Jedi Archive

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acmtalk wrote:
Cloak is, and will still be the most Powerfull jedi skill in game, thats Why I think they should move it to master powers, Make master powers more "rewarding".. FRS?? oh well, Its your choice to choose your template, If you are 24/7 overt, you should not be alone + we dont even know how the new frs will look like, Or if it will be back in the game....

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Well see, I agree with what your saying on some of this "Its your choice of template" crap... However the counter to cloak is obviously not even present and we all know this.

Telling me what to do or how to role overt (nope sorry you cant do that either)... if you were in the prior FRS you know that it happens and you do at times... I did and IM on Bria lol.

Now will the FRS be back in the game? oh yes... I wish you could see my Knight robe in my inv and the mere fact it did not change the 5 new robes in the .tre files in YOUR swg folder right now as we speak exsist for a reason. In fact I think its coming back sooner then some think..

So again, this is not a "you choose your template crap" This skill in the FRS would be out of hand and the ones that know this are the ones that were in the FRS prior to shut down...

Unless we are not perma overt.. in this system it will be a mess fast and I know it.

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iskareot wrote:

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acmtalk wrote:
Cloak is, and will still be the most Powerfull jedi skill in game, thats Why I think they should move it to master powers, Make master powers more "rewarding".. FRS?? oh well, Its your choice to choose your template, If you are 24/7 overt, you should not be alone + we dont even know how the new frs will look like, Or if it will be back in the game....

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Well see, I agree with what your saying on some of this "Its your choice of template" crap... However the counter to cloak is obviously not even present and we all know this.

Telling me what to do or how to role overt (nope sorry you cant do that either)... if you were in the prior FRS you know that it happens and you do at times... I did and IM on Bria lol.

Now will the FRS be back in the game? oh yes... I wish you could see my Knight robe in my inv and the mere fact it did not change the 5 new robes in the .tre files in YOUR swg folder right now as we speak exsist for a reason. In fact I think its coming back sooner then some think..

So again, this is not a "you choose your template crap" This skill in the FRS would be out of hand and the ones that know this are the ones that were in the FRS prior to shut down...

Unless we are not perma overt.. in this system it will be a mess fast and I know it.

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before you argue rubbish prove to me were devs have stated

a) the frs will be simular to the old

b) you will be perma overt

you are speculating 100% to try to make up arguements to back a nerf

I can't see how it would be a mess in the FRS.

For me to get frs xp, I need to come out of cloak and fight.

For me to maintain the rank, I need to come out of cloak and fight.

If people just stay cloaked, well they won't get anywhere in the frs.

I'm curious as to why you would think it would mess the FRS up.

explain it to me so I can see it from your point of view please.

Message Edited by rebellious_imp on 09-17-2005 12:30 PM

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Yny wrote:

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iskareot wrote:

You guys had to know that some kind of nerf was coming to it though.

For any of you that were IN the FRS also know that if they turned it on what would happen...

I know I do and this would be a mess in about 5 minutes.

They still need to tweak it more or this will get so bad it will get nerfed completly.

Message Edited by iskareot on 09-17-2005 02:05 PM

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After cloak, they will move on to nerfing stasis. It's the next undefendable skill. Same thing happened after Pub-9.

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Yny wrote:

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iskareot wrote:

You guys had to know that some kind of nerf was coming to it though.

For any of you that were IN the FRS also know that if they turned it on what would happen...

I know I do and this would be a mess in about 5 minutes.

They still need to tweak it more or this will get so bad it will get nerfed completly.

Message Edited by iskareot on 09-17-2005 02:05 PM

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After cloak, they will move on to nerfing stasis. It's the next undefendable skill. Same thing happened after Pub-9.

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I guess they should nerf paralyze and concussion shot too.

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iskareot wrote:

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Yny wrote:

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iskareot wrote:

You guys had to know that some kind of nerf was coming to it though.

For any of you that were IN the FRS also know that if they turned it on what would happen...

I know I do and this would be a mess in about 5 minutes.

They still need to tweak it more or this will get so bad it will get nerfed completly.

Message Edited by iskareot on 09-17-2005 02:05 PM

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After cloak, they will move on to nerfing stasis. It's the next undefendable skill. Same thing happened after Pub-9.

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the difference about it breaking on damage helps this one more though... cloak healing and and all the other issues is a bit different -- plus you can see a Enahncer coming at you with his 20 guys.. not cloakers..

More or less you could just camp a guys house and keep griefing on the perma overt levels there is so many other things its not funny..I just see this getting messy at a level above paddy...and lets face it there is more then just camping that can be a issue.

Now be clear I want it to stay its FUN yes FUN... but somthing will have to be done for this skill to be used in the FRS system..

And if you were never in this system then pretty much saying "you know" is null.

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I can see a master enahncer at each starport doing this

ahh 2 jedi loaded

/g guys 2 jedi in bestine i will stasis and wait for you to come

or a master defender in each starport doing this

ahh 2 jedi loaded

/g guys 2 jedi attacking me in bestine plenty of force left come get some frs

.....Now lets go nerf these skills after cloak

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rebellious_imp wrote:
I can't see how it would be a mess in the FRS.

For me to get frs xp, I need to come out of cloak and fight.

For me to maintain the rank, I need to come out of cloak and fight.

If people just stay cloaked, well they won't get anywhere in the frs.

I'm curious as to why you would think it would mess the FRS up.

explain it to me so I can see it from your point of view please.

