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Thread: Why does everyone think a good saber is owed to them?

Noordy
Sat Sep 17, 2005 6:51 am
#14






Anakroid wrote:

And to the OP, why do YOU think no one should have a good saber besides you? Because you worked hard, in a video game? Sounds silly doesn't it?


Ive seen no one ask for a good saber, though I have seen many ask for the OPPORTUNITY to loot the same quality pearls pre-cu jedi had access to, no matter how low the drop rate is. From there it's in the hands of the random tunes.


Before someone screams that krayts were sooo much harder pre-cu, they weren't. They had higher ham, but had almost 0 chance of killing you. Now they have low ham (and high health regen)but can kill you in a blink if you aren't careful.






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STLpMpNu
Sat Sep 17, 2005 6:56 am
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vaeka wrote:

STL your statement on Krayts is not fully true.....ask your guild mate FastEddie he is in my opinion the greatest krayt hunter on SS. Yes it was not, run out to the grave yard and you find a krayt like it is now, but if you knew what to do with in 30-45 mins you had a krayt and it spawned several times with a chance of dropping a premium pearl.

Right now there is no chance of getting a premium pearl....allI ask for is a chance to get one I don't care ifI have to spend hours a day to get one, but at least give me the chance.I have tuned well over 1500 combinations of post CUcrystals, and pearls ranging from fair to quality and have not even come close to a good stat pearl say 115 -8.....we are talking like 89 -2 or 25 -5.


My point I would like the same opportunity you had to get premium pearls under the same difficulties you had. I think that is a fair request.


Vaeka





Yes i was knee deep with him the majority of the times he was out there. Sure there was a chance a small chance but it was still there you had to tack on everyone else in the group who wanted one as well. Wasn't easy to do either took alot of effort. I have no issues with people getting premiums or flawless what i have a issue with is how easy it would be to get. What now in the game takes any skill whatsoever to do? Nothing as far as i know of. Chain root or jedi ai and longest amount of time to kill anything like that is tops 5 minutes. I am not trying to secure my near perfect saber i am simply saying i don't want everyone to have a perfect saber who does not work for it.


To the child saying that i am a nub because i stated that fc means nothing. Well you see at the very most for a 4th gen lightsaber haveing all -0 fc crystals/pearls will add a whoping total of 36 force cost to any of your ls moves. It isn't a multiplier so from your 6500-7kish force will really notice that 36 force cost. Not like before when your heal self healed health action and mind and cost for every point it healed. Force cost actually got reduced across the boards its a action fight now. So before you come with your "nub" remarks maybe you should really know what your talking about.


Ok so whoever it was who tuned 150+ goods? whats your point you can easily farm 10-20 in a couple hours. To farm1 premium would take a hour or if you were lucky and on a rare occasion you might get 2 in a hour. And then the completly random tuneing on them which usually meant you premium you just busted your but for would turn out to be poo.





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Don_T_Shoot
Sat Sep 17, 2005 7:00 am
#16

As a former Swordsman/Doc I used to regularly assist Jedi in pearl hunting preCU, and the original poster was either very unlucky or exaggerating. Sure it took far longer to kill a krayt, possibly 5 or more times as long as it does now, but you don't need 100's of premiums or flawless to make a good saber. Heck 10 would probably do the job as even an average tune is far better than any "GOOD" pearl I've ever tuned. Now if you are obessed with a "perfect" saber, sure you'd need a lot of highend pearls and a lot of lucky tunes, but AT LEAST IT WAS POSSIBLE TO DO!

Now as far as entitlement, that stems from the fact that any non-jedi elite can go do a quest to kill 10 lvl 50 creatures and get a reward for a weapon with the same min damage as most CU sabers that have better SAC and, of course, no force cost. Which is just ridiculous, non-jedi should have to work a little harder for thier uber-guns, especially when CU jedi currently have no path to a decent weapon under any circumstances.








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Don_T_Shoot
Sat Sep 17, 2005 7:02 am
#17

And yes, force cost does matter, unless you never fight combat medics or longer than 10 minutes.








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STLpMpNu
Sat Sep 17, 2005 7:06 am
#18

combat medics are no diffrent than the old tk bh's wear them out of force for the win. Any jedi that isn't a mls with root who fights one deserves to die.



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MadisLylen
Sat Sep 17, 2005 7:51 am
#19

Every pearl I have in my saber is pre cu. I just didnt have very many of them since CU i have tuned well over 200 good pearls and none of them have came close to what my pre cu ones tuned to. So yea all I can do is keep killing krayts hoping to be the only guy in the game to get a good pearl to tune worth anything but somehow I think its doubtful.
Darka-ce
Sat Sep 17, 2005 7:53 am
#20

I for one do not think anything is OWED to me. I just wish that DEVs would stop d!cking around with my template.





