Jedi Archive
Thread: Weaponsmiths want ADK nerfed. Voice your disapproval.
Casshern_Greyfox
Mon Oct 17, 2005 4:05 am
#14
If they nerfed ADK i would never use my ADKed saber since i cant even get pearls like the ones the ones that are in it now
Message Edited by Casshern_Greyfox on 10-17-2005 07:06 AM
UTech
Mon Oct 17, 2005 5:15 am
#15
As far as I'm concerned ADK's can go away completely. Hilts don't decay, colour crystals are a dime a dozen, and pearls/crystals don't decay that fast anyways.
Removing ADK's would give some game back to the WS's, and maybe if all those precious bloody premiums in the perfect sabers started decaying,decent pearlsmight start dropping again.
ADK's are a majorcontributing factorto the delay in restoring pearl drops.
MrDoppa
Mon Oct 17, 2005 5:18 am
#16
the most important thing about my adk is that it allows me to save the pearls that I have. Without them, could you imagine just how gimped (more gimped) the jedi prof would be?
Zara-
Mon Oct 17, 2005 5:21 am
#17
I actually agree with the Weaponsmith's too. There profession most likely suffers immensley from ADK's, not so much from the Jedi. Remove them if they wish too, im quite happy to make another saber and find new crystals/pearls when i have too. Yes i do have a pre-cu saber and pearls, but that doesnt change my opinion.
mort666
Mon Oct 17, 2005 5:36 am
#18
The ADK discussion from the WS forum is a result of the total shafting the weaponsmith profession got as a result of the RoTW expansion and what looks to be on the cards for ToOW. The problem is too many looted or quest weapons that it is not possible to compete with. I know I have a WS, for the time after the CU and before RoTW really struck home business was good, however when people started picking up these looted weapons the market disappeared for anything other than one off builds when people get some nice cubes, tissues, etc.
The ADK is being used as a scapegoat for a much larger problem, that is the none combat professions are getting the shaft with each of the recent expansions. I personally think any ADK nerf at the moment is stupid, personally the problem could be addressed by making it possible for WS to reverse engineer these looted or quest weapons to make their own versions of them.
As a community we should not be calling for nerfs, it will always come to bite us on the butt later. We should encourage the creation of balance through enhancement not nerfing.
The ADK is being used as a scapegoat for a much larger problem, that is the none combat professions are getting the shaft with each of the recent expansions. I personally think any ADK nerf at the moment is stupid, personally the problem could be addressed by making it possible for WS to reverse engineer these looted or quest weapons to make their own versions of them.
As a community we should not be calling for nerfs, it will always come to bite us on the butt later. We should encourage the creation of balance through enhancement not nerfing.
KingoftheGrind
Mon Oct 17, 2005 5:41 am
#19
I agree that anti decay kits have hurt the crafting professions. Although, being a jedi i cannot see how you could survive without it.
The only way they could successfully remove anti decay without losing 90% of the jedi population on all servers ( which is probably 50% of player base or more) , is to make crystals and pearls drop like its Christmas time. They would have to bring back premiums and flawless pearls and crystals so that jedi could hunt for there saber needs as they need them .
Actaully this is how it should be in my opinion. Would give me as a jedi something to do , plus you wouldnt always see the same jedi with uber sabers if your pearls and crystals decayed , would be exciting for once to actaully loot crystals and pearls and have the excitment of tuning them agian.
But like i said , they would have to drastically increase the drop rate so that looters cannot flood the economy with million dollar pearls and such.
EVILxWARLOCK
Mon Oct 17, 2005 5:41 am
#20
There is a simple way to solve this. Insted of the NPC dropping or rewarding a weapon, armor or anything like that it gives you the schematic for it. Then you have to take it to the correct crafter to get it made. Like the geo pistols and stuff.
mort666 wrote:
The ADK discussion from the WS forum is a result of the total shafting the weaponsmith profession got as a result of the RoTW expansion and what looks to be on the cards for ToOW. The problem is too many looted or quest weapons that it is not possible to compete with. I know I have a WS, for the time after the CU and before RoTW really struck home business was good, however when people started picking up these looted weapons the market disappeared for anything other than one off builds when people get some nice cubes, tissues, etc.
The ADK is being used as a scapegoat for a much larger problem, that is the none combat professions are getting the shaft with each of the recent expansions. I personally think any ADK nerf at the moment is stupid, personally the problem could be addressed by making it possible for WS to reverse engineer these looted or quest weapons to make their own versions of them.
As a community we should not be calling for nerfs, it will always come to bite us on the butt later. We should encourage the creation of balance through enhancement not nerfing.
Narut0
Mon Oct 17, 2005 5:47 am
#21
LMFAO ROFL OMG PLEASE THE PAIN IT HURTS....
Weaponsmiths don't make sabers so they can shut the hell up.
Weaponsmiths don't make sabers so they can shut the hell up.
KRAKEN666
Mon Oct 17, 2005 5:49 am
#22
Since adk's for jedi are mainly used for protecting light saber pearls and crystals, the adk nerf isnt directly aimed at us because no weapon smith can craft a saber...but this does affect us.Guys we have an oppertunity to be on the ws's sides on this one, gimp uber weapons by bh that are not currently decaying, and support a proffesion that for some reason has been a critic of ours. We should push for adk's notto be used anymore if we can get the assurance that pearls and crystals dont decay and are reusable. It would have to be a straight compromise with no devations from the original plan....I dont mind crafting a new saber as long as my pearls are safe. Even a warning that comes up and says my saber has only 10% life left in it would be fine as long asI didnt loose the pearls and crystals.
Kal_Choedan
Mon Oct 17, 2005 5:55 am
#23
Weapons shouldnt be allowed ADK's on them. Its not as if a WS cant make the same stat stuff again is it. We cant replace our perls. So yeah normal profesions can do without ADK's we cant.
mort666
Mon Oct 17, 2005 5:56 am
#24
EVILxWARLOCK wrote:
There is a simple way to solve this. Insted of the NPC dropping or rewarding a weapon, armor or anything like that it gives you the schematic for it. Then you have to take it to the correct crafter to get it made. Like the geo pistols and stuff.
That would work too, but I've always liked the idea of the reverse engineering the thing to get your own schematics, especially as you make the process of schematic recovery a little bit of content in itself. Especially if for instance for a Proton Carbine you first have to RE the Carbine to get the overall schem, then break one down to recover the special barrel, then RE that recovered barrel to get the schem for that before you could make it.
JediAsh
Mon Oct 17, 2005 5:57 am
#25
Remember WS also got a huge kick in the groin in the CU, with only certain weapons even being worth crafting. Before when you would see a different selection of weapons while browsing vendors, now its all the same set of CL50+ weapons.
Narut0
Mon Oct 17, 2005 6:00 am
#26
i think we need a new novice jedi ablity. /forcesnatchnsmashn00bbountyhuntersuberweaoinsthathavebeenanti-decayed
or not.
dilemer here.
Weaponsmith say change ADK
jedi 50/50 on the idea
BH say NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
jedi still 50/50 without having flawless/premiums we can't keep our dmg above normal.
or not.
dilemer here.
Weaponsmith say change ADK
jedi 50/50 on the idea
BH say NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
jedi still 50/50 without having flawless/premiums we can't keep our dmg above normal.