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Thread: Fixing the FRS

Magnitude
Fri Feb 11, 2005 8:27 pm
#14



SonGouki wrote:
Thanks guys.
Please be aware though, posting it in there does not necessarily mean that it will happen, I'm merely making suggestions...





Son, could you also bring it up that jedi as well should be able to reassemble their skill points (or XP grinded) to change their template? I don't want to end up having to grind tons of xp because the revamp will make my template suck.



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Morwen
Fri Feb 11, 2005 8:31 pm
#15

That all looks good, but what it's missing is an alternative for those who have no desire to join the frs. It's pretty clear there's a largepopulation of jedi that will do anything to climb the ranks, legit or not, fair or not, and revamping the system won't change this.
Magnitude
Fri Feb 11, 2005 8:31 pm
#16



Metalsaber wrote:


Magnitude wrote:


SonGouki wrote:
Thanks guys.
Please be aware though, posting it in there does not necessarily mean that it will happen, I'm merely making suggestions...





Son, could you also bring it up that jedi as well should be able to reassemble their skill points (or XP grinded) to change their template? I don't want to end up having to grind tons of xp because the revamp will make my template suck.


well it would be my hope that they fix all broke trees/braches and thus make all templates viable.




And if they do fix it, it would be great to just be able to switch our skill points (like everyone else, I don't see why jedi is an exception)



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"Forget it, that's just how i feel, and i'm sick of this damn talk. You keep telling me that i'm wrong, but for the first time, i'm sure. For once i'm loving every second, and i'm not looking back. Everyone has their own reasons to be happy. This is not an excuse to act defiant, i'm finally choosing my own path, and i'm finally finding peace. And everyone should feel this way, but since they don't, that's why this world is screwed. And i'm sick of always plaing dead to fit in with the rest. Everyone should have their own ideas for the better, but not act defiant, to choose and make your own path, to find your inner peace. Keep telling me that i'm not the same, keep ranting on about how i've changed, this i'll decide for myseelf. I'm the same kid i've always been, outlook on life is all that's changed, still i will be here until the end, my heart will stay, my heart remains."

"I'll try my best to live each day better than the last. To find the strength to fight, to hold on to what's right for me. And you should try your best to make this last as long as your heart allows it, and to make this count (for you). I'm not invincible, but i believe in myself, and i believe in Straight Edge. We all die someday, i'll die standing for what i believe, and i'll stay positive (and i'll keep focused). In all sincerity, this means the world to me, and i'll give everything. Choose the battles that you live and die for, it's time to make a start. Whatever it is that you have to fight for, to anyone with heart, make your stand."

"Listen up everyone, it's time to hear our fate. They've got us on the end of our ropes, they've drove us to the end of our own road. It does not lead anywhere, this road, it can't lead anywhere. A pack of them are coming this way, who are they? A pack of them are on the move. Like the indians, we're strong in our own way, unlike the rest, we have unity, respect and strong minds. Hold down there walls and set in their way, we'll take on each and every day, we'll stand tall, above them all, we're rising up and we won't fall."

I've had enough of your hatred, your mentality sucks, you're way to negative. I thought we were all here for fun, not to compete and beat each other up? Lets take the put downs and leave them behing, and set forth with open minds."

Alone in a crowd, but we're still standing strong
With X's up fists and sing alongs
Times like these are what we live for
These days are more than we'd ever hoped for
We're still here, and we'll never forget the words we said
Time flies by, and the promises made will stay with us
Through our lives
We're not finished yet, that's right
They tried to break the best of us
But still our hearts are true to promises kept
Adalie
Fri Feb 11, 2005 8:33 pm
#17



Now, lets say that someone makes 1000 FRS a day.
This is pretty much what people make if they're having a great PvP day on Lowca. Some people make above it, most people make below it. This is because its really hard to kill jedi right now without a large group...most jedi will just forcerun when they get into trouble, and even if you kill them you'll only make like 200 - 300 frs usually, because of all the people you need to kill them before they can run away. Also, as jedi get higher ranks they wont get more FRS a day..it doesn't scale like that and getting higher ranks actually makes them worse because its bugged right now..sigh...anyways


So, if someone has a great PvP day everyday this is how long it will take them to get ranks. I also put in how much they'll lose a day in maintence. Like, initially they dont lose anything but as soon as they get rank I and are grinding towards rank II or higher they'll lose 100 frs per rank a day. Each first tier rank takes 10k frs to be promoted.

rank 1: 10000 1000x = 10 days
rank 2: 10000 900x = 12 days
rank 3: 10000 800x = 13 days
rank 4: 10000 700x = 15 days


so the first tier will take 50 days total. I just finished rank 4 last night and I've been a knight since thanksgiving and you all know how much I pvp.



rank 5: 20000 600x = 34 days
rank 6: 20000 500x = 40 days
rank 7: 20000 400x = 50 days


The 2nd tier will take 124 days. So we're up to 174 days of playing everyday and having a great pvp day everyday.


rank 8: 50000 300x = 166 days
rank 9: 50000 200x = 250 days


The 3rd tier will take 416 days. So we're up to 590 days from the time we became a knight to get here.


rank 10: 100000 100x = 1000 days


This 4th tier will take 1000 days to finish if you just make 1000 frs a day. So you had better make sure to play daily and have just an awesome pvp day everyday or else you're in trouble. Up to 1590 days now.


rank 11:200000 0 xp = never getting it. So its virtually impossible to get if you make at least 1000 xp a day, which doesn't happen everyday.


