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Thread: Why does everyone think a good saber is owed to them?
STLpMpNu wrote:
vaeka wrote:
STL your statement on Krayts is not fully true.....ask your guild mate FastEddie he is in my opinion the greatest krayt hunter on SS. Yes it was not, run out to the grave yard and you find a krayt like it is now, but if you knew what to do with in 30-45 mins you had a krayt and it spawned several times with a chance of dropping a premium pearl.
Right now there is no chance of getting a premium pearl....allI ask for is a chance to get one I don't care ifI have to spend hours a day to get one, but at least give me the chance.I have tuned well over 1500 combinations of post CUcrystals, and pearls ranging from fair to quality and have not even come close to a good stat pearl say 115 -8.....we are talking like 89 -2 or 25 -5.
My point I would like the same opportunity you had to get premium pearls under the same difficulties you had. I think that is a fair request.
Vaeka
Yes i was knee deep with him the majority of the times he was out there. Sure there was a chance a small chance but it was still there you had to tack on everyone else in the group who wanted one as well. Wasn't easy to do either took alot of effort. I have no issues with people getting premiums or flawless what i have a issue with is how easy it would be to get. ( I do agree with you on this point i think you hit it and thats what concerns the devs more the economy and balance of the game) What now in the game takes any skill whatsoever to do? Nothing as far as i know of. Chain root or jedi ai and longest amount of time to kill anything like that is tops 5 minutes. I am not trying to secure my near perfect saber i am simply saying i don't want everyone to have a perfect saber who does not work for it.
To the child saying that i am a nub because i stated that fc means nothing. Well you see at the very most for a 4th gen lightsaber haveing all -0 fc crystals/pearls will add a whoping total of 36 force cost to any of your ls moves. It isn't a multiplier so from your 6500-7kish force will really notice that 36 force cost. Not like before when your heal self healed health action and mind and cost for every point it healed. Force cost actually got reduced across the boards its a action fight now. So before you come with your "nub" remarks maybe you should really know what your talking about.
Ok so whoever it was who tuned 150+ goods? whats your point you can easily farm 10-20 in a couple hours (sorry dont know what its like on your server, but on eclipse no chance of that with the spawn so bugged! and the loot so poor). To farm1 premium would take a hour or if you were lucky and on a rare occasion you might get 2 in a hour. And then the completly random tuning on them which usually meant you premium you just busted your but for would turn out to be poo. (but you would have a much better chance which is what people are complaining about - ie. NONE BASICALLY)
I used to tank with my alt sword/doc (god i miss that) while a mate ripped that 450k HAM with saber through. Light Saber dmg was basically what 20 x better that what everyone else had 95% resist! appart from those CM/Comandos. I think you have forgotten the pleasures of LS dmg, i know i haven't 
I got a good saber but stoppig new jedi having what everyone else has is just BS! Jedi should support each other!
Message Edited by Exposis on 09-17-2005 05:52 PM
Ewockman wrote:
SoloBacca1 wrote:
and how you think is it possible to GET our sabers IF Premiums and Flawerless doesnt drop? If the CHANCE of getting Perfect Saber is about 0%... No-one Have yet Tuned a ''Good'' Pearl Perfect yet, and I know alot of people that really tuned MANY in the real meaning of the word!
Post-CU saber. 1 Premium Pearl I had been saving tuned perfect stats. Rest are Qaulity Crystals. Hovering around 700 damage...It's not impossible just get up and kill something why don't you. I gaurantee you in the time it takes all of you to come here and cry I can get 5 Qaulity Crystals and get a pretty good tune out of it.
LOL, man your lucky, cuz ive been working on my saber for almost 2 months, maybe longer, if i put 4 of my best damage crystals i could maybe get 650, but im talking id have like 30 fc, and no speed. I have 4 premium crystals from djm's before they nerfed the drops, my saber is only 610 damage, 98 sac, 13 fc and 474 dps, that is really good compared to the even newer jedi, running around 560 damage and 300 dps. I have seen guys with 700 +dps, they own the heck out of me, im thinking all these guys crying for post-cu sabers to not be as good are just worried and want a garuntee that they will be in the top of the frs, does that make them feel good that one of the few reasons they when is cuz they have an advantage with their sabers, you would think they would want other jedi to be as good, to know they won fair and square.
KanyeW3ST wrote:
Pre-cu jedi didnt have our sabers handed to us we went out and killed hundreds of krayts , thousands even and this was before they were every 20m. And prem's never guaranteed a good tune, I had to tune approximately 60+ prem's to get the saber i have and it is far from a perfect saber. If I was a new jedi or soon to be new jedi I would be in the graveyard putting in my time killing krayts so i could have the best possible saber under current conditions. Bottom line is nobody owes you a good saber you have to earn it.
I have pre cu pearls...I put in my time....do you understand that those who don't will have to tune 600+ pearls to get "decent" tunes....not anywhere near perfect...just decent. by your logic...you didn't earn your saber.
I am a pre CU jedi also. They difference is you said (tune 60+ premium pearls). Seeing as how we don't have premium pearls to tune that drop anymore that really isn't a valid arguement. Yes, I put my time in hunting krayts solo and my tune count since the CU has hit 318 tunes with just now getting 93/93 -5, 92/92 -6, 92/92 -2, 91/91 -2 for my pvp saber. I think I have put my time in tuning and still have just a above average saber to pvp with. The speed modifiers are low on them so I have a slow saber which does't help.
WIth the 318 tunes as of last nite, tuning 6 pearls and 7 crystals I have also spent 50 mil since the cu and still no luck.
