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How many skill points did you spend to get 7k+ resistance armor, and how many more skill points did you spend to put an armor break reduction slice on it? Oh yeah, you get superior armor for zero additional skill points beyond your ability to deal damage.

89 skill points worth of armor can be negated with a rather low level skill, and we have no counter. Err and please don't bring up the stupid crystal again because that bandaid doesn't begin to cover the wound.

Message Edited by Ebonfire on 10-27-2005 10:33 AM

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HarlequinMK19 wrote:

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AndrewAzzameen wrote:

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Ackehece wrote:

hmm in the last few days I have heard some good ideas from you all to help this profession. Well I know these are not perfect they do help . AND NO THIS IS NOT ME AS A CORRESPONDENT - this is me as a player.

1. give back the fs points - I completely agree with this (those 24 points are likeanchors )


2. allow all Jedi to wear "Standard" armor of any type but if you are defender or force armor user and wear it your innate or skillis supressed (like tk and armor). Standard armor is not quite as good as advanced (max 40% resist). I did see many people against it but it seems that Defender has better armor and so is force armor then this (so itwould still beworth getting those skills) but this would allow strange things like enhancer/powers to be a little more survivable. It does not debalance the BH/Jedi thingat all (as people with the other armors would still be using them rather then the standard.)

Message Edited by Ackehece on 10-27-200508:50 AM

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Uhh why are these good exactly? Armor + Lightsaber? That's not very jedi like... FS points is sort of why not I'd say thanks for it but it's not the thing we really need at the moment..

I would vote for Glzmo's idea.

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Obi-Wan Kenobi wore full Clone Armor during some of the Clone Wars...he even wore the helmet briefly.

I personally don't have a problem with a Jedi wearing some type of light armor. Back in the days of uber-composite, I can see why this would be a problem, however, this isn't the case anymore.

If some type of low-resist armor was provided...I don't really see a big deal personally. If a Jedi can have cybernetic limbs, I don't see why they can't wear armor.

Message Edited by HarlequinMK19 on 10-27-200511:27 AM

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heh can you tell me in which episode you saw this?

I think jedi have 0 need for normal armor at the moment, there are loads more important problems to focus on.

(and btw a guy handling a LS with a cyber arm is horrible enough..)

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AndrewAzzameen wrote:

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HarlequinMK19 wrote:

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AndrewAzzameen wrote:

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Ackehece wrote:

hmm in the last few days I have heard some good ideas from you all to help this profession. Well I know these are not perfect they do help . AND NO THIS IS NOT ME AS A CORRESPONDENT - this is me as a player.

1. give back the fs points - I completely agree with this (those 24 points are likeanchors )


2. allow all Jedi to wear "Standard" armor of any type but if you are defender or force armor user and wear it your innate or skillis supressed (like tk and armor). Standard armor is not quite as good as advanced (max 40% resist). I did see many people against it but it seems that Defender has better armor and so is force armor then this (so itwould still beworth getting those skills) but this would allow strange things like enhancer/powers to be a little more survivable. It does not debalance the BH/Jedi thingat all (as people with the other armors would still be using them rather then the standard.)

Message Edited by Ackehece on 10-27-200508:50 AM

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Uhh why are these good exactly? Armor + Lightsaber? That's not very jedi like... FS points is sort of why not I'd say thanks for it but it's not the thing we really need at the moment..

I would vote for Glzmo's idea.

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Obi-Wan Kenobi wore full Clone Armor during some of the Clone Wars...he even wore the helmet briefly.

I personally don't have a problem with a Jedi wearing some type of light armor. Back in the days of uber-composite, I can see why this would be a problem, however, this isn't the case anymore.

If some type of low-resist armor was provided...I don't really see a big deal personally. If a Jedi can have cybernetic limbs, I don't see why they can't wear armor.

Message Edited by HarlequinMK19 on 10-27-200511:27 AM

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heh can you tell me in which episode you saw this?

I think jedi have 0 need for normal armor at the moment, there are loads more important problems to focus on.

(and btw a guy handling a LS with a cyber arm is horrible enough..)

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I believe it was one of the episodes with Durge.

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Ebonfire wrote:

How many skill points did you spend to get 7k+ resistance armor, and how many more skill points did you spend to put an armor break reduction slice on it? Oh yeah, you get superior armor for zero additional skill points beyond your ability to deal damage.

80 skill points worth of armor can be negiated with a rather low level skill, and we have no counter. Err and please don't bring up the stupid crystal again because that bandaid doesn't begin to cover the wound.

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uh... maybe you should read next time . I did not say advanced armor at all (no 7k armor here) I said standard armor. Even armor broken a master defenders armor will still stop more damage then standard armor.I am not saying that you should get something for nothing. (well actually I am but I think that crafters should get armor as well and CL as well.... ) If you want we can place the standard armor cert's in the master boxs.

Force Armor and Defender Innate is still better then Standard armor by a large large margin. This would just be something for players who do not have either of them

Also your skill is not negated - it is just lessened with armor break on you. You still resist damage you would not have if you did not have the armor. Tks have the same issue.

How about robes or clokes with innate armor. This will leave the jedi look and grant us a little more defense.

Message Edited by sithlord6986 on 10-27-2005 11:41 AM

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sithlord6986 wrote:

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AndrewAzzameen wrote:

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HarlequinMK19 wrote:

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AndrewAzzameen wrote:

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Ackehece wrote:

hmm in the last few days I have heard some good ideas from you all to help this profession. Well I know these are not perfect they do help . AND NO THIS IS NOT ME AS A CORRESPONDENT - this is me as a player.