Message Edited by rebellious_imp on 09-17-2005 12:30 PM

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You were not in the FRS so I know this may not be clear... for a few.

True the FRS has not been stated to being the same - BUT Im going on some of the previous fixes in this game since I have been here from beta.

However, from cloak camping people to cloak healing (fixed now) -- to cloak teams just simply camping a house from a player that is perma overt (AGAIN if this applies)...

Everything from the Enclave to shrines could be a mess... at least on my Server -- Im on Bria its not a small server and we are capped as it is.. trust me if it can be done I can safley say we can figure it out.

The smaller servers may not have this same issue but I can tell you there is alot more things you can do cloaked and with the perma overt (if it applies) status enabled this wont just be like Special forces fighting... it was not like that before.. Again, there is alot more-- but I mean advertising ways to exploit other things is not the thing to do right now... in fact its a bad move for me to even say one thing about it and I know better.

I just know a problem when I see it in the game and this one needs to be "looked at" -- or people with the skill could loose it completley.

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cloudwalker1 wrote:

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iskareot wrote:

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Yny wrote:

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iskareot wrote:

You guys had to know that some kind of nerf was coming to it though.

For any of you that were IN the FRS also know that if they turned it on what would happen...

I know I do and this would be a mess in about 5 minutes.

They still need to tweak it more or this will get so bad it will get nerfed completly.

Message Edited by iskareot on 09-17-2005 02:05 PM

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After cloak, they will move on to nerfing stasis. It's the next undefendable skill. Same thing happened after Pub-9.

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the difference about it breaking on damage helps this one more though... cloak healing and and all the other issues is a bit different -- plus you can see a Enahncer coming at you with his 20 guys.. not cloakers..

More or less you could just camp a guys house and keep griefing on the perma overt levels there is so many other things its not funny..I just see this getting messy at a level above paddy...and lets face it there is more then just camping that can be a issue.

Now be clear I want it to stay its FUN yes FUN... but somthing will have to be done for this skill to be used in the FRS system..

And if you were never in this system then pretty much saying "you know" is null.

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I can see a master enahncer at each starport doing this

ahh 2 jedi loaded

/g guys 2 jedi in bestine i will stasis and wait for you to come

or a master defender in each starport doing this

ahh 2 jedi loaded

/g guys 2 jedi attacking me in bestine plenty of force left come get some frs

.....Now lets go nerf these skills after cloak

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We can and that is great.. but you know better if you were in the old system.. there is a big diffrence from seeing someone and not.. kinda a big difference...lol nice try though.

Again, Im not agreeing with the nerf... you sound defensive... I just hope they adjust it before it gets the shaft man... your preaching to the choir on Jedi nerfs.. I was screaming to stop them before you were even a Jedi lol.

I guess i can see what your saying about the camping, and the ganking.

There is still gonna be starport ganking and camping though

I'd be happy with having it moved to the masters box.

Message Edited by rebellious_imp on 09-17-2005 12:44 PM

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iskareot wrote:

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cloudwalker1 wrote:

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iskareot wrote:

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Yny wrote:

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iskareot wrote:

You guys had to know that some kind of nerf was coming to it though.

For any of you that were IN the FRS also know that if they turned it on what would happen...

I know I do and this would be a mess in about 5 minutes.

They still need to tweak it more or this will get so bad it will get nerfed completly.

Message Edited by iskareot on 09-17-2005 02:05 PM

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After cloak, they will move on to nerfing stasis. It's the next undefendable skill. Same thing happened after Pub-9.

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the difference about it breaking on damage helps this one more though... cloak healing and and all the other issues is a bit different -- plus you can see a Enahncer coming at you with his 20 guys.. not cloakers..

More or less you could just camp a guys house and keep griefing on the perma overt levels there is so many other things its not funny..I just see this getting messy at a level above paddy...and lets face it there is more then just camping that can be a issue.

Now be clear I want it to stay its FUN yes FUN... but somthing will have to be done for this skill to be used in the FRS system..

And if you were never in this system then pretty much saying "you know" is null.

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I can see a master enahncer at each starport doing this

ahh 2 jedi loaded

/g guys 2 jedi in bestine i will stasis and wait for you to come

or a master defender in each starport doing this

ahh 2 jedi loaded

/g guys 2 jedi attacking me in bestine plenty of force left come get some frs

.....Now lets go nerf these skills after cloak

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We can and that is great.. but you know better if you were in the old system.. there is a big diffrence from seeing someone and not.. kinda a big difference...lol nice try though.

Again, Im not agreeing with the nerf... you sound defensive... I just hope they adjust it before it gets the shaft man... your preaching to the choir on Jedi nerfs.. I was screaming to stop them before you were even a Jedi lol.

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how the hell do u know when i was jedi........ and i was in the old system didnt do mas farming of BH to get frs points reached rank 2 got the robes in the bank. Thanks

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xEPICx wrote:

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Yny wrote:

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iskareot wrote:

You guys had to know that some kind of nerf was coming to it though.

For any of you that were IN the FRS also know that if they turned it on what would happen...

I know I do and this would be a mess in about 5 minutes.

They still need to tweak it more or this will get so bad it will get nerfed completly.

Message Edited by iskareot on 09-17-2005 02:05 PM

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After cloak, they will move on to nerfing stasis. It's the next undefendable skill. Same thing happened after Pub-9.

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I guess they should nerf paralyze and concussion shot too.

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