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Tiberius-
Sat Sep 17, 2005 8:08 am
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KanyeW3ST wrote:

Pre-cu jedi didnt have our sabers handed to us we went out and killed hundreds of krayts , thousands even and this was before they were every 20m. And prem's never guaranteed a good tune, I had to tune approximately 60+ prem's to get the saber i have and it is far from a perfect saber. If I was a new jedi or soon to be new jedi I would be in the graveyard putting in my time killing krayts so i could have the best possible saber under current conditions. Bottom line is nobody owes you a good saber you have to earn it.





I have a pre-CU saber - thing is - new jedi CANT go out and earn it - cause the prems arent currently in the game. /sigh












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UTech
Sat Sep 17, 2005 8:33 am
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KanyeW3ST wrote:

Pre-cu jedi didnt have our sabers handed to us we went out and killed hundreds of krayts , thousands even and this was before they were every 20m. And prem's never guaranteed a good tune, I had to tune approximately 60+ prem's to get the saber i have and it is far from a perfect saber. If I was a new jedi or soon to be new jedi I would be in the graveyard putting in my time killing krayts so i could have the best possible saber under current conditions. Bottom line is nobody owes you a good saber you have to earn it.






Here we go again.. another Jedi with a perfect saber knowing he'd get his a$$ handed to him in the FRSif it weren't for his saber advantage. Fact is the "best possible saber under current conditions" is 200 points of damage less than most pre-CU sabers, and until prems/flawless drop again, it's going to stay that way. I can hunt krayts for 8 hours a day every day for a year, with an iron-clad SOE-signedgold-platedguarantee I willNOT get a premium or flawless.


"Before they were every 20m"? LOL. Whatever. Pre-cu you bugged the spawn so they kept spawning in the same spot, they didn't have to be every 20m. And they're only plentifulimmediately after server restart anyways.


Nobody has asked for a perfect saber to be handed to them. What is being asked for is the opportunity to do the very same thing you have done, go out and kill hundreds of krayts and get a few premium pearls.


NOBODY IS CONTESTING THAT YOU WORKED FOR YOUR SABER. What is wanted is the possibility of theopportunity to get the chance to get lucky to maybe get a pearl that'll tune past 70.


When Tiggs said that "every pearl has a chance for a perfect tune", I believe she was right. But that chance is a sliding scale dependant on quality. Yes, a "good" pearl has a chance of a perfect tune... I don't know the exact odds, but let's sayfor argument's sakethey're 1/10000. A "premium" pearl's chance for a perfect tune would be be far greater than that.




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reVolt0201
Sat Sep 17, 2005 8:51 am
#23



ffdemt wrote:
I agree that to get a good saber you should have to work for it. But as the kryats aren't spawning anywhere and those that do dont drop any pearls. What would be your suggestions to the new jedi that just wanna get something to keep em alive against a BH without going master powers?




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Krayts are not spawning on Bria thank to all those idiots that placed structures in their spawn areas. And it does not help that the only Krayts in-game are in the POI and they never drop anything! WE just want a chance on Bria to get a pearl!



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Ewockman
Sat Sep 17, 2005 9:15 am
#24






SoloBacca1 wrote:
and how you think is it possible to GET our sabers IF Premiums and Flawerless doesnt drop? If the CHANCE of getting Perfect Saber is about 0%... No-one Have yet Tuned a ''Good'' Pearl Perfect yet, and I know alot of people that really tuned MANY in the real meaning of the word!





Post-CU saber. 1 Premium Pearl I had been saving tuned perfect stats. Rest are Qaulity Crystals. Hovering around 700 damage...It's not impossible just get up and kill something why don't you. I gaurantee you in the time it takes all of you to come here and cry I can get 5 Qaulity Crystals and get a pretty good tune out of it.



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Darkvenegence
Sat Sep 17, 2005 9:18 am
#25

what the hell are you talkin about?!?!..EVERY jedi is entitled to a good saber,i dont care how many krayts we killed to get our sabers good the point is we had premiums and flawless dropping from krayts which meant when we DID get a pearl there was a good chance we were gonna get a good tune,the new jedi have to make do with "good" pearls which suck,plain and simple,for you to say we should have something other jedi havent shows nothing but selfishness and the utmost arrogance


sorry for the flame but jedi wanting to screw over other jedi makes my blood boil





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Exposis
Sat Sep 17, 2005 9:34 am
#26






Gohma_Manovich wrote:





KanyeW3ST wrote:

Pre-cu jedi didnt have our sabers handed to us we went out and killed hundreds of krayts , thousands even and this was before they were every 20m. And prem's never guaranteed a good tune, I had to tune approximately 60+ prem's to get the saber i have and it is far from a perfect saber. If I was a new jedi or soon to be new jedi I would be in the graveyard putting in my time killing krayts so i could have the best possible saber under current conditions. Bottom line is nobody owes you a good saber you have to earn it.





yep this is true, unfortunatly for those like me who got stuck in pre-cu grinding so they wouldnt have to grind before CU hit we couldnt get any decent pearls (apart from one i got which tuned 120/120 -0.28 -4FC) but what msot people feel is they dont have a saber owed to them they jsut deserve a chance to have premium's dropping so that everyone is on an equal level





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