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Thread: How to Fix Jedi

Policia
Mon Aug 02, 2004 12:20 am
#14

I'm all for making jedi "Hard but very rewarding", but that doesn't mean Jedi should be weak until they get to the extremely high ranks. Jedi should simply have to be careful, and hide. In my opinion the visibility system is rediculous. As long as a Jedi keeps his lightsaber away in front of other players, and his title hidden in town, there should be no reason for him to be hunted. However if a jedi does use his powers or lightsaber in front of other players, there should be a feature for players to report the Jedi to the opposing faction, which would increase visibility.


Getting reported enough would put you on the BH terms, which should actually be something the Jedi should be worried, not because they might have a griefing exploiter following them, but because the BH profession actually gets made worth a damn, and one BH is strong competition for Jedi. Now I'm not saying we should make BH the new uber profession and everyone becomes BH because it's as powerful as Jedi, but I'd propose an idea I've had for awhile :


Individual class interaction. This would make each class interact with each other differently in combat. For example:


Each class would have special modifiers against each other profession. So that a TKA would be pretty much guarenteed to be taken apart by a rifleman, but would be very strong competition for a Jedi, and the rifleman that takes apart that TKA, would bean easy kill for the Jedi.


Basically it would eliminate defense stacking and other such problems, as each class would have something(s) it was strong against, and something(s) it was weak against. In this manner we could make BH especially competent against Jedi, but normal against other professions, to make sure everyone doesn't take BH just to be uber.


Thats just the idea I've been kicking around for awhile, I think it would be much better then the current system for combat, and it would give Jedi a reason to fear BH's, but have control over whether or not they are hunted.



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Allanon84j
Fri Jul 29, 2005 11:58 am
#15

Hey all,


This is howjedishould be fixed: Healer should be given innate armor only in the tier 4 boxes and at master... However Healer shouldn't have as much innate armor as defender does. Healer should also be granted a Heal ability to heal the group which takes little force and has a cool down timer of 6 seconds this special would take 5-10% of mind at a time... Healer should also be able to heal themselvesevery 2 seconds, and other players every 6.


Powers should also be granted Innate armor.. but not as much as defender.. The dev's should remove cloak - why? because its like harry potter meets starwars eaither that or make the cool down timer longer than 15 seconds more towards a minute so when FRS is turned back on they cant come out of cloak keep themselves healed and then cloak agian... Powers force attacks damage should be 1 1/2 times as strong as they are now- Keep in mind choke is getting nerfed.. but lightning should do an extreme amount of dammage for those players who dont have force shield. Also powers force breach should be an area attack and have a cool down timer of 30 seconds.


Enhancer's force armor and shield should be improved and shouldn't drain more than 100 force every 5 minutes.. Advanced Force Run should be improved to run faster than BARC speeders. Enhancer should also have a 3 minute timer TEFplaced on Regain consousness this is so if a player is killed by enemies he can have a 3 minute timer where they cannot attack him (to be turned on when frs is back) However the players force regen should be seriously damage for 1 hour(increased loss of regen). Statis should have a 30 -45 second cool down timer. Force Suppression duration should be increased. Resist states /bleeding/posion/disease should increase the resistance by 60% at master enhancer and in fr should increase by 2.5%-5% each rank .


Defender's avoid incap should not be able to be stackable... see now that if you regain more than 1 time the force regen that is slowed is stacked each time you regen... Defender force valor shouldn't be stackable there should be a 5 second cool down timer on each aura and valor... Defender templates which stack force armor and innate armor shouldn't be allowed to run Aura if force armor is on, or valor. The AI should be increased by +500 points... and have a cool down timer of 1 minute after being used one time. Innate armor should cap 10 points lower to prevent innate armor stackers..


Lightsaber - Lightsaber block should be increased by 25points. Force cost & Mind/SAC costs should be lowered when using specials andbasic attacks. Lightsaber should also recieve aspecialbonus only atmasterwith + 5 or +10 to innate armor.

If allowing players to stack armor break continues armor break should be based only on percentage IE.- 50% 40% etc...


tell me what you think... oru can flame away..





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Thoreson
Thu Sep 08, 2005 4:23 pm
#16

this fixes pearls dps post-pre cu fanbois and flames this will solve all our problems.

make light sabers 1 touch = death, if you get area'd w/ a saber your dead, if you get head hit by a saber your dead in 1 shot, it worked in the movies right??? why cant it work here..... the only thing that would delay a 1 touch from a light saber death is actual armor.

why not, id LOVE to see this in game for 1 week.

lightsaber crafting wouldnt mean much, and there wouldnt be a huge divide between post an pre cu jedi , cause dps is no longer a faction, in fact!!!! light sabers will have no dps , they will just simply kill you if your touched by them or incur any damage by them!!

go me woot!




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Tarja-
Thu Sep 08, 2005 4:51 pm
#17

or...


1. fix pearl drops


2. fix saber speed mod


3. give us FRS back





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Skread13
Thu Sep 08, 2005 4:58 pm
#18

Better yet kick them out of GCW, then make them all powerful.



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Thoreson
Fri Sep 09, 2005 1:10 am
#19


ah, i dunno man i was watching starwars tonight and it looks like ppl die in 1 hit from a light saber.

i mean thats the whole concept of the light saber and elegant weapon for a more civilized time.

this totally fixes the dps issue honestly devs just make this part of the game



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Octinara
Fri Sep 09, 2005 1:22 am
#20

ummm saber dps doesnt matter because it doesnt work.



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Hindaafen
Fri Sep 09, 2005 1:24 am
#21

Want too fix Jedi? Want too fix the game?


Rollback servers too May4th and there you have it.



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GeckoFighter
Fri Sep 09, 2005 1:49 am
#22






Hindaafen wrote:

Want too fix Jedi? Want too fix the game?


Rollback servers too May4th and there you have it.





simple. clean. and so very true




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magneto2
Fri Sep 09, 2005 4:13 am
#23

/agree....rollback to may 4th,,,no one will notice, and ill have a great star wars game again




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shwigetty
Fri Sep 09, 2005 4:37 am
#24



magneto2 wrote:
/agree....rollback to may 4th,,,no one will notice, and ill have a great star wars game again




qfe...



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MasterGettingOnTerms
Fri Sep 09, 2005 5:36 am
#25






Tarja- wrote:

or...


1. fix pearl drops


2. fix saber speed mod


3. give us FRS back







qfe



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DaniB
Fri Sep 09, 2005 5:39 am
#26






Skread13 wrote:
Better yet kick them out of GCW, then make them all powerful.




yeah, normal professions arent even screwed on the PvE world dominated by jedi then, since there ISNT any worthwileloot for everyone but mbh!
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