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GeckoFighter wrote:
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I was a defender and an enhancer, and i see no problem or nerf with this suggestion.

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I do, though - it is unbalancing. Moreover, if your point is "anything enhancing a Jedi needs to be in Enhancer", you might as well scrap all other disciplines besides Enhancer. Saber speed is an enhancement, healing for 1500 instead of 500 or no healing at all is an enhancement, you get the idea.
As far as I can tell this is a typical case of "I am pre-CU cookie-cutter MLS / MEnh / Heal 4xx4 (maybe Heal 4x4x now) and I want it all". If you want more defenses, sacrifice the Enhancer mastery for Enh 3402 and move the other skill points into Defender.

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Postman_Splat wrote:

No we get what the OP is saying, but it makes things too inbalanced, If you take away the skills from defender and give defender the equal amount of bonus in the tress (which i may add SOE will never do) then all the MDF are gunna get a more armour/defence when they use points in enhancer.

So for someone with MLS MDF and say enh 4xx4 with said abilities now being in those 2 branches, they are gunna be uber tanks and people will cry nerf!!!!

and tbh the only thing making defender worth anything atm is valor and aura......

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was thinking about that, not equal defense in a passive skill but almost equal (mabey 300 instead of 500 defense to an innate aura, instead of 45 saber block mabey an extra 25-30)

meanwhile enhancers version of those two skills might be like +250 defense for aura and +20-25 saber block. Still not as good as defender naturally so it wouldnt make defender or enhancer a fotm. might move one of the enhancements in enhancer to master enhancer to save the population from the fotm dabbler templates.

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GeckoFighter wrote:
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I was a defender and an enhancer, and i see no problem or nerf with this suggestion.

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I do, though - it is unbalancing. Moreover, if your point is "anything enhancing a Jedi needs to be in Enhancer", you might as well scrap all other disciplines besides Enhancer. Saber speed is an enhancement, healing for 1500 instead of 500 or no healing at all is an enhancement, you get the idea.
As far as I can tell this is a typical case of "I am pre-CU cookie-cutter MLS / MEnh / Heal 4xx4 (maybe Heal 4x4x now) and I want it all". If you want more defenses, sacrifice the Enhancer mastery for Enh 3402 and move the other skill points into Defender.

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B-boNe wrote:

rynne you aren't good at jedi

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hey squeaky, that an idea of an e-cool insult? good job man, move along

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GeckoFighter wrote:

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Eskie wrote:

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GeckoFighter wrote:
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I was a defender and an enhancer, and i see no problem or nerf with this suggestion.

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I do, though - it is unbalancing. Moreover, if your point is "anything enhancing a Jedi needs to be in Enhancer", you might as well scrap all other disciplines besides Enhancer. Saber speed is an enhancement, healing for 1500 instead of 500 or no healing at all is an enhancement, you get the idea.
As far as I can tell this is a typical case of "I am pre-CU cookie-cutter MLS / MEnh / Heal 4xx4 (maybe Heal 4x4x now) and I want it all". If you want more defenses, sacrifice the Enhancer mastery for Enh 3402 and move the other skill points into Defender.

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saber speed is an enhancer ability

healing is not an enhancement, because its instant

i was a defender and an enhancer, so im not asking to nerf anything actually, again its one of those cases where you actually have to make the effort to read and know what your talking about before you come with the "pre cu jedi" bullcrap

kthx

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I was talking about the "Two-handed saber speed mods", because after all they enhance your saber speed, also. "Healing for 1500" is also an enhancement over "healing for 500".

But to get back on topic: I read that you were a Defender and an Enhancer, and you think Aura and Valor are great moves, but cant fit both into your now Enhancer-heavy template.
The problem is, if you move them to Enhancer, Enhancer will be extremely overpowered (Master Defender innate armor, full Jedi crowd control abilities (minus KD), all Jedi Force management skills, offense enhancers, defense resists, and then on top of that the best moves from Defender. Anybody not taking MEnh instead of Def 4040 / Enh 3402 would be stupid if your suggestions were implemented.

sure. move aura and valor to enhance b/c they enhance your jedi. oh but you have to move cloak from powers to enhance. and infusion, well that obviously belongs in enhancer too. and take that stupid stasis out of enhancer b/c that's just an instant and a debuff, doesn't even enhance your jedi...

the point is, you can't be so literal. the skills are properly placed to go along w/ the idea behind each tree available to jedi, and more importantly to keep the game balanced.

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aeryghal wrote:
sure. move aura and valor to enhance b/c they enhance your jedi. oh but you have to move cloak from powers to enhance. and infusion, well that obviously belongs in enhancer too. and take that stupid stasis out of enhancer b/c that's just an instant and a debuff, doesn't even enhance your jedi...

the point is, you can't be so literal. the skills are properly placed to go along w/ the idea behind each tree available to jedi, and more importantly to keep the game balanced.

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QFE, it wouldnt make sense for enhancer to have debuffs by the op's reasoning.

So we should merge every single jedi tree into enhancer because if i get a +200 force power mod, im getting "enhnaced" right? defender is about defense, force aura is a form of defense, force valor is a form of defense, the "its not a passive ability so it should be in enhnancer tree" is bs, make AI passive and then you can move aura and valor out of the defender

Good points from everyone

What do you want next? cloak in enhancer? please stop making these useless threads