1. give back the fs points - I completely agree with this (those 24 points are likeanchors )


2. allow all Jedi to wear "Standard" armor of any type but if you are defender or force armor user and wear it your innate or skillis supressed (like tk and armor). Standard armor is not quite as good as advanced (max 40% resist). I did see many people against it but it seems that Defender has better armor and so is force armor then this (so itwould still beworth getting those skills) but this would allow strange things like enhancer/powers to be a little more survivable. It does not debalance the BH/Jedi thingat all (as people with the other armors would still be using them rather then the standard.)

Message Edited by Ackehece on 10-27-200508:50 AM

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Uhh why are these good exactly? Armor + Lightsaber? That's not very jedi like... FS points is sort of why not I'd say thanks for it but it's not the thing we really need at the moment..

I would vote for Glzmo's idea.

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Obi-Wan Kenobi wore full Clone Armor during some of the Clone Wars...he even wore the helmet briefly.

I personally don't have a problem with a Jedi wearing some type of light armor. Back in the days of uber-composite, I can see why this would be a problem, however, this isn't the case anymore.

If some type of low-resist armor was provided...I don't really see a big deal personally. If a Jedi can have cybernetic limbs, I don't see why they can't wear armor.

Message Edited by HarlequinMK19 on 10-27-200511:27 AM

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heh can you tell me in which episode you saw this?

I think jedi have 0 need for normal armor at the moment, there are loads more important problems to focus on.

(and btw a guy handling a LS with a cyber arm is horrible enough..)

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I believe it was one of the episodes with Durge.

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Sadly, Obi-Wan did not wear armor in any of the official 6 films.. Now, about the books.. They are not part of the canon and the most of them I've read are horrible... Ever read the one with Princess Leia having her kids kidnapped? Or with Chewie's kids being the first wookiee jedi? Or any other horrible and stupid excuses for a book?

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sithlord6986 wrote:

How about robes or clokes with innate armor. This will leave the jedi look and grant us a little more defense.

Message Edited by sithlord6986 on 10-27-200511:41 AM

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I don't think there should be any mods on jedi robes since they are forcing jedi to look identical.. Which isn't good. For example, if there was a +25 innate armor on the paddy robe everyone would be wearing that.. and that wouldn't be cool.

Jedi armor atm is totally alright as it is. There are much more imporant issues we need fixed.

hmm

pic of obiwan in armor (hard to see) from the clone wars cartoon

http://shop.starwars.com/catalog/product.xml?product_id=104328

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Ackehece wrote:

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Ebonfire wrote:

How many skill points did you spend to get 7k+ resistance armor, and how many more skill points did you spend to put an armor break reduction slice on it? Oh yeah, you get superior armor for zero additional skill points beyond your ability to deal damage.

80 skill points worth of armor can be negiated with a rather low level skill, and we have no counter. Err and please don't bring up the stupid crystal again because that bandaid doesn't begin to cover the wound.

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uh... maybe you should read next time . I did not say advanced armor at all (no 7k armor here) I said standard armor. Even armor broken a master defenders armor will still stop more damage then standard armor.I am not saying that you should get something for nothing. (well actually I am but I think that crafters should get armor as well and CL as well.... ) If you want we can place the standard armor cert's in the master boxs.

Force Armor and Defender Innate is still better then Standard armor by a large large margin. This would just be something for players who do not have either of them

Also your skill is not negated - it is just lessened with armor break on you. You still resist damage you would not have if you did not have the armor. Tks have the same issue.

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afterAB, amdef armor will stop more or would his defense stop more? i have to ask what is standard armor. cu beta i know the frogs read "advanced", standard and one other form of armor but when i look at armor on vendors i dont think i see that listing. what are the limits of "standard". tkms do have the same armor break problem but most have a 2nd elite for an armor cert.

Message Edited by hamhamthe3rd on 10-27-2005 11:48 AM

Actually Obi-won wears the armor in the clone wars cartoon. Never in the movies. But lucas did approve the cartoons and their content.

Please don't take this the wrong way, Ackehece, because I mean no offence.. but, did you unlock recently by any chance, or you're about to? Again, just a polite question.

Message Edited by UTech on 10-27-2005 08:49 AM

I do not believe jedi should be able to wear any armor types because jedi do not allow armor to hinder themselves. Ehh.... call me whatever u like.

However, I do believe bioEngineers or tailors should be able to craft some clothes that can be sliceable, that would be awesome. Those clothes could have some armor stats or something, but jedi running around in armor, Gaaaaaaaa I hope not

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Ackehece wrote:

hmm in the last few days I have heard some good ideas from you all to help this profession. Well I know these are not perfect they do help . AND NO THIS IS NOT ME AS A CORRESPONDENT - this is me as a player.

1. give back the fs points - I completely agree with this (those 24 points are likeanchors )


2. allow all Jedi to wear "Standard" armor of any type but if you are defender or force armor user and wear it your innate or skillis supressed (like tk and armor). Standard armor is not quite as good as advanced (max 40% resist). I did see many people against it but it seems that Defender has better armor and so is force armor then this (so itwould still beworth getting those skills) but this would allow strange things like enhancer/powers to be a little more survivable. It does not debalance the BH/Jedi thingat all (as people with the other armors would still be using them rather then the standard.)

Message Edited by Ackehece on 10-27-2005 08:50 AM

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Why can't they give our robes some basic armor stats as they once said would happen? Then after the FRS returns, the higher class robes can have higher defensive stats...