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Thread: A reminder to the Jedi community that might be some good news...

wookie-mart
Fri Oct 14, 2005 10:08 am
#14






Ghert wrote:

...no matter what the title says, every single Jedi out there has the Jedi rank of: Padawan. If not, initiate.


What does this tell us? It tells us that we're not even half-way through the road to a true Jedi. It means that maybe we're getting hit with all these nerfs is to insure that Padawans are up to par with any other combat profession.


Do you think for a second that developers would allow a Jedi Master in the new FRS could be beaten by 1 bounty hunter? No way, that would be complete bs. As padawans however, it makes sense for experienced bounty hunters to be able to take us down. Just think how powerful we will be in the new FRS. Who knows they might add in more combat level, more melee/ranged defense, or less downtime for heals. All I know is, FRS should be the #1 priority for our correspondent should be pushing for.


Just my thoughts...





You sir, are just what this forum needed. A breath of fresh air, a breath of hope. I decided not to read much further past your opening post since it's probably full of flames, tbh. I just wanted to state that I concur with your idea and that it makes a pretty good point when you look at from a purely simple angle. Everyone assumes that a 'padawan' would naturally be a much more powerful and a battle hardened BH.


Anyway, I think another thing people may forget is that being 1.5x as powerful as any other profession probably only means ONE profession. Us jedi are 1.5x more powerfull than MBH, not MBH/CM, MBH/MRifles, MBH/MCarbs, etc. That instantly explains why we are made to be so weak vs them. it's like 1.5 vs 2 or 1.5 vs 2.5 (depending on temp).


It sounds like the devs are literally rebuilding the FRS from the ground up and unfortunately for those that became knights/masters pre-cu, they got the supreme shaft. I only hope that once this new FRS is completed and out to Live, all those that had their pre-cu titles and skills will recieve the equivalent in the new FRS. I bet the Knightswill be 1.5x more powerfull than those combo temps, and Defenders/Master even more so, but who knows...


Thanks again, to the OP, for something new and original: Positivity /bow






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MasterHydro
Fri Oct 14, 2005 10:25 am
#15






wookie-mart wrote:





Ghert wrote:

...no matter what the title says, every single Jedi out there has the Jedi rank of: Padawan. If not, initiate.


What does this tell us? It tells us that we're not even half-way through the road to a true Jedi. It means that maybe we're getting hit with all these nerfs is to insure that Padawans are up to par with any other combat profession.


Do you think for a second that developers would allow a Jedi Master in the new FRS could be beaten by 1 bounty hunter? No way, that would be complete bs. As padawans however, it makes sense for experienced bounty hunters to be able to take us down. Just think how powerful we will be in the new FRS. Who knows they might add in more combat level, more melee/ranged defense, or less downtime for heals. All I know is, FRS should be the #1 priority for our correspondent should be pushing for.


Just my thoughts...





You sir, are just what this forum needed. A breath of fresh air, a breath of hope. I decided not to read much further past your opening post since it's probably full of flames, tbh. I just wanted to state that I concur with your idea and that it makes a pretty good point when you look at from a purely simple angle. Everyone assumes that a 'padawan' would naturally be a much more powerful and a battle hardened BH.


Anyway, I think another thing people may forget is that being 1.5x as powerful as any other profession probably only means ONE profession. Us jedi are 1.5x more powerfull than MBH, not MBH/CM, MBH/MRifles, MBH/MCarbs, etc. That instantly explains why we are made to be so weak vs them. it's like 1.5 vs 2 or 1.5 vs 2.5 (depending on temp).


It sounds like the devs are literally rebuilding the FRS from the ground up and unfortunately for those that became knights/masters pre-cu, they got the supreme shaft. I only hope that once this new FRS is completed and out to Live, all those that had their pre-cu titles and skills will recieve the equivalent in the new FRS. I bet the Knightswill be 1.5x more powerfull than those combo temps, and Defenders/Master even more so, but who knows...


Thanks again, to the OP, for something new and original: Positivity /bow








i disagree witht hat statement entirely, guild hall pvp'ing should notresort to increaseing through the FRS, hopefully the new FRS won't be able to be as such a joke as the first.



but ya, the thread creator has awesome observation and is exactly what the community needs.