Exposis wrote:
I used to tank with my alt sword/doc (god i miss that) while a mate ripped that 450k HAM with saber through. Light Saber dmg was basically what 20 x better that what everyone else had 95% resist! appart from those CM/Comandos. I think you have forgotten the pleasures of LS dmg, i know i haven't
I got a good saber but stoppig new jedi having what everyone else has is just BS! Jedi should support each other!
Message Edited by Exposis on 09-17-2005 05:52 PM
What's the point of this thread? besides the fact that there is NO point to it?
Give it a rest, nobody but pre-cu jedi care about pre-cu jedi. hehe.
Nogginz wrote:
I do not believe that an Uber saber is owed to me, but I would however like the same chance as every other Jedi to get one. You heard it straight from the horses mouth that premiums DO NOT drop anymore. I have tuned over 54 "Good" pearls looted from top end Krayts and not got one decent tune! Do you seriously believe any of that rubbish about "Goods" having at least a small chance of getting a decent tune? Cmon, smell the Bullsh$£t that they have been telling us. THis bug has been around for months and they have done nothing at all about it. There are now over 1220 posts under Tiggs' thread regarding the pearl drop, show me one where someone has got an Uber tune from a post-CU pearl. I think out of 1220 peopls who have tuned loads of them, at least one person would have got something by now. I am in no way calling nerf or moaning at pre-CU Jedi. If anything I would congratulate them as they are the last of the real Jedi with the weapons they wield. I would like to congratulate all pre-CU Jedi on receiving their long term service veteran reward from SOE in giving them a chance to get Uber tunes from Pearls
I am a pre-CU Jedi and I concur. The post CU Jedi got a serious shaft here. Any one who can not see that Post CU jedi are being ripped off here is blind to that fact.
KanyeW3ST wrote:
Pre-cu jedi didnt have our sabers handed to us we went out and killed hundreds of krayts , thousands even and this was before they were every 20m. And prem's never guaranteed a good tune, I had to tune approximately 60+ prem's to get the saber i have and it is far from a perfect saber. If I was a new jedi or soon to be new jedi I would be in the graveyard putting in my time killing krayts so i could have the best possible saber under current conditions. Bottom line is nobody owes you a good saber you have to earn it.
Message Edited by _Saevio_ on 09-17-2005 08:19 PM
KanyeW3ST wrote:Pre-cu jedi didnt have our sabers handed to us we went out and killed hundreds of krayts , thousands even and this was before they were every 20m. And prem's never guaranteed a good tune, I had to tune approximately 60+ prem's to get the saber i have and it is far from a perfect saber. If I was a new jedi or soon to be new jedi I would be in the graveyard putting in my time killing krayts so i could have the best possible saber under current conditions. Bottom line is nobody owes you a good saber you have to earn it.
Every Jedi has a right to a GREAT saber, not a good one as you have posted which some do not even have that. Other combat professions aren’t limited to looting components to have a decent weapon as Jedi solely rely on to make a decent saber (resource quality helps but isn’t the main ingredient). Just doing quest on Kashyyyk will get you weapons that are GREAT. Imagine this, all the other combat professions could only use cdef's that MWS couldn't make anything better than that regardless of the weapon, no matter how many things they looted, etc. to attempt to make a better weapon. The majority of Jedi sabers are crap - isn’t that simple enough for you? To top things off, as posted so many times before your post, WE can't slice our sabers like other weapons can be sliced. For the simple fact we grinded Jedi doesn't grant us special treatment, it grants us the right as any other Mastered Combat profession out there to have a GREAT weapon that we can rely on to take care of business either with PVE or PVP. Too bad we can't just go to some vendor and BUY a SABER that is damage capped and SAC capped like any one else can with any other type of weapon out there and get our force armor or innate armor sliced and so forth.
KanyeW3ST wrote:
Pre-cu jedi didnt have our sabers handed to us we went out and killed hundreds of krayts , thousands even and this was before they were every 20m. And prem's never guaranteed a good tune, I had to tune approximately 60+ prem's to get the saber i have and it is far from a perfect saber. If I was a new jedi or soon to be new jedi I would be in the graveyard putting in my time killing krayts so i could have the best possible saber under current conditions. Bottom line is nobody owes you a good saber you have to earn it.
It the fact that it our only weapon and cost far more to get than any other weapon.
Nogginz wrote:
I do not believe that an Uber saber is owed to me, but I would however like the same chance as every other Jedi to get one. You heard it straight from the horses mouth that premiums DO NOT drop anymore. I have tuned over 54 "Good" pearls looted from top end Krayts and not got one decent tune! Do you seriously believe any of that rubbish about "Goods" having at least a small chance of getting a decent tune? Cmon, smell the Bullsh$£t that they have been telling us. THis bug has been around for months and they have done nothing at all about it. There are now over 1220 posts under Tiggs' thread regarding the pearl drop, show me one where someone has got an Uber tune from a post-CU pearl. I think out of 1220 peopls who have tuned loads of them, at least one person would have got something by now. I am in no way calling nerf or moaning at pre-CU Jedi. If anything I would congratulate them as they are the last of the real Jedi with the weapons they wield. I would like to congratulate all pre-CU Jedi on receiving their long term service veteran reward from SOE in giving them a chance to get Uber tunes from Pearls
I tuned three orfourtimes that in premies and flawlesses and still dont have a perfect saber (I'm a preCU Jedi). How about we go back to when krayts didnt spawn every 15 meters and you could spend ALL day looking for them - hoping they would spawn? I can kill 50 krayts now in the same time it used to take to find ONE.
THE QUALITY OF THE PEARL OR CRYSTAL HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH THE RESULT OF THE TUNE.
IT IS ALL RANDOM.