Jedi Archive
Thread: Ouch: first fight with a good MBH/MCM . . .
Tanilith wrote:
okay Danluf, do me a favor, since you are on my server.
go get Efetta to fight you (the MCM / MBH I fought) and then come back and let me know EXACTLY how you beat him. Complete with screenies and everything.
other than that . . . yeah. thanks, bye.
wow, this can actually be settled, now im intrested to be proved wrong , i want to see the results too
Message Edited by ALARIA on 09-14-2005 03:30 PM
Valaris_Skyevallen wrote:
We got a guy on SF right now that has that highest AB reduction sliced stuff on very high stat RIS. Template is for sure MBH/MCM with either some pistoleer or more healing with Doc. Apparently he is the best since he's got the most kills, tho only like 5 people use the account....because of this reason. I've got a tied fight ratio with the toon right now (50% win ratio). I've got MLS/Mdef/3000H/0002E. Longest fight is at 60 mins, literally. Any other BH would have walked away and gotten their money times 2 or 3 on other lesser fights.
On several occasions it has been mentioned that many Jedi don't use their states because they don't know what they do.
My experience with the FOTM BH's right now, is if you can wait out all their buffs, foods, etc.......you will win in the end. Also use kneel and prone to your advantage....while kneel helps regen mind fairly well, prone regens better and both positions allow you to attack still. (if it is a bug, I wouldn't know as it has been working like this for a long long time.)
Kneel? Prone? we can't fight in those positions can we? if so . . it seems like that would be an exploit . . . . .
you jsut need top pay attention on when he uses hes last stim
ventilador wrote:
use my espcial trick, had a same bh visit yesterday, 350+ poison fires, all hes cm crap,
the bh was a very good one called regen on eclipse, it has been the only bh that gave me real big issues since i finsihed my template,
anyways with my 555 dps saber, worse than your i can beat them, how? easy, jsut learn to fight, practise,
use this deadly combiniation,
-saberthrow
-saberhit
-saber power attack
use it when bh has aorund 1000 health, and hes sushi!!
/sigh.
Yes you can beat them depending on what template you have choosen, but the good ones are VERY VERY hard to beat even if you have a tailored template.
Some templates are useless against Combat Medics.
There are many variables to take into account other than just the players skill.
Overall template choice.
Saber stats.
Food choice.
Initial situation you are in when they attack.
DanlufCuCar wrote:
Iwawmi wrote:
whatever you say, but this is simple fact
you cannot beat someone who knows the MBH / MCM temp well , you simply cannot outdamage their healing / mind regen ( even with perfect lightsabers)
the best you can do is run
thats not right... you can beat them, if you know your template well.
69 deathblows against BH's with my missionpost CU....I've let well over 40 walk away after incap by saying "don't attack, don't heal, just get up and walk away....slowly" I have not been killed by a BH with my mission post CU and have only been incapped once, and that was by a guy that took my mission then respecd out of BH and into smuggler 4000 for last ditch...he landed it on me, but I got up first....
that said....day before yesterday I was chased in excess of 5k on foot, taking well over an hour before the BH just unexpectedly vanished as I was nearing a safety zone....I've fought every BH template that has any possibility of successat least twice, and most dozens of times, the CM variations included in the latter....this one was different....she was good....there was no winning this fight....there was only survival.....trust me folks...there is a world of difference between the run of the mill CM's and the good ones.....when I say good, I'm talking about the 1%'ers...go on thinking their all an easy kill, but you have been warned....against some, your only hope will be cloak or root....or like me....an hour long retreat in the face of constant danger requiring total mastery of ham and force management.
and that's just to survive.
teamdoa wrote:
Yes you can beat them depending on what template you have choosen, but the good ones are VERY VERY hard to beat even if you have a tailored template.
Some templates are useless against Combat Medics.
There are many variables to take into account other than just the players skill.
Overall template choice.
Saber stats.
Food choice.
Initial situation you are in when they attack.
i know for a fact kneel works, worked before cu and still works. any prof can fight from the kneel position after each special attack your toon just settles back in the kneel stance
Tanilith wrote:
Kneel? Prone? we can't fight in those positions can we? if so . . it seems like that would be an exploit . . . . .
This guy knows exactly what i'm talking about!
69 deathblows against BH's with my missionpost CU....I've let well over 40 walk away after incap by saying "don't attack, don't heal, just get up and walk away....slowly" I have not been killed by a BH with my mission post CU and have only been incapped once, and that was by a guy that took my mission then respecd out of BH and into smuggler 4000 for last ditch...he landed it on me, but I got up first....
that said....day before yesterday I was chased in excess of 5k on foot, taking well over an hour before the BH just unexpectedly vanished as I was nearing a safety zone....I've fought every BH template that has any possibility of successat least twice, and most dozens of times, the CM variations included in the latter....this one was different....she was good....there was no winning this fight....there was only survival.....trust me folks...there is a world of difference between the run of the mill CM's and the good ones.....when I say good, I'm talking about the 1%'ers...go on thinking their all an easy kill, but you have been warned....against some, your only hope will be cloak or root....or like me....an hour long retreat in the face of constant danger requiring total mastery of ham and force management.
and that's just to survive.