So lets just say that you wanted to be a tier 4 council member. If you were to play everyday, including holidays..and have a great PvP day everyday, it would take you 1590 days or 4.35 years to make it to the council. This is without ever having a day off from SWG and never having a bad pvp day. Is that worth it to you?



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tank2730
Fri Feb 11, 2005 8:39 pm
#18


wow great idea's love them all ! , know if SOE would listen and impalement them this game would rock IMO



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darkhawk1138
Fri Feb 11, 2005 8:42 pm
#19







Adalie wrote:



Now, lets say that someone makes 1000 FRS a day.
This is pretty much what people make if they're having a great PvP day on Lowca. Some people make above it, most people make below it. This is because its really hard to kill jedi right now without a large group...most jedi will just forcerun when they get into trouble, and even if you kill them you'll only make like 200 - 300 frs usually, because of all the people you need to kill them before they can run away. Also, as jedi get higher ranks they wont get more FRS a day..it doesn't scale like that and getting higher ranks actually makes them worse because its bugged right now..sigh...anyways


So, if someone has a great PvP day everyday this is how long it will take them to get ranks. I also put in how much they'll lose a day in maintence. Like, initially they dont lose anything but as soon as they get rank I and are grinding towards rank II or higher they'll lose 100 frs per rank a day. Each first tier rank takes 10k frs to be promoted.

rank 1: 10000 1000x = 10 days
rank 2: 10000 900x = 12 days
rank 3: 10000 800x = 13 days
rank 4: 10000 700x = 15 days


so the first tier will take 50 days total. I just finished rank 4 last night and I've been a knight since thanksgiving and you all know how much I pvp.



rank 5: 20000 600x = 34 days
rank 6: 20000 500x = 40 days
rank 7: 20000 400x = 50 days


The 2nd tier will take 124 days. So we're up to 174 days of playing everyday and having a great pvp day everyday.


rank 8: 50000 300x = 166 days
rank 9: 50000 200x = 250 days


The 3rd tier will take 416 days. So we're up to 590 days from the time we became a knight to get here.


rank 10: 100000 100x = 1000 days


This 4th tier will take 1000 days to finish if you just make 1000 frs a day. So you had better make sure to play daily and have just an awesome pvp day everyday or else you're in trouble. Up to 1590 days now.


rank 11:200000 0 xp = never getting it. So its virtually impossible to get if you make at least 1000 xp a day, which doesn't happen everyday.


So lets just say that you wanted to be a tier 4 council member. If you were to play everyday, including holidays..and have a great PvP day everyday, it would take you 1590 days or 4.35 years to make it to the council. This is without ever having a day off from SWG and never having a bad pvp day. Is that worth it to you?





adalie you posted this in the lowca forums to try and justify your fight clubbing please stop using this as your reason for fight clubbing.


good stuff tho Son i like the idea for stuff at the enclave!

Message Edited by darkhawk1138 on 02-11-2005 07:43 PM




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Sinistyr
Fri Feb 11, 2005 8:42 pm
#20

Excellent stuff SonGouki!!!

You have presented what almost all of us would want...now if only they will listen.



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SDraven
Fri Feb 11, 2005 8:45 pm
#21

perfect! 5*



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Ataho
Fri Feb 11, 2005 8:48 pm
#22

This is the best news in a long time....and really add some flavor to the FRS.



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lajduke
Fri Feb 11, 2005 8:55 pm
#23

Dude, these ideas are BRILLIANT. Being that i am just about to enter the FRS, these changes would be totally welcomed by myself and MANY MANY others. Great Great stuff son, cheers to you!




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Bawarr
Fri Feb 11, 2005 9:20 pm
#24

The light-dark tiers are what ive always envisioned the FRS to be, we shouldnt really be involved with the GCW at all. Hiding in the enclaves and infighting between sith and jedi ishow it should be. The alliance didnt send a /tell to obi-wan to come and pwn some imperials when they got attacked now did they





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darkhawk1138
Fri Feb 11, 2005 9:22 pm
#25


well im sure yoda never told mace wendo that he had to pay 2mill credits to say on the council




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Chowley
Fri Feb 11, 2005 9:47 pm
#26






Bawarr wrote:

The light-dark tiers are what ive always envisioned the FRS to be, we shouldnt really be involved with the GCW at all. Hiding in the enclaves and infighting between sith and jedi ishow it should be. The alliance didnt send a /tell to obi-wan to come and pwn some imperials when they got attacked now did they







Ah we still need an option to be involved in the GCW, people moan about jedi being overpowered and being in the GCW at all yet, if a knight walks through theed or coro or wherever someone will attack him, then they moan. But at least if we had the option to be pvp enabled and switch to jedi pvp only it would make a lot of people happy


Although id happily spend most of my time at the enclaves fighting jedi


Great ideas


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