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IsItSo
Fri Oct 14, 2005 10:36 am
#16

FRS? what??? thats going to come out some years time within the next decade???? doubtful the way the devs took a crap on the game's players on several other issues including buggy and unbalanced as sin. I would not expect the FRS too come out any month soon... just a fyi there are a lot of things this game has to do before that can happen and in the mean time jedi will be the crappiest profession simply because we can't progress our skills besides PvP practice against decked out BH's with 2000 tick heals. it isan easy concept to see that jedi is simply not jedi without the FRS. And I do not believe you guys will be seeing jedi getting better for a long time
Just4MOnths
Fri Oct 14, 2005 10:43 am
#17

well maybe u are right but i said this b4 u guys saw ep 3 right? remember that paddy that came out of the temple and took out like 5 clone troopers??? that guy looked like 15 at the most (george lucas son)and those troopers are modified version of the,prolly, best BH in the galaxy so there u go =)
Hulke
Fri Oct 14, 2005 10:54 am
#18

Sounds great. When does the FRS come out again? I think everyone would agree with you except we have no way of getting more powerful than padawan because there is no FRS.
EcadMistflier
Fri Oct 14, 2005 11:00 am
#19

Grinding is the game. Soon as too many have the "latest greatest" out come the nerf bats to set up the next series of grinds to achieve the next "latest greatest". Rinse, repeat. That's SoE's way with SWG.



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Jedi_Xan
Fri Oct 14, 2005 11:29 am
#20

This is what I think about it as well. Padawan (i.e. - Learner, Student, Apprentice) does not a master make. Even at 224 SP invested, you are merely but a learner, ready to test. You are not all powerful at this level, and certainly not powerful enough to take on a Master Bounty Hunter. I am not saying that Jedi should be weak. But the difference is that as a padawan, you are not a master. You are still learning your skill, per say. A BH would be, and should be, a tough tough fight.


This, in combination with Obi Wan, leads me to believe that the FRS is right around the corner, and the devs are merely getting the basket ready for the FRS. I see theKnight Trials closely related to the ghost of Obi Wan at some point in the near future.






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LordVader008
Fri Oct 14, 2005 11:30 am
#21

um, if it was up to the devs the FRS would be gone a long long time ago....



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Jedi_Xan
Fri Oct 14, 2005 11:40 am
#22






LordVader008 wrote:
um, if it was up to the devs the FRS would be gone a long long time ago....





uhm... you don't know that. Not everything works on your timetable. The devs do not, and are not obligated to, have to disclose anything. The new FRS system will come out, and most likely, it wont even be called the FRS. Hell, you guys probably won't even recognize it is the new FRS.



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TrogdorrtheBurninator
Fri Oct 14, 2005 11:54 am
#23

your right, they are not obligated to disclose anything... but they might want to if they enjoy being paid. most MMO's mention upcoming changes/plans to the player base to keep the money coming



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Digitalalchemyzt
Fri Oct 14, 2005 1:25 pm
#24

man...if i see a Master Jedi get killed by a single bounty hunter...im boycotting em...
Ghert
Fri Oct 14, 2005 4:31 pm
#25






Hulke wrote:
Sounds great. When does the FRS come out again? I think everyone would agree with you except we have no way of getting more powerful than padawan because there is no FRS.






That's a major problem isn't it? Once you complete your template your stuck! Nothing to do, stuck as a paddy that can barley handle a fotm bounty hunter. Since no one knows when the FRS will be coming back, we can only hope that it will be completely different from the old FRS. From what I heard, exploits and fightclubs were the ways to achieve ranks in the old frs.



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BeefStoo
Fri Oct 14, 2005 4:34 pm
#26






Ghert wrote:

...no matter what the title says, every single Jedi out there has the Jedi rank of: Padawan. If not, initiate.


What does this tell us? It tells us that we're not even half-way through the road to a true Jedi. It means that maybe we're getting hit with all these nerfs is to insure that Padawans are up to par with any other combat profession.


Do you think for a second that developers would allow a Jedi Master in the new FRS could be beaten by 1 bounty hunter? No way, that would be complete bs. As padawans however, it makes sense for experienced bounty hunters to be able to take us down. Just think how powerful we will be in the new FRS. Who knows they might add in more combat level, more melee/ranged defense, or less downtime for heals. All I know is, FRS should be the #1 priority for our correspondent should be pushing for.


Just my thoughts...





I really hope this isn't the way it's going to be, saythis guydidn't want to enter the FRS because he didn't want to be light or dark jedi. Then he's screwed over as far as his ability to fight vs. the decision he makes goes.
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