kill them anyway.


So... does MP without any LS skills work?





I've seen people use it with success. Good against bh, not as good against jedi unless you are in a support role.




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master_finesse
Fri Sep 30, 2005 3:22 am
#19


Hating life without sabers - Say it again - hating life. If a BH is on you just play dead. Take the XP loss and get off the terminals. The fact is MP is better to go Master pistoleer / E 34xx / Def x.4.4.x / H 4.x.x.3


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Gigalesh
Fri Sep 30, 2005 4:09 am
#20

From own experience, as long as you dont meet any mdef you should be ok.




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Durzel
Fri Sep 30, 2005 5:34 am
#21



SilentSoul201 wrote:
What i'd really like is a word from current MP jedi on how their damage is vs. Non-jedi when alternating only powers attacks. Thx for the help so far guys, it's great.... keep it coming plz!



I'm MPowers/MEnh/Healer 4040 and I fought a buffed (food and doc buffs) MBH/MCM yesterday and even though the DoTs weren't working, he got paralyze on me a couple of times.

He hit me 4 times, dmg was under 250 each shot (I didn't even use Infusion at all) and for the rest of the 2 minute fight he was just constantly healing. I didn't even touch him with my sabre (which is pretty crappy - 570 max dmg with unholy FC/speed).

With Sap on the go he was down to about 1/4 mind in less than a minute.

MPowers is awesome against non-Jedi - but its a very tough fight against Jedi. I normally run out of Force (even with a double mastery) without getting them low enough on health to have a chance of winning. Constantly having to breach Force Feedback, etc is not fun.



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BukuJohnson
Fri Sep 30, 2005 5:59 am
#22

I have been doing powers. I'm 2 boxes away and have a good template of def .

Plan on hating life with powers. It is the worst template in the game. Any non jedi will absolutely own you. You can't heal fast enough if you try any power zip up - and wait on animation attacks. By the time you get 1 attack off you are down 50% health. By the second attack you are dead. A good BH will kill you in the time you get 3 attacks off.
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Those last 2 boxes will change your opinion on Powers vs non Jedi.

Choke is a huge factor.


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Durzel
Fri Sep 30, 2005 6:01 am
#23

Amen to that.

Choke is a double edge sword - it's practically useless against any Jedi with basic Enhancer or Defender, and godly against non-Jedi.



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ImperialWarrior
Fri Sep 30, 2005 6:11 am
#24

Simple fact is powers blow hard against jedi, it doesnt matter how good it works against non jedi. Once the frs is here and you need to kill JEDI to advance your not going to make it to rank 1 with just powers, reason being, dabblers and poor skill placement by devs killed powers. Anyone with 0040 defender should easily beat a powers jedi with no saber. So you can say "i just want to have fun" or w/e but fact remains when frs is here and ANYONE with just powers gets rolled over by every other jedi in the game dont come to the forums and cry. Powers blows and yet our corro does nothing...
BukuJohnson
Fri Sep 30, 2005 6:18 am
#25

Attibow wrote:
i'm thinking of going Mpower, x4x4 LS, 4xxx Healer, 34x2 Enhancer... seems pretty well rounded and seems like it will meet my pvp, pve, and RP needs.
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_Saevio_ wrote:
This is a very nice template!
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SilentSoul201 wrote:
I'm starting to lean pretty heavily towards this template as well. Attibow, do you have this template? I.E. when you say it is very nice is that from experience? Details!
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I tried playing a Mpowers Jedi with no saber, and it worked well until they made our healing slower, and improved non Jedi healing.

I now have the template you are considering and it is loaded with options, but requires thought to play. It is certainly not as easy as playing a pure saberist with high defenses.

PVE: I can take a lvl 90 DWB Wraith 1v1 in just over 1min with 70% force remaining. (you can also die if you are not paying attention, but boy is it fun to watch them tick for 640 choke dmg)

PVP: Non Jedi it has the damage you need to put a hurt on them. AB, KD, Choke, Head Hit, Mind blast, Weaken. Go ranged vs melee opponents with improved saber throw and lightning, and stay melee with head hit and power attack if they are ranged. KD and re-apply choke, mindblast, and weaken as needed

PVP: JvJ Is pretty bad now, and is gonna hurt even more after they remove the ability to chanel while cloaked.


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Durzel
Fri Sep 30, 2005 6:48 am
#26

Would there be a massive difference between LS 0402 and LS 0404? Reason being is I'm not sure if I would be happy giving up Meditate (even though it isn't as good as it should be).

What would I forfeit from only having xxx2 LS instead of xxx4?



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