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Thread: Crystal/Pearl tuning.... /bugs ???

Gaffacas
Fri Oct 15, 2004 6:02 am
#14






WookieOgre wrote:






RabidEwok2 wrote:

Under the current system I think it's working as intended. It should be a considerable effort to get the best sabers, especially since we jedi don't have that much else to burn money on.


However after the CB, when elders/krayts are unsoloable, it will be a *lot* worse since peoplemost likely won't be able to solo farm these. Then I hope the tuning algorithms are tightened up a bit.








Actually it is not working as intended. True, the system is making the effort to get the best sabers very difficult (don't mind that) BUT the point of this new tuning system was to make crystals and pearls go down in price. The plan was to have crystals/pearls with no stats and random tuning so the prices drop from 4-5 million per to a more reasonable amount.


It failed. All you have to do is look at the trade forums and find crystals/pearls go for 4-5 million....only difference now is you don't know what you aregetting but you're still paying outrageous prices for it. I would take the old method over this new tuning crap anyday......at least I know my 4 million would go to a useable crystal and not something that comes out to0 FC (that was a preme by the way)


Message Edited by WookieOgre on 10-15-2004 07:50 AM





True the new system didn't get the prices on crystals/pearls down .. and I wound indeed prefere the old system!

ButI would be happy with the new system - if it had no BUGS!

The average succes for a nice tune on a Premium is considered 70-90% (I donno if this is true, but seems fair acording to my own tuning) so if you get alot of premiums - you would get some nice tunes!

BUT with the BUG I tuned 7 prem and none of them had a good tune!

So this new system indeed sux ..

Message Edited by Gaffacas on 10-15-2004 03:05 PM



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Garold_Oretha
Fri Oct 15, 2004 8:12 pm
#15

Hahaha I like this system.


Our guild farms poor/fair/good crystals all day long from janta/mokks and tunes some amazing numbers from em. Yes, it tkaes more crytsals but hell who cares? Its easier to farm a dozen so called crappy crystals than spend 5 million on a crystal that will more often then not turn in a crummy tune.



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Gaffacas
Fri Oct 15, 2004 8:24 pm
#16








Garold_Oretha wrote:

Hahaha I like this system.


Our guild farms poor/fair/good crystals all day long from janta/mokks and tunes some amazing numbers from em. Yes, it tkaes more crytsals but hell who cares? Its easier to farm a dozen so called crappy crystals than spend 5 million on a crystal that will more often then not turn in a crummy tune.







I don't have anything against this system. Thats not what this post is about.


Its about crappy tuning - due to a bug un the tuning system...


The CSR says it will be fixed ASAP - so all I can say :


Don't tune crystals/pearls if you think you have a bug, waittil this bug is fixed!



Message Edited by Gaffacas on 10-16-2004 05:27 AM



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Gaffacas
Sat Oct 16, 2004 5:50 am
#17

any other than me experienced this?



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VPittou
Sat Oct 16, 2004 7:37 am
#18

tuned 20 quallity crystals , best was ...

3/3 damage -0,18 speed -2 fc
Metalsaber
Sat Oct 16, 2004 7:38 am
#19

Well I have had the nice experience of tuning. So far my master saber skills have been somewhat useless since I havent been able to acquire 4 crystals to be able to use a 4th gen saber. Thats just unacceptable.



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Maelstorm_1
Sat Oct 16, 2004 3:26 pm
#20






Gaffacas wrote:


[PM to CSRDanielD] I have just been talking with CSR-ShawnM about the Crystal Tuning - and a possible bug there - can you comment on this - Are there bugs in the Tuning Process???


[PM from CSRDanielD] Rare, isolated incidents. I haven't heard of it too frequently.


-Guess there are issues with ths tuning...-




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Zariell
Sat Oct 16, 2004 4:38 pm
#21


If the tuningsystem working as intended, itscompletely FLAWED, and the devs need to understand that. A working system would be as follows:


Poor: 0 to -2 force costing - 0 to +10 damage

Good: -2 to -4 force costing - +10 to +20 damage

Quality: -4 to -6 force costing - +20 to +30 damage

Select: -6 to -8 force costing - +30 to +40 damage

Premium: -8 to -9 force costing - +40 to +50 damage

Flawless: -9 Force - +50 damage -- No exceptions, if there were one then it simply, would not be "Flawless" now would it?

Message Edited by Zariell on 10-16-2004 04:39 PM



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Metalsaber
Sat Oct 16, 2004 4:41 pm
#22






Maelstorm_1 wrote:





Gaffacas wrote:


[PM to CSRDanielD] I have just been talking with CSR-ShawnM about the Crystal Tuning - and a possible bug there - can you comment on this - Are there bugs in the Tuning Process???


[PM from CSRDanielD] Rare, isolated incidents. I haven't heard of it too frequently.


-Guess there are issues with ths tuning...-




anyone still doubt tha CSRs are clueless?








DanielD needs a serious Promotion. Or needs to play the game more. Isolated incidents. Wow he must be right its currently isolated to the Jedi Forums. As long long as it doesnt make its way in game we are ok.


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Gaffacas
Sat Oct 16, 2004 7:47 pm
#23







Metalsaber wrote:





Maelstorm_1 wrote:





Gaffacas wrote:


[PM to CSRDanielD] I have just been talking with CSR-ShawnM about the Crystal Tuning - and a possible bug there - can you comment on this - Are there bugs in the Tuning Process???


[PM from CSRDanielD] Rare, isolated incidents. I haven't heard of it too frequently.


-Guess there are issues with ths tuning...-




anyone still doubt tha CSRs are clueless?








DanielD needs a serious Promotion. Or needs to play the game more. Isolated incidents. Wow he must be right its currently isolated to the Jedi Forums. As long long as it doesnt make its way in game we are ok.


IT'S A TRAP!!!






Hehe ya its kinda funny


Just a shame the Devs aren't telling people that there actually are bugs conserning the tuning!


That would be such a little thing to do - but still help so many people! Just last week I have tuned premium crystals tocrap - wastedabout30 millions!


- and THX CSR for not wanthing to help me get some of thise crystals back - so I can tune em once thise bugs are gone ( ahh .. why do I keep thinking the CSR will help me - I know it will never happen )



Message Edited by Gaffacas on 10-17-2004 11:31 AM



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Gaffacas
Sun Oct 17, 2004 4:03 am
#24






Zariell wrote:


If the tuningsystem working as intended, itscompletely FLAWED, and the devs need to understand that. A working system would be as follows:


Poor: 0 to -2 force costing - 0 to +10 damage

Good: -2 to -4 force costing - +10 to +20 damage

Quality: -4 to -6 force costing - +20 to +30 damage

Select: -6 to -8 force costing - +30 to +40 damage

Premium: -8 to -9 force costing - +40 to +50 damage

Flawless: -9 Force - +50 damage -- No exceptions, if there were one then it simply, would not be "Flawless" now would it?

Message Edited by Zariell on 10-16-2004 04:39 PM



Agree - but could be with a little more random, so lower quality had a chance of tuning nice too - but premium should tune like that 90% os the time and flawless all the time!!!




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Gaffacas
Sun Oct 17, 2004 4:44 am
#25

bump to let you guys know...



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Gaffacas
Sun Oct 17, 2004 2:03 pm
#26

and again




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